but I don’t see how someone would be able to survive a wreck like that. His driver side door was hit head on by a 200 mph race car while he was in midair. That’s the scariest crash I’ve ever seen.
but I don’t see how someone would be able to survive a wreck like that. His driver side door was hit head on by a 200 mph race car while he was in midair. That’s the scariest crash I’ve ever seen.
And then completely engulfed in flames. Just awful, hope he makes it.
That was an ugly crash. The second impact to the drivers side while upside down was brutal.
Newman is a tough mofo but the lack of news is concerning. I’m on NASCAR Presspass right now where they seem to be getting ready to do a press conference on him.
Bodine's crash in a NASCAR truck race at Daytona is probably the worst you'll see. There are views of an arm hanging out the window.
He not only survived, he was uninjured:
From that truck wreck.....Bodine, the 1986 Daytona 500 winner, was transported to Halifax Medical Center in Daytona Beach with a concussion, facial lacerations, a fractured, burned and lacerated right wrist, a sprained left toe and a midback fracture, among other injuries. He remained overnight in intensive care, in serious but stable condition.
Push someone on a curve at 200 mph is attempted fucking murder.
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
It has more to do with NASCAR as a whole and their implementation of restrictor plates, unlimited GWC finishes, and desire to want a product that has a ton of pack racing on superspeedways.
They would have LOVED the finish today had Newman got out fine. They constantly promote “The Big One” wreck as one of the best parts about Daytona/Talladega.
They’ve done a lot for the safety of this sport since Earnhardt passed, that much is undeniable. But they really need to rethink their goals for what a good superspeedway race is. I get it, Pack Racing can be fun and crazy to watch but it obviously puts drivers at risk.
Push someone on a curve at 200 mph is attempted fucking murder.
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
In a sense it was intentional, but They do it all the time to gain speed. Two cars together actually go faster - aerodynamics. They actually do tap bumpers. But in a mishmash like that with everyone bunched the aerodynamics can get confused and if down force was lost on either end it would cause a spin...was the tapping it intentional, probably. Possibly not to spin Newman out but to help push both cars ahead. It is a huge risk and not all the drivers are trusted to do so.
Have to remember also that if Newman's car lost some of his push from the trailing car, the car would decelerate and the trailing car would collide with the back end of his car further upsetting down force causing loss of control.
Spinning someone out on a short track is common, but not on a Super Speedway. Like you said, that is too dangerous.
Push someone on a curve at 200 mph is attempted fucking murder.
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
It has more to do with NASCAR as a whole and their implementation of restrictor plates, unlimited GWC finishes, and desire to want a product that has a ton of pack racing on superspeedways.
They would have LOVED the finish today had Newman got out fine. They constantly promote “The Big One” wreck as one of the best parts about Daytona/Talladega.
They’ve done a lot for the safety of this sport since Earnhardt passed, that much is undeniable. But they really need to rethink their goals for what a good superspeedway race is. I get it, Pack Racing can be fun and crazy to watch but it obviously puts drivers at risk.
Agreed. And the best driver that day has less of a chance to win. It took an hour and 15 minutes to run the last 16 of 200 laps because of all the wrecks. Tough to watch for me.
A fucking 500 mile race should reasonably only have a handful of cars on the lead laap by the end.
I remember in the early days of restrictor plates, around 1990, an aging FURIOUS AJ Foyt after exiting a race early screaming "ITS A GODDAMN TAXICAB RACE OUT THERE!"
It makes a 500 mile race utterly meaningless. Just run 10 laps, youll have the same result.
Auto racing as a whole technologically evolved beyond the capabilities of the drivers as well as basic safety physics.
NFL experiencing sonething of a parallel, players now so efficiently huge and fast, injuries are through the roof. Preventative safety measures make the sports boring, but boring > death.
A fucking 500 mile race should reasonably only have a handful of cars on the lead laap by the end.
I remember in the early days of restrictor plates, around 1990, an aging FURIOUS AJ Foyt after exiting a race early screaming "ITS A GODDAMN TAXICAB RACE OUT THERE!"
It makes a 500 mile race utterly meaningless. Just run 10 laps, youll have the same result.
afety measures make the sports boring, but boring > death.
Agree for the most part. The only thing though is the teams with the $$$$ like Hendrick will likely always have the faster cars. The plate races even it up a bit because the draft is so important.
What in the world does the start finish line, and Dale Sr’s accident have to do with the Newman accident?
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Daytona MUST relocate that fucking start/finish line. At the end of the backstretch would be a much safer location.
In the last sprint to the finish line, drivers push in desperation to get every last inch to the flag. Spinning from contact is much more likely while in a turn, and the trajectory to a head on collision with the wall more likely - also, puts fans at greater risk.
If the Daytona 500 has historically proven anything, it's that Daytona 500 white flag lap 4th turn is the most predictably dangerous location in American sports.
RE: RE: RE: Isn't it the SAME spot Earnhardt hit the wall?
What in the world does the start finish line, and Dale Sr’s accident have to do with the Newman accident?
In comment 14813032 x meadowlander said:
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Daytona MUST relocate that fucking start/finish line. At the end of the backstretch would be a much safer location.
In the last sprint to the finish line, drivers push in desperation to get every last inch to the flag. Spinning from contact is much more likely while in a turn, and the trajectory to a head on collision with the wall more likely - also, puts fans at greater risk.
If the Daytona 500 has historically proven anything, it's that Daytona 500 white flag lap 4th turn is the most predictably dangerous location in American sports.
may be the only death I remember at the end of a race. And actually, the majority of the guys killed have been in qualifying and not even near the start/finish line.
And then completely engulfed in flames. Just awful, hope he makes it.
Then again Dale Earnhardt's crash didn't look that bad in the annals of NASCAR crashes.
Prayers to him. Couple hundred yards from victory and then total disaster.
Newman is a tough mofo but the lack of news is concerning. I’m on NASCAR Presspass right now where they seem to be getting ready to do a press conference on him.
He not only survived, he was uninjured:
He not only survived, he was uninjured:
From that truck wreck.....Bodine, the 1986 Daytona 500 winner, was transported to Halifax Medical Center in Daytona Beach with a concussion, facial lacerations, a fractured, burned and lacerated right wrist, a sprained left toe and a midback fracture, among other injuries. He remained overnight in intensive care, in serious but stable condition.
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Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
Great to hear that we don’t have to worry about the absolute worst case scenario.
On behalf of Roush Racing statement:
Ryan Newman is in serious condition but doctors have indicated his injuries are not life threatening.”
https://twitter.com/allanbell247/status/1229602648736829440?s=21 - ( New Window )
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
It has more to do with NASCAR as a whole and their implementation of restrictor plates, unlimited GWC finishes, and desire to want a product that has a ton of pack racing on superspeedways.
They would have LOVED the finish today had Newman got out fine. They constantly promote “The Big One” wreck as one of the best parts about Daytona/Talladega.
They’ve done a lot for the safety of this sport since Earnhardt passed, that much is undeniable. But they really need to rethink their goals for what a good superspeedway race is. I get it, Pack Racing can be fun and crazy to watch but it obviously puts drivers at risk.
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
In a sense it was intentional, but They do it all the time to gain speed. Two cars together actually go faster - aerodynamics. They actually do tap bumpers. But in a mishmash like that with everyone bunched the aerodynamics can get confused and if down force was lost on either end it would cause a spin...was the tapping it intentional, probably. Possibly not to spin Newman out but to help push both cars ahead. It is a huge risk and not all the drivers are trusted to do so.
Have to remember also that if Newman's car lost some of his push from the trailing car, the car would decelerate and the trailing car would collide with the back end of his car further upsetting down force causing loss of control.
Spinning someone out on a short track is common, but not on a Super Speedway. Like you said, that is too dangerous.
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Thought the Daytona 500 was yesterday. All the tweets are from today.
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Push someone on a curve at 200 mph is attempted fucking murder.
Part of the sport, of course - Earnhardt was a master of spinning people on that last turn, lived by the sword...
A shame, truly.
Hope for the best with Newman and yes, after Bodine, miracles do happen, but to me, that wreck is inexcusable and INTENTIONAL.
It has more to do with NASCAR as a whole and their implementation of restrictor plates, unlimited GWC finishes, and desire to want a product that has a ton of pack racing on superspeedways.
They would have LOVED the finish today had Newman got out fine. They constantly promote “The Big One” wreck as one of the best parts about Daytona/Talladega.
They’ve done a lot for the safety of this sport since Earnhardt passed, that much is undeniable. But they really need to rethink their goals for what a good superspeedway race is. I get it, Pack Racing can be fun and crazy to watch but it obviously puts drivers at risk.
Agreed. And the best driver that day has less of a chance to win. It took an hour and 15 minutes to run the last 16 of 200 laps because of all the wrecks. Tough to watch for me.
I remember in the early days of restrictor plates, around 1990, an aging FURIOUS AJ Foyt after exiting a race early screaming "ITS A GODDAMN TAXICAB RACE OUT THERE!"
It makes a 500 mile race utterly meaningless. Just run 10 laps, youll have the same result.
Auto racing as a whole technologically evolved beyond the capabilities of the drivers as well as basic safety physics.
NFL experiencing sonething of a parallel, players now so efficiently huge and fast, injuries are through the roof. Preventative safety measures make the sports boring, but boring > death.
I remember in the early days of restrictor plates, around 1990, an aging FURIOUS AJ Foyt after exiting a race early screaming "ITS A GODDAMN TAXICAB RACE OUT THERE!"
It makes a 500 mile race utterly meaningless. Just run 10 laps, youll have the same result.
afety measures make the sports boring, but boring > death.
Agree for the most part. The only thing though is the teams with the $$$$ like Hendrick will likely always have the faster cars. The plate races even it up a bit because the draft is so important.
In comment 14813032 x meadowlander said:
In comment 14813032 x meadowlander said:
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Daytona MUST relocate that fucking start/finish line. At the end of the backstretch would be a much safer location.
If the Daytona 500 has historically proven anything, it's that Daytona 500 white flag lap 4th turn is the most predictably dangerous location in American sports.
So, it think the safety measures taken have worked since 5 drivers died in 2000-2001 and none have since. But yes, let’s move the start finish line.
In comment 14813426 x meadowlander said:
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What in the world does the start finish line, and Dale Sr’s accident have to do with the Newman accident?
In comment 14813032 x meadowlander said:
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Daytona MUST relocate that fucking start/finish line. At the end of the backstretch would be a much safer location.
In the last sprint to the finish line, drivers push in desperation to get every last inch to the flag. Spinning from contact is much more likely while in a turn, and the trajectory to a head on collision with the wall more likely - also, puts fans at greater risk.
If the Daytona 500 has historically proven anything, it's that Daytona 500 white flag lap 4th turn is the most predictably dangerous location in American sports.
Not sure why that is even raised as an issue.
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Ryan Newman has been treated and released from Halifax Medical Center