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| Ian Rapoport @RapSheet #Giants OLBs coach and senior defensive assistant Bret Bielema is interviewing for the head coaching job at the University of Colorado, sources say. The former Wisconsin and Arkansas coach could be back in college. 12:13pm · 17 Feb 2020 |
Bring AP back into the org, or maybe Pepper Johnson can rehab himself with our LB corp.
It isn't like he's actively jumping ship to be a ball boy or something.
Put yourself in his position. You've taken a job as a position coach and a major college program wants you to lead it. You don't listen because you just took a minor-level position last month??
What;s the distraction?
"Oh my God, we might lose a position coach!! How will we carry on???""
Larry
@art_stapleton
Pepper Johnson will be brought up as a possible replacement if Bielema were to leave, but this also could be the scenario that brings Amos Jones to East Rutherford, with Bruce Arians suggesting he could be interviewing with NYG last week.
Jones coached OLB at Miss State.
12:28pm · 17 Feb 2020
It isn't like he's actively jumping ship to be a ball boy or something.
Put yourself in his position. You've taken a job as a position coach and a major college program wants you to lead it. You don't listen because you just took a minor-level position last month??
This
If your employer, who just hired you, was aware that every other week you were interviewing elsewhere they would just let you go and hire someone who actually wanted the job.
This guy clearly doesn’t want the gig so just move onto someone who is serious about it.
good luck, everyone should look out for their own self interests. The Giants won't.
If you are brought in as a low level analyst and somebody wants to interview you to be CEO, you really think your current job is going to consider you a "distraction" or want you to stick to some Omerta that keeps you crunching numbers?
In football circles, this kind of thing happens all the time, especially among lower level coaches and the team that people currently work for are usually happy to see you get the promotion.
I agree with you and Fats. If I were in a position to have a higher profiled position and be paid more, I would do it in a heartbeat. What’s wrong with trying to better yourself? It sounds ridiculous that the posters on this board want to crucify him for wanting to better his career.
It isn't like he's actively jumping ship to be a ball boy or something.
Put yourself in his position. You've taken a job as a position coach and a major college program wants you to lead it. You don't listen because you just took a minor-level position last month??
No I wouldn’t interview a month after taking a job. If the job was that much below my level I wouldn’t accept it. Unless I’m the case of hardship, which i doubt is the case here.
LOL you do understand the difference between agenda and ambition right?
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like in your own personal life if the opportunity for a better job came along like NONE of you would look into it.. just ridiculous...
I agree with you and Fats. If I were in a position to have a higher profiled position and be paid more, I would do it in a heartbeat. What’s wrong with trying to better yourself? It sounds ridiculous that the posters on this board want to crucify him for wanting to better his career.
That's not the point though. This guy can do whatever he wants. The point is: do the Giants, as his employer, want a guy who is constantly interviewing for other jobs.
Why? Nobody is saying this guy can't look for another job. People are just questioning whether the Giants should keep a guy who seems to be trying really hard to get another job.
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Pepper Johnson will be brought up as a possible replacement if Bielema were to leave, but this also could be the scenario that brings Amos Jones to East Rutherford, with Bruce Arians suggesting he could be interviewing with NYG last week.
Jones coached OLB at Miss State.
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if you are a position coach with an NFL team - why would you NOT look for a HC opportunity if it is presented to you?
It isn't like he's actively jumping ship to be a ball boy or something.
Put yourself in his position. You've taken a job as a position coach and a major college program wants you to lead it. You don't listen because you just took a minor-level position last month??
No I wouldn’t interview a month after taking a job. If the job was that much below my level I wouldn’t accept it. Unless I’m the case of hardship, which i doubt is the case here.
So......what you were saying is that he should be enslaved to the Giants organization at a lower level position and not give himself an opportunity to improve upon his career. Personally, I think that’s ridiculous. If an organization at the collegiate level has interest in you as a head coach, why would you not consider it? Why take less? I don’t get it. The Giants can move on without him. It’s not like he’s the HC , DC or OC on the Giants staff.
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That OLB coaching stint for Amos Jones at Mississippi State came in 2006 ... when Joe Judge was a grad assistant there.
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guys are fucking ridiculous.
Why? Nobody is saying this guy can't look for another job. People are just questioning whether the Giants should keep a guy who seems to be trying really hard to get another job.
Have you asked the Giants organization if this is a huge deal? Most classy organizations will look at this and say go ahead and approve upon your career. I do think that doing this in the middle of football season changes the situation. They haven’t really even started.
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this will be a big distraction as long as he's here.
What;s the distraction?
"Oh my God, we might lose a position coach!! How will we carry on???""
everytime a job opens reporters will ask questions. If Bielema does well there will be even more questions if he's looking to leave. If he does poorly they can ask if he's worried he might not get a job. Plus the reporters will ask the other coaches and players.
This is really being blown out of proportion. Likely because of a lack of perspective.
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guys are fucking ridiculous.
Why? Nobody is saying this guy can't look for another job. People are just questioning whether the Giants should keep a guy who seems to be trying really hard to get another job.
My guess is Colorado approached him and his agent. It's a big job in a power conference.
And of course BB took the request, asked Judge if he was cool with it, Judge of course said yes, and now BB is going to be in the mix for a huge HC opportunity.
To me, as long as BB is keeping Jints Central informed, he should definitely consider these big opportunities and Jints Central should support him.
Those who are offended would jump at the same thing. If you say otherwise, you are being a phony...
Replying to @JonMorales1980 @art_stapleton
Part of it may depend on what Bielema told Judge about his own goals in the last year and when interviewing. If he committed to coaching at least this year or said he was not interested in going back to the college HC grind, that would be reason to ding him.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton
Exactly right. We don’t know what their understanding was. Bielema made no secret of his desire to be a HC in college again and did so publicly. What he and Judge agreed upon matters. Perception doesn’t necessarily match reality, so we’ll see.
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That OLB coaching stint for Amos Jones at Mississippi State came in 2006 ... when Joe Judge was a grad assistant there.
They could also conceivably have Kevin Sherrer coach the OLBs (he coached the OLBs at Georgia when Lorenzo Carter was there) and hire an ILB coach or have Sherrer coach both ILBs and OLBs.
*Bielema
*Garrett
*Graham
*Kitchens
*Spencer
*Dooley
*...maybe even McGaughey
To me it's the price of having an experienced coaching staff, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Players are pros, and are asked to adjust. Part of the deal...
@rydunleavy
I’m told Bielema really wants back in the college game
1:22pm · 17 Feb 2020
Bring AP back into the org, or maybe Pepper Johnson can rehab himself with our LB corp.
That’s not how the business works at all. No coach is going to fault another one for taking an interview to be head coachz
I don’t care for Bielema to much, so if he goes whatever.
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Ryan Dunleavy
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I’m told Bielema really wants back in the college game
1:22pm · 17 Feb 2020
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
I’m told Bielema really wants back in the college game
1:22pm · 17 Feb 2020
So why take the job with us? That's my real beef here, it just seems like a dick move all around.
Bielema has a rep for being an asshole. It’s not a huge surprise.
There is nothing abnormal about this whether he stays or goes.
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Ryan Dunleavy
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I’m told Bielema really wants back in the college game
1:22pm · 17 Feb 2020
So why take the job with us? That's my real beef here, it just seems like a dick move all around.
Why take a job at all? Put the wife to work. Sit home and wait. Seems smart.
You don't understand why someone would accept a job even though there were other jobs (not yet offered to them) that they want more? Really? I can understand being frustrated/disappointed/pissed that once having accepted it he's continuing to look for something else. But to question why he'd have taken it in the first place seems... odd.
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When you hire former head coaches as assistants, there has to be an expectation that they're going to be in the mix for head coaching jobs