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NFT: Signs of the Pussification of America

Beezer : 2/18/2020 10:45 am
Over the weekend, I heard of a couple stories that cement the sentiment: the pussification of America is upon us.

1. Little League somewhere (maybe Cali?) did away with the Astros as a team name so the little kids won't be thought of as cheaters. Oy.



2. A school district in Upstate NY recently pulled its school logo/mascot (the cardinal) from its website because "it's scaring the elementary school children." I don't have a depiction of the cardinal, but apparently it had such a mean face, maybe like this one?



That they removed it.

What other pieces of admissible evidence is our there that in the area of pussification, we are truly FOCKED!?

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RE: RE: Mr. Ed...  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14813532 RC in MD said:
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Bet it's a Boomer or Gen X.


Impossible - there's no way miniature horses live that long.
You got a C on your book report....bend over!  
Bill L : 2/18/2020 3:58 pm : link
wtf?
RE: You got a C on your book report....bend over!  
x meadowlander : 2/18/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14813542 Bill L said:
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wtf?
I apologize. I'm in a mood.

I find the school comments interesting  
VTChuck : 2/18/2020 4:36 pm : link
as I worked over 30 years as a public school teacher. I also attended public schools in the 50's and 60's. And as others mentioned, there was never any doubt in my family whether my teachers were right or wrong when I was disciplined at school.

However, It was not all rosy back then. Christian prayer was mandatory. Conformity was the rule. My public high school had a dress code. My brother is a lefty and his grade school teacher tied his left hand to his chair to force him to write with his right (correct) hand. Bullying, especially in athletics was condoned.

I agree that teachers need to earn respect. But, if you had any idea the amount of pressure that administration puts on classroom teachers to inflate grades, ignore or cover-up problem or even violent students and placate helicopter parents, I suspect you would be more likely to cut teachers some slack.

RE: You got a C on your book report....bend over!  
Hsilwek92 : 2/18/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14813542 Bill L said:
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wtf?


Wait...so this didn’t happen to anyone else?

Ha my kid wrestled in HS, arch rivals’ mascot was:  
flycatcher : 2/18/2020 5:00 pm : link
“Devils”... said visitors locker was dark and dank, with walls covered in murals of nasty red devils. He said it was like being in a hellscape - no doubt an environment designed by the home team to psychologically intimidate opponents. No lawsuits were filed.
TLDR...  
trueblueinpw : 2/18/2020 5:09 pm : link
But I’m happy to toss in that I hate baby boomers. Totally sociopathic generation. Worst generation ever and the worst thing about them is that they never stop telling us all how great they are and how hard they worked for everything and how much we all owe to their generation . It’s ridiculous. Thanks for fucking up the planet Boomers, now please leave it.
Doug Stanhope has a funny routine...  
Milton : 2/18/2020 5:14 pm : link
...on the subject.
"This generation, the closest they come to a fist fight is on a message board" - ( New Window )
Basically Education Schools have ruined education  
Vanzetti : 2/18/2020 5:17 pm : link
You get administrators , counselors/ etc trying to impose what they leArned in grad school onto teachers and students

The Ed people also shape policy through their influence on legislators and think tanks. Thad where all this dumb $hit is coming from
1 thing I will say is it seems like young girls  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/18/2020 5:57 pm : link
are getting tougher. They are more eager to touch bait, guts and fish eye balls than they were even 10 years ago.

Now the mom's that break out the hand sanitizer every time they touch a fish are doing more harm by making their kids afraid of everything than a little fish slime will ever do to you. I find a lot of parents seem to be very afraid of anything that is outside of their normal safety bubble. They seem to just be living constantly on edge trying to protect themselves from every little (imaginary) thing. I don't remember growing up around as much fear as people carry around now a days.
RE: Doug Stanhope has a funny routine...  
montanagiant : 2/18/2020 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14813617 Milton said:
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...on the subject. "This generation, the closest they come to a fist fight is on a message board" - ( New Window )

It is amazing but also not entirely their fault. I graduated in the late '70s and yeah fighting was pretty common. But you fought until one gave up and ended there. Use to see fights in HS all the time. It would be over, the VP would tell you don't do it again and everyone moved on.

Now if they get in a fight it can result in criminal charges and suspensions.
RE: RE: Doug Stanhope has a funny routine...  
Milton : 2/18/2020 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14813665 montanagiant said:
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...on the subject. "This generation, the closest they come to a fist fight is on a message board" - ( New Window )


It is amazing but also not entirely their fault. I graduated in the late '70s and yeah fighting was pretty common. But you fought until one gave up and ended there. Use to see fights in HS all the time. It would be over, the VP would tell you don't do it again and everyone moved on.

Now if they get in a fight it can result in criminal charges and suspensions.
I didn't see a lot of fights in school, but the neighborhood was a different story. I got into fights all through grade school age but not since I reached the age where someone could really get hurt.
I simply said the pussification starts with parenting...  
EricJ : 2/18/2020 7:39 pm : link
not sure how people can argue that. Who else is turning kids into pussies?
RE: Gen X says fuck you all to Boomers and Millennials alike  
tb7117 : 2/18/2020 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14813419 Greg from LI said:
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You all suck


keep working jackass the next 40 years will fly by hahahaha loser
This article pissed me off.. basically blames Men  
NJ_GIANTS : 2/18/2020 10:00 pm : link
Why sports can be so toxic to boys and how we unravel that culture - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/health/sports-boys-toxic-parenting-wellness-strauss/index.html - ( New Window )
If you really want to blame someone  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/18/2020 10:01 pm : link
then blame lawyers.

People don't fight, because taking someone to court to try to get rich has become standard practice. Schools take fighting more seriously, because they don't want to be sued into oblivion.

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allstarjim : 2/18/2020 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14813336 x meadowlander said:
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.

That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?

Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.


First of all before I respond I am not a Boomer, I'm Gen X. Secondly, no generation is responsible for the countries' policies. Most boomers were to busy going to work to support their kids. Bad policy caused problems, but overall, this country is pretty damn great, and if you're blaming others for problems you should take a long look in the mirror. This is still a land of tremendous opportunity.
RE: Schools like Dartmouth, Cornell, Syracuse changed their mascots  
allstarjim : 2/18/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14813439 VTChuck said:
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while Florida State (tomahawk chop), Cleveland (Chief Wahoo), Atlanta, Washington continue with not only the mascots, but some pretty blatant racist "traditions".

To me that has nothing to do with "pussification" which is pretty misogynistic concept anyway.


My understanding is the Seminole Indian Tribe of Florida has supported the Florida State University's use of the Seminole name and tradition. They represent the Seminoles as brave warriors, nothing disrespectful about it.
RE: RE: RE: You don't need to point to the examples referenced by the OP..  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/19/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 14813747 allstarjim said:
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.

That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?

Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.



First of all before I respond I am not a Boomer, I'm Gen X. Secondly, no generation is responsible for the countries' policies. Most boomers were to busy going to work to support their kids. Bad policy caused problems, but overall, this country is pretty damn great, and if you're blaming others for problems you should take a long look in the mirror. This is still a land of tremendous opportunity.


While I agree many, most I'd say, need to take ownership of their lives and stop blaming their problems on others, social mobility is very low here compared to other developed countries. This country is pretty damn great compared to the developing world, but compared to other developed nation's we have a ton of institutional problems.
RE: RE: You got a C on your book report....bend over!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 14813584 Hsilwek92 said:
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wtf?



Wait...so this didn’t happen to anyone else?


It's the old saying:

"B's get degrees. C's get ass prolapses"
In my hometown of Scarborough, Maine  
Jalapeno : 2/19/2020 10:07 am : link
My high school was forced to change its "Redskin" mascot.

They held a vote for a new name.
Titans won.
Was promptly shot down because apparently Titans ate babies.

In mythology.

So eventually they settled on "Red Storm".

Mascot emblem is a black cloud with a red lightning bolt.

Sad.
I can't get over these younger people blaming Baby Boomers for  
PatersonPlank : 2/19/2020 10:10 am : link
everything. Its absolutely nuts. Its like now the only way to live is to position yourself as a victim of some kind. Its like an extension of identity politics.
Irony is apparently dead  
rsjem1979 : 2/19/2020 10:14 am : link
Whining about "pussification" and "snowflakes" and "safe spaces" or whatever else, meanwhile you're allegedly an adult who cares about high school mascots.

If someday someone decides that "Hornets" is a bad mascot for some reason or another, I doubt I'd even fucking care, because I graduated high school in 1997 and that's the last day I cared about high school.

Grow up. Times change. Morality changes. We're all going to die anyway, who cares?
RE: I can't get over these younger people blaming Baby Boomers for  
bceagle05 : 2/19/2020 10:20 am : link
In comment 14813870 PatersonPlank said:
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everything. Its absolutely nuts. Its like now the only way to live is to position yourself as a victim of some kind. Its like an extension of identity politics.

I'm not into placing blame, but I do think it's fair to point out the baby boomers were lucky to come of age when they did. People with typical middle/working class jobs during that time could buy houses, start families and pay the bills - nothing extravagant, but comfortable enough. My parents are living proof of that. The same jobs nowadays don't get you nearly as far. Cost of education and cost of living have gone up dramatically, salaries have not matched it. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
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PatersonPlank : 2/19/2020 10:36 am : link
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everything. Its absolutely nuts. Its like now the only way to live is to position yourself as a victim of some kind. Its like an extension of identity politics.


I'm not into placing blame, but I do think it's fair to point out the baby boomers were lucky to come of age when they did. People with typical middle/working class jobs during that time could buy houses, start families and pay the bills - nothing extravagant, but comfortable enough. My parents are living proof of that. The same jobs nowadays don't get you nearly as far. Cost of education and cost of living have gone up dramatically, salaries have not matched it. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.


Above there are people blaming baby boomers for their hardships. I don't think personally people know what they are talking about. I am on the cusp but am clearly a Gen X kid (as many bornin in the early or mid 60's). Th Baby boomers were the flower children, druggies, anti-war. "peace loving" groupies of the 60's and 70's. They were basically rebelling against WW2 and the like. The only thing you can blame them for is lack of ambition.

My bigger point is every generation is a reflection of the society that precede them. For anyone born in the 1990's (for example) to comment on what the Baby Boomers were going through, what affected them, and if they reacted in the right way or not, is a bunch of crap. You weren't there and you don't know, and a few liberal written books likely can't tell you and have slanted purpose anyway.

For the people who bash them, its more about a perceived jealousy than anything else (and having been a a child then I certainly don't know why anyone would be jealous). It goes back to people finding reasons for their current state of affairs by blaming others before them. Its always someone else.
RE: Irony is apparently dead  
KDubbs : 2/19/2020 10:40 am : link
In comment 14813874 rsjem1979 said:
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Whining about "pussification" and "snowflakes" and "safe spaces" or whatever else, meanwhile you're allegedly an adult who cares about high school mascots.

If someday someone decides that "Hornets" is a bad mascot for some reason or another, I doubt I'd even fucking care, because I graduated high school in 1997 and that's the last day I cared about high school.

Grow up. Times change. Morality changes. We're all going to die anyway, who cares?


The ones claiming people are triggered are triggered by them being triggered. The comedy writes itself. Most of this shit is so stupid, its crazy people care. Same people saying fake news then see the story like this and the news is true and meaningful
I think I'm looking forward to the Age Wars.  
Motley Two : 2/19/2020 11:06 am : link
Remember kiddos, don't fire until you see the whites of their pediatric shoes.
I'm glad I wasn't a Boomer  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/19/2020 11:19 am : link
Because I would have been in a padded cell after living through 1968.
RE: In my hometown of Scarborough, Maine  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/19/2020 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14813864 Jalapeno said:
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My high school was forced to change its "Redskin" mascot.

They held a vote for a new name.
Titans won.
Was promptly shot down because apparently Titans ate babies.

In mythology.

So eventually they settled on "Red Storm".

Mascot emblem is a black cloud with a red lightning bolt.

Sad.


Obviously, Red Storm was acceptable only because it was well past the McCarthyism era.

Otherwise Redskins would have been more acceptable than _Storm.
I love how people on here either praise or condemn an entire ...  
Crispino : 2/19/2020 5:19 pm : link
generation. Some genius earlier said “Fuck the Baby Boomers”. So, fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964. Glad you’re so enlightened.
RE: I love how people on here either praise or condemn an entire ...  
Motley Two : 2/19/2020 5:49 pm : link
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generation. Some genius earlier said “Fuck the Baby Boomers”. So, fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964. Glad you’re so enlightened.


You just keep your head low, Old Timer.
Those Millennials have crazy focus from all the Adderall they take. You don't want to catch a fidget spinner upside your head.
Bunch of fucking pussies in here...  
EricJ : 2/19/2020 9:00 pm : link
...you know who you are!
RE: I love how people on here either praise or condemn an entire ...  
Beezer : 2/20/2020 11:47 am : link
In comment 14814422 Crispino said:
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generation. Some genius earlier said “Fuck the Baby Boomers”. So, fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964. Glad you’re so enlightened.


Something about "fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964" makes me laugh a little bit.
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x meadowlander : 2/20/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14814819 Beezer said:
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generation. Some genius earlier said “Fuck the Baby Boomers”. So, fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964. Glad you’re so enlightened.



Something about "fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964" makes me laugh a little bit.
That was me. Yes, that generation can go fuck themselves. Their bullshit shredded the working class of this country, their unjustified wars have destroyed the lives of millions (and seems to have destabilized the Middle East forever), their attacks on science endanger the planet, their deficits a massive burden on our kids. Economic disparity not seen since the robber baron era, yeah, pat yourselves on the back while simultaneously shoving your own cock in your ass. >:)

At least the music was decent.
I'm guessing I won't be receiving a birthday gift  
Beezer : 2/20/2020 11:57 am : link
from you, x.

March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
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x meadowlander : 2/20/2020 11:59 am : link
In comment 14814833 Beezer said:
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from you, x.

March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
I meant you most of all and you know it.


I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.
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Beezer : 2/20/2020 12:02 pm : link
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from you, x.

March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.

I meant you most of all and you know it.


I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.


I do what I can, especially when it comes to destabilizing the Middle East.
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x meadowlander : 2/20/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14814839 Beezer said:
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from you, x.

March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.

I meant you most of all and you know it.


I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.



I do what I can, especially when it comes to destabilizing the Middle East.
I got a list! I know who fell for that WMD line of shit!
sounds like  
Bill2 : 2/20/2020 12:08 pm : link
a narrow minded lost soul without any generational influences to blame for his condition. Got lost and loaded with bigotry all on your own.

No response until after a lot of time in the mirror.

Own it. Fix it
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x meadowlander : 2/20/2020 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14814842 Bill2 said:
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a narrow minded lost soul without any generational influences to blame for his condition. Got lost and loaded with bigotry all on your own.

No response until after a lot of time in the mirror.

Own it. Fix it
Oh, that's definitely me, and I own it.


I'll consider the mirror. Do you think it will really help? :)
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Bill2 : 2/20/2020 12:16 pm : link
more likely than interacting with a neutral messenger every might
Oh man...  
RC in MD : 2/20/2020 1:10 pm : link
RC  
Bill2 : 2/20/2020 3:25 pm : link
Not at all.

a) Coming off of WW2 and the rapid decline of the colonial powers of Europe and going right into the re-assertion of raw material rights and pricing in the 1970's:

1) There were rising and appropriately rising (imo) political and economic and health expectations all over the world. Africa, the ME, Asia, South America. And the ability to do something about it (also largely spread by the US and its educational system and efforts).


2) The USA had over 50% of the world GDP. Had close to 70% of its manufacturing capacity. Had significant labor arbitrage in favor of American workers.

In a world where long term economic growth rates fluctuated between 0-2% and population increases exploded...where exactly do you think some areas would decline and some increase past constant violence and disease?

B) When the combination of those forces and the energy shocks of 1973 and 1977 hit the core of NY state, Pennsylvania, the Great Lake states, the Ohio Valley States, New England and the Carolinas the unemployment rate amongst Baby Boomers for that decade reached 18-24% with an inflation rate of 14-22%.

Given that the rights movements and the opposition to the War and the Establishment came from the full support of Baby Boomers ( overwhelmingly liberal on domestic and international issues ) prior to that decade ( which also re set the standards of the world by the US coming off the gold standard in the 1970'sb to help other nations adjust and pay off debts to colonial Europe) how was any generation of any nation responsible for the huge shifts in global income equality ( notice we talk about US income equality now but forget the degree to which infant mortality, life span and global GDP per capita has become more equal) and the concomitant shrinking in opportunity and lifestyle choices here in the US compared to the prior generation?

I submit the Baby Boomer generation prior to 1970 and after is two different outlooks and perspectives.

Further, the whole thread talks about the pussification of America without noting that all of these items are outcomes set in motion by an America trying to assimilate a wider range of cultures and life choices. Some members of what generation started and accommodated that back when it was an actual fight to do so?

So what I see on the thread is actually not only just really bad myopic thinking but people actually angry at:

1) the rest of the world doing relatively better

2) Angry that they are not doing much much better than those people like it was back in one of the oddest and unbalanced global economic moments in history during 1945-1970

3) then deciding that the fault lies with all the people of a certain age in the only place that could decline while others rebalanced.

4) Displaying the bigotry of labeling any group and despising them as less than ---while self proclaiming unexamined enlightenment for themselves

5) Ignoring the fact that the tail end of the Industrial Revolution unwound around the world due to centuries old forces.

Lots of emoting. No thinking. Very impressive.
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Bill2 : 2/20/2020 3:39 pm : link
now I do agree that the financial and political elites which arose over the last 40 years have been awful - but even competent elites could not turn back the forces at work over the globe once the suppression device of the colonial powers came away.

the dislocation, stress, disappointment and reduction in the upward mobility enjoyed by generations of Americans which occurred while America was a mix of "Greatest Generation", baby boomer and x and millennial was the see-saw reaction given impossible to restrain correction on 150 years of population, food, basic health and economic sanity for 5.5B of the 6 billion people on the planet
Good post Bill  
PatersonPlank : 2/20/2020 3:43 pm : link
The other thing here that confuses me is the ranting about Baby Boomers causing all these things perceived as wrong. IF, for example, they are ranting about the Wall St of the 1980's (the greed is good thing), well the average Baby Boomer was about 30 yrs old then, certainly not in any position to make real decisions. They were just starting careers and likely peons. The leaders of Wall St then were the Silent Generation, likely folks born in the 1930's. People just look at certain dates ad spout off without thinking.
While I can't compete with the empirical method that Bill2  
RC in MD : 2/20/2020 4:07 pm : link
uses to support his argument, I think most people in this thread are just having a little fun at throwing mud at each other (across generational lines, of course), especially since it's Beezer, who started this thread. I'm surprised no one brought up Molly.

Seriously though, no one should generalize any generation by its worst examples nor its best examples. Millennials and Generation Z are no less greater than those generations that have come before them, no matter how many people want to call them snowflakes or whatever else. Each generation is great and terrible, but none is better than any other. Let's leave it at that.
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Mike in Long Beach : 2/20/2020 4:54 pm : link
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I'm surprised no one brought up Molly.


That damn millennial is probably still freeloading in Beezer's locked basement. Smh.
Beez - you are still looking for signs?  
short lease : 2/22/2020 12:36 am : link

It is already official - no need for anymore evidence.

Even BBI gives out participation trophies now ...


(j/k Eric). ; )
I certainly  
crick n NC : 2/22/2020 2:56 am : link
Blame cheese 🧀
It really is funny when..  
EricJ : 2/22/2020 12:55 pm : link
a hand full of pussies point at a whole generation of baby boomers as if they are responsible for the decisions made by a handful of people who were likely born before the 1940's.

I highly doubt these boomers enjoyed fighting in the Vietnam War for example and nor did they make decisions that impacted our environment. No more than any one person here does.

So, if you have a problem with something then get off your ass and do something about it and stop posting about it on the internet from your pedestal of ignorance.
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