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NFT: The NY Knicks and...Villanova Head Coach Jay Wright?

Anakim : 2/17/2020 9:04 am
There is a strong possibility that Jay Wright in New York could happen, one league source said.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/17/2020 9:20 am : link
He's been linked to 76ers if/when they cut Brown loose.
I wouldn't have a problem with that at all  
Greg from LI : 2/17/2020 9:20 am : link
Don't know why he'd want the job, but that's a different discussion.
I doubt this happens  
BigBlueShock : 2/17/2020 9:21 am : link
If Wright were to even slightly open up the possibility of going to the NBA, I think the Sixers would fire Brett Brown on the spot. Hell likely be fired anyways. I would have to believe the Sixers would have a much better chance at Wright. Much better roster and hes already in Philly
Shit..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2020 9:22 am : link
there goes the perception that Bucknellians are smart!!
As a Nova guy, I hope not.  
The_Boss : 2/17/2020 9:30 am : link
Why would you give up a top 10 ncaa job for an opportunity to work at the cesspool better known as Dolans MSG? With continued growth, he could have another final four team in 2021. It sure beats losing over 50 games a year for the foreseeable future.
RE: As a Nova guy, I hope not.  
djm : 2/17/2020 9:34 am : link
In comment 14812402 The_Boss said:
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Why would you give up a top 10 ncaa job for an opportunity to work at the cesspool better known as Dolans MSG? With continued growth, he could have another final four team in 2021. It sure beats losing over 50 games a year for the foreseeable future.


Because hes confident in his abilities and wants to fix one of the most powerful franchises in pro sports ? Nah couldnt be...

These guys want it. They arent afraid of a challenge, unlike fans who are jaded and cynical.
RE: RE: As a Nova guy, I hope not.  
The_Boss : 2/17/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14812404 djm said:
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Why would you give up a top 10 ncaa job for an opportunity to work at the cesspool better known as Dolans MSG? With continued growth, he could have another final four team in 2021. It sure beats losing over 50 games a year for the foreseeable future.



Because hes confident in his abilities and wants to fix one of the most powerful franchises in pro sports ? Nah couldnt be...

These guys want it. They arent afraid of a challenge, unlike fans who are jaded and cynical.


Jay is too smart to go work for Dolan. I doubt this even has any legs.
RE: As a Nova guy, I hope not.  
Bernie : 2/17/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14812402 The_Boss said:
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Why would you give up a top 10 ncaa job for an opportunity to work at the cesspool better known as Dolans MSG? With continued growth, he could have another final four team in 2021. It sure beats losing over 50 games a year for the foreseeable future.


This 1000%. Stay at Nova Jay. But sadly, it's only a matter of time before he goes to the NBA. So if he does, might as well be the Knicks.

Get it done, Leon.  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 9:42 am : link
Enough already with Thibs, JVG and Jackson. The 1990s are long gone.
Dolan: Jay, I am going to write a number on a piece of paper  
GiantsUA : 2/17/2020 9:47 am : link
Jay: When can I start?
Who said he's afraid of a challenge?  
Greg from LI : 2/17/2020 10:02 am : link
He's wise enough to never work for the most worthless, destructive owner in professional sports.
Consider the source. Adam Zagoria has no clue.  
Crispino : 2/17/2020 10:18 am : link
UCLA offered to double Jays salary and he passed.
When asked why, he said You dont mess with happy. Hes from the Villanova area, his wife is an alumna, has unlimited security, and plenty of money.

Never say never, but I dont see this happening. Its click bait.
In other Knicks rumblings, Berman says..  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 10:22 am : link
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According to an NBA source, the Knicks scouting staff has been instructed the top priority is a scoring point guard on whom to use their lottery pick.

The second priority, likely for the Clippers pick, is a shooting guard who has 3-point range something rookie RJ Barrett has not shown.

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Jay has won twice in Nova..  
Sean : 2/17/2020 10:23 am : link
If he does have the itch for the NBA (Im not so sure he does), this could be the time to make the jump.
RE: In other Knicks rumblings, Berman says..  
Jon in NYC : 2/17/2020 10:35 am : link
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According to an NBA source, the Knicks scouting staff has been instructed the top priority is a scoring point guard on whom to use their lottery pick.

The second priority, likely for the Clippers pick, is a shooting guard who has 3-point range something rookie RJ Barrett has not shown.

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Makes sense. RJ is a 3. He's always been a 3, always will be a 3. On that note, Knox is a 4.
RE: In other Knicks rumblings, Berman says..  
Anakim : 2/17/2020 10:39 am : link
In comment 14812436 bceagle05 said:
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According to an NBA source, the Knicks scouting staff has been instructed the top priority is a scoring point guard on whom to use their lottery pick.

The second priority, likely for the Clippers pick, is a shooting guard who has 3-point range something rookie RJ Barrett has not shown.

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Well, Lamelo Ball isnt really known as a scorer so if thats the criteria, we may not be interested.


And I guess for the other pick, maybe Aaron Nesmith or the Florida State kid?
Yeah, Berman mentioned LaMelo  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 11:08 am : link
but you're right, he's not a scorer - he does have the CAA connection though. I personally would like the pick, but I know the Ball family is polarizing.

Nesmith would be nice - he reminds me of Kris Middleton. Maybe they can use that Charlotte second rounder to jump up a few spots for him if need be.
So need as opposed to talent.  
yatqb : 2/17/2020 11:10 am : link
Great.
RE: So need as opposed to talent.  
Sean : 2/17/2020 11:13 am : link
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Great.


Yup. Not good.
RE: So need as opposed to talent.  
Anakim : 2/17/2020 11:16 am : link
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Great.


Yep. Never a winning formula.
Frank, DSJ and Payton were drafted 8th, 9th and 10th, respectively.  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 11:31 am : link
So yeah, you can't just pick point guards for the hell of it. Tough to compete in the NBA without a good point guard though - NBA teams chase them the way NFL teams chase quarterbacks.
Getting back to Jay Wright,  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 11:36 am : link
I wonder what kind of say in personnel he would demand? Can't imagine he'd sign up for the typical structure and have to answer to Rose and a GM, plus Dolan of course.
So this goes back about 5/6 years  
bhill410 : 2/17/2020 12:42 pm : link
But Jay was all but signed to be Boston College head coach. Him and his wife met with BC president and board and numbers were agreed upon. After consideration wife determined that she did not want to move (has very strong ties to philly and nova) and taht was that. Now NYC is way different distance wise and NBA is more compelling that BC (to say least). But there was a strong desire not to relocate at that point. Forget how old their kids are now so that could impact things.
SF and Shock are right...  
Chris in Philly : 2/17/2020 12:51 pm : link
The Sixers are his dream job and they may just have an opening coming up.
Lots of opportunities to add shooting this summer.  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 2:33 pm : link
Draft: Nesmith, Ramsey (LAC pick, perhaps a slight trade up)
Trade: Hield and Markkanen (both unhappy w/current teams)
FA: Gallo, Bertans, Morris, Bogdanovic, Joe Harris, Marcus Morris, etc.

I wouldn't mind one from each group.
RE: RE: As a �Nova guy, I hope not.  
Ron Johnson : 2/17/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14812404 djm said:
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Why would you give up a top 10 ncaa job for an opportunity to work at the cesspool better known as Dolan�s MSG? With continued growth, he could have another final four team in 2021. It sure beats losing over 50 games a year for the foreseeable future.



Because he�s confident in his abilities and wants to fix one of the most powerful franchises in pro sports ? Nah couldn�t be...

These guys want it. They aren�t afraid of a challenge, unlike fans who are jaded and cynical.


that and the giant paycheck that comes with it.
RE: I wouldn't have a problem with that at all  
since1925 : 2/17/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14812395 Greg from LI said:
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Don't know why he'd want the job, but that's a different discussion.


Money? Coaching at the highest level? Even nicer suits?
College bball writer from The Athletic...  
bceagle05 : 2/17/2020 4:10 pm : link
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Dana O'Neil
@DanaONeilWriter

Let's quash this stuff before it gets started: source told me Jay Wright is not going anywhere. Not to the Knicks. Not to the Sixers. Not to Oz. His house is for sale. He's not.
Dana O’Neill is very much a Villanova insider and...  
Crispino : 2/17/2020 6:19 pm : link
very close to Jay Wright. He’s not going anywhere.
Wright  
Bigbluebrethren : 2/18/2020 12:30 am : link
I think he would be an excellent hire
RE: Dana O’Neill is very much a Villanova insider and...  
FearTheHippo : 2/18/2020 7:57 am : link
In comment 14812791 Crispino said:
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very close to Jay Wright. He’s not going anywhere.


This is how the game is played. His agent will float his name and take calls, while he will insist he loves where he is at and isn't going anywhere. If he gets an offer he can't refuse, he won't refuse it. Otherwise he will stay and insist he never seriously considered leaving.
While the scouts should keep their eyes out  
Jan in DC : 2/18/2020 8:55 am : link
for a scoring PG and a good shooting SG, they should also keep their eyes open for any good player at any position that can play in the NBA. This team lacks so much talent that they shouldn't feel the need to push.
Another big name floated to come and save the Knicks  
Heisenberg : 2/18/2020 8:58 am : link
If Rose can actually land a really good coach like Wright, that would be the first of these names to actually come to the Knicks. I'll believe it when I see it.
RE: So this goes back about 5/6 years  
haper : 2/18/2020 10:56 am : link
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Forget how old their kids are now so that could impact things.

They are adults and from what I understand no longer live at home. To add fuel to the rumor Jay and his wife will be putting their house up for sale bc they would like to downsize now that the kids are 'no longer around'. Another thing is Villanova recently finished a big renovation of their on-campus arena (it's still no comparison to the vast majority of D1 schools let alone one with 3 National championships but that's a different story) but there were rumors that the renovations were the 'last thing on Jay's list to do at 'nova'.

I'm a 'nova guy (class of '86 and daughter class of 2013) and it's not the first time Jay's name has been attached to an NBA job. But I just don't see it happening, he's almost 60 and can do whatever he wants at 'nova and has the accolades of the administration and alumni. Maybe he has the ego to 'prove something in the NBA' but imo, not to the extent to deal w players that outearn him, overbearing press, nosy owners and being on the road (college games are mostly twice a week, and when playing away they fly out the day before and return immediately after the game). And he makes almost $4M and Fisdale's salary was $5.5M; I understand $1.5M is a lot of money but Jay has all the money he and his family needs.
RE: RE: Dana O’Neill is very much a Villanova insider and...  
Crispino : 2/18/2020 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14812965 FearTheHippo said:
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very close to Jay Wright. He’s not going anywhere.

You must have missed the part where I told you he’s been through this before. UCLA offered to double his $5 million per year salary. He’s been courted for a half dozen other high profile college jobs. He likes where he is. I believe him when he repeats his oft repeated mantra “You don’t mess with happy.”


This is how the game is played. His agent will float his name and take calls, while he will insist he loves where he is at and isn't going anywhere. If he gets an offer he can't refuse, he won't refuse it. Otherwise he will stay and insist he never seriously considered leaving.
I can believe Wright would take an NBA job  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 3:05 pm : link
I just find it hard to believe it would be the Knicks. He will receive much better opportunities if he so desires.
Thibs "can taste it," according to Berman  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2020 3:41 pm : link
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The much better bet is Thibodeau, who has spent unemployment traveling to different basketball outposts, according to sources. In fact, two sources said Thibodeau doesn’t currently have a permanent residence as he awaits his next job.

When not traveling, the unmarried Thibodeau made his home base at his brother’s place in New England.

“He really wants the Knick job, he can taste it and he may even be in the lead,” a Thibodeau confidant said.

The Post reported last week Thibodeau and Jeff Van Gundy will be on Rose’s short list.

”He’s been visiting teams, but primarily hanging out in LA near Doc (Rivers) and Tyronn (Lue),” the source said.

Thibodeau also showed up at Golden State headquarters to give coach Steve Kerr advice on newcomer Andrew Wiggins, whom he coached in Minnesota. Thibodeau was Rivers’ top defensive assistant in Boston. The former Knicks assistant also has past ties with Rose at Creative Artists Agency.

“Rose has always been known as much more ethical than most agents, and if he can deliver players and let a strong coach coach, this could work out,” the Thibodeau confidant said. “It’s never a sure thing because of ownership, but Thibs knows he can work with Rose and also knows he’d be able to bring in his people as well.”

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RE: RE: In other Knicks rumblings, Berman says..  
djm : 2/18/2020 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14812450 Jon in NYC said:
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According to an NBA source, the Knicks scouting staff has been instructed the top priority is a scoring point guard on whom to use their lottery pick.

The second priority, likely for the Clippers� pick, is a shooting guard who has 3-point range � something rookie RJ Barrett has not shown.

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Makes sense. RJ is a 3. He's always been a 3, always will be a 3. On that note, Knox is a 4.


The Knicks top priority in any draft should be to find the best player possible no matter what position he plays. They should zero in on position through FA. But this is the Knicks and they are fucking morons.
Kyrie out with shoulder again and once again there is prospect  
shyster : 2/19/2020 12:12 am : link
he may miss the rest of the season.

And there's no guarantee that shoulder surgery will have him 100% for 2020-21. Sometimes arthroscopic surgery works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes taking out the bone spur makes the shoulder less functional.

That's why Dellin Betances has still never had surgery on his bone spur, even though it was identified in 2006 and cost him the 2019 season.

I would not trade places with the Nets.



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Irving injured...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/19/2020 8:57 am : link
Color me shocked.
i have zero interest in Thibs...  
Italianju : 2/19/2020 8:59 am : link
he ran his bulls teams into the ground and lasted what like 2+ seasons in MIN and one ok year. Plus his coaching style is not a fit for todays NBA. Hopefully Rose is smart enough to realize that. Berman is just going to keep listing names that the avg fan might have heard of whether the knicks are actually interested in them or not.
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