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A stunning fact about the Giants 2019 coaching staff

YANKEE28 : 2/16/2020 12:04 pm
Its now mid February and the Combine starts next week. Certainly 99.9% of NFL and college football coaching staffs are now set for the 2020 season.

Thought it might me a good idea to check in on what some of last year's Giants coaches are currently doing, now that coaches hiring season is pretty much over:

DC- James Bettcher- currently unemployed
OL- Hal Hunter- currently unemployed
RB- Craig Johnson- currently unemployed
DL- Gary Emanual- currently unemployed
LB- Bill McGovern- currently unemployed
DB- Everett Withers- currently unemployed
Asst DB-Henry Baker- currently unemployed

Not sure if any of these guys are handy, but I am hearing that coach Freddie Kitchens needs a swing set built.
I humbly request you also  
Giantsfan79 : 2/16/2020 12:25 pm : link
check into how many camp cuts from last year were signed by other teams. Don't worry it won't take you very long.
RE: I humbly request you also  
k2tampa : 2/16/2020 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14812096 Giantsfan79 said:
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check into how many camp cuts from last year were signed by other teams. Don't worry it won't take you very long.

How many of them are still being paid by the Giants?
Let NFL coaches  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/16/2020 1:31 pm : link
Donít want to stay unemployed too long even if they are still being paid.

McAdoo sat out like an idiot the last two years. IMO. lucky to get a QB coaching job. He was a career TE coach w a couple of years as a QB coach. Stretch hire as a OC. Major stretch hire as a HC then sits out two years.

Most of these guys are going to have to take a step back. After the last two years they need too. Donít wish anyone to lose their job but boy that staff was just horrible

RE: Let NFL coaches  
eric2425ny : 2/16/2020 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14812117 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Donít want to stay unemployed too long even if they are still being paid.

McAdoo sat out like an idiot the last two years. IMO. lucky to get a QB coaching job. He was a career TE coach w a couple of years as a QB coach. Stretch hire as a OC. Major stretch hire as a HC then sits out two years.

Most of these guys are going to have to take a step back. After the last two years they need too. Donít wish anyone to lose their job but boy that staff was just horrible


Bettcher was horrendous. If it was all young guys I could have maybe given him the benefit of the doubt. But they brought in at least 5 of his former Cardinal players who knew his system and they still sucked.
I think Hal Hunter is done as  
Dave on the UWS : 2/16/2020 2:44 pm : link
an NFL coach. He was out of football in 2017 and Shurmur thought it was a good idea to bring him in as OL coach. After two dismal years, can't see anyone hiring him.
It was sort of a sad-sack staff, wasn't it?  
81_Great_Dane : 2/16/2020 3:29 pm : link
I think Shurmur is a good offensive mind but he sure seemed to be in over his head when it came to putting a staff together and holding them accountable for their own performance and the performance of their units.

Parcells would tell his staff "You SOBs aren't going to get me fired." Shurmur probably would have been fired anyway, but his staff sure greased the skids.
RE: Let NFL coaches  
FStubbs : 2/16/2020 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14812117 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Donít want to stay unemployed too long even if they are still being paid.

McAdoo sat out like an idiot the last two years. IMO. lucky to get a QB coaching job. He was a career TE coach w a couple of years as a QB coach. Stretch hire as a OC. Major stretch hire as a HC then sits out two years.

Most of these guys are going to have to take a step back. After the last two years they need too. Donít wish anyone to lose their job but boy that staff was just horrible


I don't think anyone wanted him as an OC so this is about what he could get at this point.
RE: I think Hal Hunter is done as  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 2/16/2020 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14812142 Dave on the UWS said:
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an NFL coach. He was out of football in 2017 and Shurmur thought it was a good idea to bring him in as OL coach. After two dismal years, can't see anyone hiring him.

He crippled Andrew Luck.
RE: It was sort of a sad-sack staff, wasn't it?  
ColHowPepper : 2/16/2020 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14812164 81_Great_Dane said:
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I think Shurmur is a good offensive mind but he sure seemed to be in over his head when it came to putting a staff together and holding them accountable for their own performance and the performance of their units.
Yes it was, and it seems like a tell that Mara and DG thought more highly of PS than many assistants and coordinators did.
RE: Let NFL coaches  
Leg of Theismann : 2/16/2020 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14812117 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Donít want to stay unemployed too long even if they are still being paid.

McAdoo sat out like an idiot the last two years. IMO. lucky to get a QB coaching job. He was a career TE coach w a couple of years as a QB coach. Stretch hire as a OC. Major stretch hire as a HC then sits out two years.

Most of these guys are going to have to take a step back. After the last two years they need too. Donít wish anyone to lose their job but boy that staff was just horrible


I wouldn't call McAdoo an idiot for that necessarily. He wasn't getting any OC offers, and I have to imagine that NYG HC money still rolling in was worth sitting out. Probably won't be an NFL HC ever again, that was once-in-a-lifetime $ he would have just forfeited. All just to be a QB coach somewhere just to stay relevant? I'm sure he weighed his options the last couple years and considered the $ he would have lost. Meanwhile he still made it back in the league as a QB coach which is probably what he would have been anyway if he had come back in 2018 or 2019.

So, in hindsight, what do you see that this "idiot" could have done differently that would have benefited him more than the decisions he ended up making?
Jerry Reese  
greek13 : 2/17/2020 7:26 am : link
They must be knocking down his door based on his success here ! Oh wait....neither are true
schumer... "Low energy guy"  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/17/2020 11:14 am : link
to quote a famous American
As If We Didn't Know  
Percy : 2/17/2020 5:48 pm : link
Total duds.
On the flip side Bret Bilema or however you spell his name,  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/17/2020 6:00 pm : link
the guy who allegedly can't keep his hands off sorority gals, can't stay an NFL coach long enough, as is interviewing for every college HC job he can.

O guess he's a really good coach, even if not so much a good person?
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