Over the weekend, I heard of a couple stories that cement the sentiment: the pussification of America is upon us.
1. Little League somewhere (maybe Cali?) did away with the Astros as a team name so the little kids won't be thought of as cheaters. Oy.
2. A school district in Upstate NY recently pulled its school logo/mascot (the cardinal) from its website because "it's scaring the elementary school children." I don't have a depiction of the cardinal, but apparently it had such a mean face, maybe like this one?
That they removed it.
What other pieces of admissible evidence is our there that in the area of pussification, we are truly FOCKED!?
And hey, RompHim went out of business, so all can't be lost, right?
My former High School also changed its name from "Indians" to "Eagles" because the former was considered highly offensive.
And the colors from powder blue to black and grey.
And I literally did field a comment about it sounding like a 'terrorist' name.
I would think the district posting pubic information is more offensive.
Still doesn't top when I was a Capitol Hill reporter and one of the House committees put out a PR announcing a hearing on "pubic subsidies." But I Miller...
If I were president of a Little League and we had an Astros named team, I'd recommend changing it.
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
Ha! Guess I didn't think of it in this category. Just, that it's bizarre AF.
Still lots of Indians in our region. The subject will come up here and there, years apart, usually spurred by a national flare-up (Redskins, Braves, that sort of thing), then local media outlets hound local school officials, who do their level best to duck and run. lol
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a friend who works with the district on website/pubic info types of things.
I would think the district posting pubic information is more offensive.
Ha!
Yeah ... public.
TENtacles. TENtacles. N-T.
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
Yes, the horror of the too-soft, too-involved parents. When you say “go back to when ...,” what decade/era are you talking about? I bet some of the folks during that alleged golden period would disagree it was better.
We are already pussies based on the blessings of our birth.
It's still okay to carp about the special generation of social justice warriors who also have no clue about real hardships because they do make it more difficult to have a rational conversation about anything.
I'm not going to tell a native American whether they can or cannot find the word "Indian" offensive but sadly we're at the point where we can only be called a racist by their unappointed advocates when we merely ask the question.
Also just watched Steve Austin realign a nuclear bomb to correct the moons orbit and save the world. Good times.
Protect the kiddies from the evil Astros! Oh boy.
Just my take.
I’ve got mixed emotions on this one. Kid who isn’t kid enough, yeah parents holding him back a year or moving - doing absolutely nothing for the kid but harm. In those situations, I find it isn’t about the kids well being - but about the parents ego and Facebook posting.
But there’s a high school I know, insanely competitive every year, nationally ranked etc. know a good lefty pitcher, didn’t make the team. Now to put it in perspective. His senior season we are talking a 6’6” lefty. That alone should get you a spot on any HS team. Oh, also hit upper 80s. Not exactly draft quality, but the kid didn’t make his HS team!!! Was good enough to almost get a full ride to college though. Did. Not. Make his HS team... insanity at some of these schools...
And hey, RompHim went out of business, so all can't be lost, right?
Hey Mr. Pot, I have a Kettle you should meet....
Assuming you are a Yankee/Met fan, or quite frankly, a MLB fan in general.....
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.
Bingo.
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?
Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.
Well of course they are killing it, everyone gets trophies and A's duh.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
All the shit in the environment is effecting testosterone levels, 2-3 generations ago D. Wade son would be spitting nails instead of doing his nails.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
I would argue the exact opposite.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
One of the funniest memes that I've seen lately:
Boomer: You snowflakes are a bunch of pussies.
Millennia: Ok, Boomer.
Boomer: That's like calling me an "n" word! I'm going to sue for discrimination!
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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
I would argue the exact opposite.
And, I'd add that in some cases that's not necessarily a bad thing, as they are bothered by and taught to call out things that we were told to "get over" or ignore for generations.
Old men should stop calling kids pussies. In reality their problem is with these kids parents, otherwise known as THEIR CHILDREN.
When you are effectively calling your grandchildren pussies you are kinda glossing over the problem, part of which is you.
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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.
I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
I would argue the exact opposite.
All one has to do is log on to Twitter to see that.
If Twitter were around for the previous 50 years you'd be able to dig up the same whiny tweets from your parents and grandparents, I promise you.
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It's absolutely astounding the whining and crying and complaining that our generation and younger does on there. It's hilarious.
If Twitter were around for the previous 50 years you'd be able to dig up the same whiny tweets from your parents and grandparents, I promise you.
No chance. You must not log on to Twitter to see some of the things these folks whine and cry about.
Generation [Insert Yours Here] says fuck you to [Any/All of the others]
You are being delusional if you don't think the bitching would be the same if the tech existed 50 years ago.
To me that has nothing to do with "pussification" which is pretty misogynistic concept anyway.
Baby Boomers also had to deal with the Viet nam war. No fun going to college thinking you were going to die upon graduation because your draft number was 34. Boomers worked hard there were few silver spoons.
And let's not forget the squirrels, otherwise known as "Satan's Familiars."
You had it soft! We'd ghet turned out naked in January and were told to come back when the skunk cabbage started to sprout.
Boomers begat Gen X and Millenials, and Gen X begat Millenials and Gen Z. We are all to blame for the foibles of each successive generations (I'm barely a Gen X).
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bitch about younger generations. Baby boomers had every advantage known to man - born into a post-WWII booming American economy after their parents and grandparents endured the Great Depression and World Wars and handed them a country at the height of its powers. Low cost of living, low cost of education, social safety nets in place - I'd happily take all of those perks if it meant sacrificing my t-ball participation trophy.
Baby Boomers also had to deal with the Viet nam war. No fun going to college thinking you were going to die upon graduation because your draft number was 34. Boomers worked hard there were few silver spoons.
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
My mistake...
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bitch about younger generations. Baby boomers had every advantage known to man - born into a post-WWII booming American economy after their parents and grandparents endured the Great Depression and World Wars and handed them a country at the height of its powers. Low cost of living, low cost of education, social safety nets in place - I'd happily take all of those perks if it meant sacrificing my t-ball participation trophy.
Baby Boomers also had to deal with the Viet nam war. No fun going to college thinking you were going to die upon graduation because your draft number was 34. Boomers worked hard there were few silver spoons.
Wait...wasn't the Vietnam War called the "Working Class War" because large portion of draftees fighting and dying were from the lower working class and not the privileged upper class? I mean, if that isn't a definition of silver spoon, I don't know what is.
You are being delusional if you don't think the bitching would be the same if the tech existed 50 years ago.
LOL. Happened a few years ago with my dad. He used to be proud that he had never even turned on a computer in his entire life.
He used to call me at work (which was never a problem since I worked alone) to book plane tickets, hotels, look up & order car parts, ect.
I would laugh & tell him that I thought he would like it and then he ended up getting a tablet as a gift. He took to it like a duck to water. He found a neighbors unsecured wifi & would use to connect to the internet, then would email me about it and tell me that he was pretty much a hacker now.
He picked it up quick!
Then two weeks later, he was blocked by Youtube from leaving comments on videos lol.
Wait...wasn't the Vietnam War called the "Working Class War" because large portion of draftees fighting and dying were from the lower working class and not the privileged upper class? I mean, if that isn't a definition of silver spoon, I don't know what is.
How the Draft Reshaped America - ( New Window )
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total bull RC , you had a draft Number in a lottery it didn't matter if you were rich or poor. silver spoons are for the super wealthy not the middle class
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bitch about younger generations. Baby boomers had every advantage known to man - born into a post-WWII booming American economy after their parents and grandparents endured the Great Depression and World Wars and handed them a country at the height of its powers. Low cost of living, low cost of education, social safety nets in place - I'd happily take all of those perks if it meant sacrificing my t-ball participation trophy.
Baby Boomers also had to deal with the Viet nam war. No fun going to college thinking you were going to die upon graduation because your draft number was 34. Boomers worked hard there were few silver spoons.
Wait...wasn't the Vietnam War called the "Working Class War" because large portion of draftees fighting and dying were from the lower working class and not the privileged upper class? I mean, if that isn't a definition of silver spoon, I don't know what is.
The anecdote from my walking to school uphill both ways days is that whenever I got into trouble at school, I had to apologize to the teacher (at a minimum) and got punished twice as hard at home. That was the default practice and the teacher/school didn't even need to say what it was I did wrong. Honestly, I think that's how it should be.
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bitch about younger generations. Baby boomers had every advantage known to man - born into a post-WWII booming American economy after their parents and grandparents endured the Great Depression and World Wars and handed them a country at the height of its powers. Low cost of living, low cost of education, social safety nets in place - I'd happily take all of those perks if it meant sacrificing my t-ball participation trophy.
Baby Boomers also had to deal with the Viet nam war. No fun going to college thinking you were going to die upon graduation because your draft number was 34. Boomers worked hard there were few silver spoons.
Wait...wasn't the Vietnam War called the "Working Class War" because large portion of draftees fighting and dying were from the lower working class and not the privileged upper class? I mean, if that isn't a definition of silver spoon, I don't know what is.
Only the ones who didn't know how to speak Canadian.
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In comment 14813406 bceagle05 said:
total bull RC , you had a draft Number in a lottery it didn't matter if you were rich or poor. silver spoons are for the super wealthy not the middle class
I'm not sure...when you can pretty much get a deferment for being a college student for a few years, you don't have to be ultra rich to get one. These are opportunities not afforded to minorities and poor whites from the south. So tell me how that isn't silver spoon? Having a draft number doesn't mean equal chance of being picked when you can literally remove yourself from the lottery (in a sense) for a few years because of some kind of a deferment whether it was college or medical deferment you got from your family doctor.
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But my cats say birds are bad.
And let's not forget the squirrels, otherwise known as "Satan's Familiars."
Years and years ago, my wife was driving her car when a squirrel ran out in front of her. In her attempt to avoid it, she actually hit and killed the squirrel. To this day, it still bothers her, but that doesn't stop me from saying, "I was there. You tried to hit that squirrel you sick bastard."
The anecdote from my walking to school uphill both ways days is that whenever I got into trouble at school, I had to apologize to the teacher (at a minimum) and got punished twice as hard at home. That was the default practice and the teacher/school didn't even need to say what it was I did wrong. Honestly, I think that's how it should be.
So you're arguing that the parents of Millennials and Gen Z are the real assholes here.
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but I will say that, irrespective of generation, a teacher's grade should be absolute and parents should absolutely be prohibited from trying to get it changed. Likewise, if a school punishes your child, there's probably a 99% chance that (s)he deserved it. Let it go.
The anecdote from my walking to school uphill both ways days is that whenever I got into trouble at school, I had to apologize to the teacher (at a minimum) and got punished twice as hard at home. That was the default practice and the teacher/school didn't even need to say what it was I did wrong. Honestly, I think that's how it should be.
So you're arguing that the parents of Millennials and Gen Z are the real assholes here.
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Bet it's a Boomer or Gen X.
The anecdote from my walking to school uphill both ways days is that whenever I got into trouble at school, I had to apologize to the teacher (at a minimum) and got punished twice as hard at home. That was the default practice and the teacher/school didn't even need to say what it was I did wrong. Honestly, I think that's how it should be.
Yeah, adults are to be trusted.
Fuck that. Trust is EARNED. INDIVIDUALLY, not institutionally.
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but I will say that, irrespective of generation, a teacher's grade should be absolute and parents should absolutely be prohibited from trying to get it changed. Likewise, if a school punishes your child, there's probably a 99% chance that (s)he deserved it. Let it go.
The anecdote from my walking to school uphill both ways days is that whenever I got into trouble at school, I had to apologize to the teacher (at a minimum) and got punished twice as hard at home. That was the default practice and the teacher/school didn't even need to say what it was I did wrong. Honestly, I think that's how it should be.
That's the mindset that gets Boy Scouts and Altar Boys raped.
Yeah, adults are to be trusted.
Fuck that. Trust is EARNED. INDIVIDUALLY, not institutionally.
That escalated...whoa.
Impossible - there's no way miniature horses live that long.
However, It was not all rosy back then. Christian prayer was mandatory. Conformity was the rule. My public high school had a dress code. My brother is a lefty and his grade school teacher tied his left hand to his chair to force him to write with his right (correct) hand. Bullying, especially in athletics was condoned.
I agree that teachers need to earn respect. But, if you had any idea the amount of pressure that administration puts on classroom teachers to inflate grades, ignore or cover-up problem or even violent students and placate helicopter parents, I suspect you would be more likely to cut teachers some slack.
Wait...so this didn’t happen to anyone else?
"This generation, the closest they come to a fist fight is on a message board" - ( New Window )
The Ed people also shape policy through their influence on legislators and think tanks. Thad where all this dumb $hit is coming from
Now the mom's that break out the hand sanitizer every time they touch a fish are doing more harm by making their kids afraid of everything than a little fish slime will ever do to you. I find a lot of parents seem to be very afraid of anything that is outside of their normal safety bubble. They seem to just be living constantly on edge trying to protect themselves from every little (imaginary) thing. I don't remember growing up around as much fear as people carry around now a days.
It is amazing but also not entirely their fault. I graduated in the late '70s and yeah fighting was pretty common. But you fought until one gave up and ended there. Use to see fights in HS all the time. It would be over, the VP would tell you don't do it again and everyone moved on.
Now if they get in a fight it can result in criminal charges and suspensions.
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...on the subject. "This generation, the closest they come to a fist fight is on a message board" - ( New Window )
It is amazing but also not entirely their fault. I graduated in the late '70s and yeah fighting was pretty common. But you fought until one gave up and ended there. Use to see fights in HS all the time. It would be over, the VP would tell you don't do it again and everyone moved on.
Now if they get in a fight it can result in criminal charges and suspensions.
keep working jackass the next 40 years will fly by hahahaha loser
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/health/sports-boys-toxic-parenting-wellness-strauss/index.html - ( New Window )
People don't fight, because taking someone to court to try to get rich has become standard practice. Schools take fighting more seriously, because they don't want to be sued into oblivion.
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?
Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.
First of all before I respond I am not a Boomer, I'm Gen X. Secondly, no generation is responsible for the countries' policies. Most boomers were to busy going to work to support their kids. Bad policy caused problems, but overall, this country is pretty damn great, and if you're blaming others for problems you should take a long look in the mirror. This is still a land of tremendous opportunity.
To me that has nothing to do with "pussification" which is pretty misogynistic concept anyway.
My understanding is the Seminole Indian Tribe of Florida has supported the Florida State University's use of the Seminole name and tradition. They represent the Seminoles as brave warriors, nothing disrespectful about it.
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.
If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?
Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.
First of all before I respond I am not a Boomer, I'm Gen X. Secondly, no generation is responsible for the countries' policies. Most boomers were to busy going to work to support their kids. Bad policy caused problems, but overall, this country is pretty damn great, and if you're blaming others for problems you should take a long look in the mirror. This is still a land of tremendous opportunity.
While I agree many, most I'd say, need to take ownership of their lives and stop blaming their problems on others, social mobility is very low here compared to other developed countries. This country is pretty damn great compared to the developing world, but compared to other developed nation's we have a ton of institutional problems.
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wtf?
Wait...so this didn’t happen to anyone else?
It's the old saying:
"B's get degrees. C's get ass prolapses"
They held a vote for a new name.
Titans won.
Was promptly shot down because apparently Titans ate babies.
In mythology.
So eventually they settled on "Red Storm".
Mascot emblem is a black cloud with a red lightning bolt.
Sad.
If someday someone decides that "Hornets" is a bad mascot for some reason or another, I doubt I'd even fucking care, because I graduated high school in 1997 and that's the last day I cared about high school.
Grow up. Times change. Morality changes. We're all going to die anyway, who cares?
I'm not into placing blame, but I do think it's fair to point out the baby boomers were lucky to come of age when they did. People with typical middle/working class jobs during that time could buy houses, start families and pay the bills - nothing extravagant, but comfortable enough. My parents are living proof of that. The same jobs nowadays don't get you nearly as far. Cost of education and cost of living have gone up dramatically, salaries have not matched it. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
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everything. Its absolutely nuts. Its like now the only way to live is to position yourself as a victim of some kind. Its like an extension of identity politics.
I'm not into placing blame, but I do think it's fair to point out the baby boomers were lucky to come of age when they did. People with typical middle/working class jobs during that time could buy houses, start families and pay the bills - nothing extravagant, but comfortable enough. My parents are living proof of that. The same jobs nowadays don't get you nearly as far. Cost of education and cost of living have gone up dramatically, salaries have not matched it. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
Above there are people blaming baby boomers for their hardships. I don't think personally people know what they are talking about. I am on the cusp but am clearly a Gen X kid (as many bornin in the early or mid 60's). Th Baby boomers were the flower children, druggies, anti-war. "peace loving" groupies of the 60's and 70's. They were basically rebelling against WW2 and the like. The only thing you can blame them for is lack of ambition.
My bigger point is every generation is a reflection of the society that precede them. For anyone born in the 1990's (for example) to comment on what the Baby Boomers were going through, what affected them, and if they reacted in the right way or not, is a bunch of crap. You weren't there and you don't know, and a few liberal written books likely can't tell you and have slanted purpose anyway.
For the people who bash them, its more about a perceived jealousy than anything else (and having been a a child then I certainly don't know why anyone would be jealous). It goes back to people finding reasons for their current state of affairs by blaming others before them. Its always someone else.
If someday someone decides that "Hornets" is a bad mascot for some reason or another, I doubt I'd even fucking care, because I graduated high school in 1997 and that's the last day I cared about high school.
Grow up. Times change. Morality changes. We're all going to die anyway, who cares?
The ones claiming people are triggered are triggered by them being triggered. The comedy writes itself. Most of this shit is so stupid, its crazy people care. Same people saying fake news then see the story like this and the news is true and meaningful
They held a vote for a new name.
Titans won.
Was promptly shot down because apparently Titans ate babies.
In mythology.
So eventually they settled on "Red Storm".
Mascot emblem is a black cloud with a red lightning bolt.
Sad.
Obviously, Red Storm was acceptable only because it was well past the McCarthyism era.
Otherwise Redskins would have been more acceptable than _Storm.
You just keep your head low, Old Timer.
Those Millennials have crazy focus from all the Adderall they take. You don't want to catch a fidget spinner upside your head.
Something about "fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964" makes me laugh a little bit.
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generation. Some genius earlier said “Fuck the Baby Boomers”. So, fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964. Glad you’re so enlightened.
Something about "fuck everybody born between 1946 and 1964" makes me laugh a little bit.
At least the music was decent.
March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.
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from you, x.
March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
I meant you most of all and you know it.
I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.
I do what I can, especially when it comes to destabilizing the Middle East.
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from you, x.
March 16, 1964. You fucking fuck.
I meant you most of all and you know it.
I was born in 65', so I am NOT a Boomer and can properly smite the lot of you.
I do what I can, especially when it comes to destabilizing the Middle East.
No response until after a lot of time in the mirror.
Own it. Fix it
No response until after a lot of time in the mirror.
Own it. Fix it
I'll consider the mirror. Do you think it will really help? :)
a) Coming off of WW2 and the rapid decline of the colonial powers of Europe and going right into the re-assertion of raw material rights and pricing in the 1970's:
1) There were rising and appropriately rising (imo) political and economic and health expectations all over the world. Africa, the ME, Asia, South America. And the ability to do something about it (also largely spread by the US and its educational system and efforts).
2) The USA had over 50% of the world GDP. Had close to 70% of its manufacturing capacity. Had significant labor arbitrage in favor of American workers.
In a world where long term economic growth rates fluctuated between 0-2% and population increases exploded...where exactly do you think some areas would decline and some increase past constant violence and disease?
B) When the combination of those forces and the energy shocks of 1973 and 1977 hit the core of NY state, Pennsylvania, the Great Lake states, the Ohio Valley States, New England and the Carolinas the unemployment rate amongst Baby Boomers for that decade reached 18-24% with an inflation rate of 14-22%.
Given that the rights movements and the opposition to the War and the Establishment came from the full support of Baby Boomers ( overwhelmingly liberal on domestic and international issues ) prior to that decade ( which also re set the standards of the world by the US coming off the gold standard in the 1970'sb to help other nations adjust and pay off debts to colonial Europe) how was any generation of any nation responsible for the huge shifts in global income equality ( notice we talk about US income equality now but forget the degree to which infant mortality, life span and global GDP per capita has become more equal) and the concomitant shrinking in opportunity and lifestyle choices here in the US compared to the prior generation?
I submit the Baby Boomer generation prior to 1970 and after is two different outlooks and perspectives.
Further, the whole thread talks about the pussification of America without noting that all of these items are outcomes set in motion by an America trying to assimilate a wider range of cultures and life choices. Some members of what generation started and accommodated that back when it was an actual fight to do so?
So what I see on the thread is actually not only just really bad myopic thinking but people actually angry at:
1) the rest of the world doing relatively better
2) Angry that they are not doing much much better than those people like it was back in one of the oddest and unbalanced global economic moments in history during 1945-1970
3) then deciding that the fault lies with all the people of a certain age in the only place that could decline while others rebalanced.
4) Displaying the bigotry of labeling any group and despising them as less than ---while self proclaiming unexamined enlightenment for themselves
5) Ignoring the fact that the tail end of the Industrial Revolution unwound around the world due to centuries old forces.
Lots of emoting. No thinking. Very impressive.
the dislocation, stress, disappointment and reduction in the upward mobility enjoyed by generations of Americans which occurred while America was a mix of "Greatest Generation", baby boomer and x and millennial was the see-saw reaction given impossible to restrain correction on 150 years of population, food, basic health and economic sanity for 5.5B of the 6 billion people on the planet
Seriously though, no one should generalize any generation by its worst examples nor its best examples. Millennials and Generation Z are no less greater than those generations that have come before them, no matter how many people want to call them snowflakes or whatever else. Each generation is great and terrible, but none is better than any other. Let's leave it at that.
That damn millennial is probably still freeloading in Beezer's locked basement. Smh.
It is already official - no need for anymore evidence.
Even BBI gives out participation trophies now ...
(j/k Eric). ; )
I highly doubt these boomers enjoyed fighting in the Vietnam War for example and nor did they make decisions that impacted our environment. No more than any one person here does.
So, if you have a problem with something then get off your ass and do something about it and stop posting about it on the internet from your pedestal of ignorance.