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NFT: Signs of the Pussification of America

Beezer : 2/18/2020 10:45 am
Over the weekend, I heard of a couple stories that cement the sentiment: the pussification of America is upon us.

1. Little League somewhere (maybe Cali?) did away with the Astros as a team name so the little kids won't be thought of as cheaters. Oy.



2. A school district in Upstate NY recently pulled its school logo/mascot (the cardinal) from its website because "it's scaring the elementary school children." I don't have a depiction of the cardinal, but apparently it had such a mean face, maybe like this one?



That they removed it.

What other pieces of admissible evidence is our there that in the area of pussification, we are truly FOCKED!?

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I see no problem whatsoever with item 1  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 10:48 am : link
The cheaters can rot in hell.

And hey, RompHim went out of business, so all can't be lost, right?
lol who would want to be named the astros now  
MM_in_NYC : 2/18/2020 10:49 am : link
source on cardinals?
Suspension  
Big Al : 2/18/2020 10:49 am : link
of the Hunger Games.
moving  
tator : 2/18/2020 10:53 am : link
I hate it when kids go to a tough sports school and when they are not good enoughto make HS team The parents move to get them on a team at a diffrent and usually smaller HS.. instead of parents having kids learn to work harder.. and to learn that failure is a part of life
Source on the Cardinals ...  
Beezer : 2/18/2020 10:53 am : link
a friend who works with the district on website/pubic info types of things.
Beez, you live in Binghamton...  
x meadowlander : 2/18/2020 10:56 am : link
...how the fuck do you NOT lead with THIS???

Back in my day  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2020 10:56 am : link
I used to walk 10 miles uphill in the snow to post on BBI.
In my town the HS just ditched our mascot.  
RobCrossRiver56 : 2/18/2020 10:57 am : link
Apparently, Indians is offensive.
The CA thing with the 'Stros  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2020 10:58 am : link
is from two little leagues in SoCal, probably run by Dodgers fans who believe they were cheated out of a title. Not saying it's right, but some context.
RE: In my town the HS just ditched our mascot.  
DanBenton : 2/18/2020 11:00 am : link
In comment 14813155 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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Apparently, Indians is offensive.


My former High School also changed its name from "Indians" to "Eagles" because the former was considered highly offensive.
When I was a pony ball coach...  
x meadowlander : 2/18/2020 11:04 am : link
...I changed my team name from Blue Jays to Bombers.

And the colors from powder blue to black and grey.


And I literally did field a comment about it sounding like a 'terrorist' name.
RE: Source on the Cardinals ...  
Mattman : 2/18/2020 11:05 am : link
In comment 14813146 Beezer said:
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a friend who works with the district on website/pubic info types of things.


I would think the district posting pubic information is more offensive.
Mattman  
lugnut : 2/18/2020 11:17 am : link
beat me to it.

Still doesn't top when I was a Capitol Hill reporter and one of the House committees put out a PR announcing a hearing on "pubic subsidies." But I Miller...
Beezer  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/18/2020 11:18 am : link
But my cats say birds are bad.
No problem with #1.....  
BillKo : 2/18/2020 11:29 am : link
......Astros are a black eye for MLB.

If I were president of a Little League and we had an Astros named team, I'd recommend changing it.
RE: Back in my day  
Gman11 : 2/18/2020 11:38 am : link
In comment 14813151 bceagle05 said:
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I used to walk 10 miles uphill in the snow to post on BBI.
Barefoot. Uphill both ways.
You don't need to point to the examples referenced by the OP..  
EricJ : 2/18/2020 11:45 am : link
parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
RE: Beez, you live in Binghamton...  
Beezer : 2/18/2020 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14813149 x meadowlander said:
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...how the fuck do you NOT lead with THIS???



Ha! Guess I didn't think of it in this category. Just, that it's bizarre AF.
RE: In my town the HS just ditched our mascot.  
Beezer : 2/18/2020 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14813155 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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Apparently, Indians is offensive.


Still lots of Indians in our region. The subject will come up here and there, years apart, usually spurred by a national flare-up (Redskins, Braves, that sort of thing), then local media outlets hound local school officials, who do their level best to duck and run. lol
RE: RE: Source on the Cardinals ...  
Beezer : 2/18/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14813166 Mattman said:
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In comment 14813146 Beezer said:


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a friend who works with the district on website/pubic info types of things.



I would think the district posting pubic information is more offensive.


Ha!

Yeah ... public.

TENtacles. TENtacles. N-T.
RE: You don't need to point to the examples referenced by the OP..  
Jim from Katonah : 2/18/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14813220 EricJ said:
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.


Yes, the horror of the too-soft, too-involved parents. When you say “go back to when ...,” what decade/era are you talking about? I bet some of the folks during that alleged golden period would disagree it was better.
Agree with a lot of this stuff and love the beez  
oghwga : 2/18/2020 12:07 pm : link
And think that over political correctness and social media is definitely a bad thing but the "pussification of america" thing and talking about how everyone has it too easy said on this board quite often is also dickish. If I had to assume I would say that most who harp the loudest about it here are white men (like me) who through no fault of our own have had it historically and generally easier than any other group in America.

We are already pussies based on the blessings of our birth.

It's still okay to carp about the special generation of social justice warriors who also have no clue about real hardships because they do make it more difficult to have a rational conversation about anything.

I'm not going to tell a native American whether they can or cannot find the word "Indian" offensive but sadly we're at the point where we can only be called a racist by their unappointed advocates when we merely ask the question.

Also just watched Steve Austin realign a nuclear bomb to correct the moons orbit and save the world. Good times.
Little league re Astros  
Shecky : 2/18/2020 12:21 pm : link
I couldn’t disagree more, I think that is sending an outstanding message to the youth. At least in my opinion. Get caught cheating, and no one will want to associate with you. Even if you won the World Series.
I get it. But it's a sports name.  
Beezer : 2/18/2020 12:23 pm : link
Donning that Little League uni doesn't make the kids cheaters. Maybe adults should teach kids THOSE sorts of things. That these were grown men behaving awfully. Has nothing at all to do with the laundry.

Protect the kiddies from the evil Astros! Oh boy.

Just my take.
RE: moving  
Shecky : 2/18/2020 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14813145 tator said:
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I hate it when kids go to a tough sports school and when they are not good enoughto make HS team The parents move to get them on a team at a diffrent and usually smaller HS.. instead of parents having kids learn to work harder.. and to learn that failure is a part of life


I’ve got mixed emotions on this one. Kid who isn’t kid enough, yeah parents holding him back a year or moving - doing absolutely nothing for the kid but harm. In those situations, I find it isn’t about the kids well being - but about the parents ego and Facebook posting.

But there’s a high school I know, insanely competitive every year, nationally ranked etc. know a good lefty pitcher, didn’t make the team. Now to put it in perspective. His senior season we are talking a 6’6” lefty. That alone should get you a spot on any HS team. Oh, also hit upper 80s. Not exactly draft quality, but the kid didn’t make his HS team!!! Was good enough to almost get a full ride to college though. Did. Not. Make his HS team... insanity at some of these schools...
New mascot to replace the Cardinal  
Tony in Tampa : 2/18/2020 12:51 pm : link
RE: I see no problem whatsoever with item 1  
MBavaro : 2/18/2020 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14813140 Greg from LI said:
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The cheaters can rot in hell.

And hey, RompHim went out of business, so all can't be lost, right?


Hey Mr. Pot, I have a Kettle you should meet....

Assuming you are a Yankee/Met fan, or quite frankly, a MLB fan in general.....
RE: You don't need to point to the examples referenced by the OP..  
x meadowlander : 2/18/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14813220 EricJ said:
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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.
That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?

Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.
The pussification  
KDubbs : 2/18/2020 1:00 pm : link
Is more that youre bothered by something that is so very small in the scheme of life
Disagree with #1 - That could simply be a teaching tool  
Matt M. : 2/18/2020 1:23 pm : link
But, #2 I wholeheartedly agree is problematic. How many logos that depict people or animals don't look a little angry? Gvie me a break.
RE: The pussification  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/18/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14813341 KDubbs said:
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Is more that youre bothered by something that is so very small in the scheme of life


Bingo.
RE: RE: You don't need to point to the examples referenced by the OP..  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/18/2020 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14813336 x meadowlander said:
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In comment 14813220 EricJ said:


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parents are the problem. A teacher cannot give a child a poor grade because the mother will come into school the next day trying to get that teacher fired.

If we can go back to when parents would smack their kids in the ass when needed... we may be in a different place today.

That's how the Baby Boomers were raised, right? The assholes who destroyed virtually ALL that was good in this country?

Fuck them and fuck their parenting advice. My 'politically correct' kids are killing it.


Well of course they are killing it, everyone gets trophies and A's duh.
this is probably the most overused  
UConn4523 : 2/18/2020 1:33 pm : link
cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
So where do  
gmenrule : 2/18/2020 1:33 pm : link
safe spaces, petting ponies, and trophies for "competing" enter the picture ? or doing away with grades because school is too stressful ? I don't even recognize mainstream America any more.
My son was an Eagle in HS, now he is a Cardinal in College.  
GiantsUA : 2/18/2020 1:34 pm : link
For one thing, the Eagles never had a losing record, the Cardinals are struggling.

All the shit in the environment is effecting testosterone levels, 2-3 generations ago D. Wade son would be spitting nails instead of doing his nails.

Back in my day...  
RC in MD : 2/18/2020 1:36 pm : link
you enjoyed being thrown into a basement dungeon hole. It built character.
RE: this is probably the most overused  
Matt M. : 2/18/2020 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14813392 UConn4523 said:
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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.
I would argue the exact opposite.
RE: RE: this is probably the most overused  
Matt M. : 2/18/2020 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14813400 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14813392 UConn4523 said:


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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.

I would argue the exact opposite.
And, I'd add that in some cases that's not necessarily a bad thing, as they are bothered by and taught to call out things that we were told to "get over" or ignore for generations.
RE: this is probably the most overused  
RC in MD : 2/18/2020 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14813392 UConn4523 said:
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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.


One of the funniest memes that I've seen lately:

Boomer: You snowflakes are a bunch of pussies.

Millennia: Ok, Boomer.

Boomer: That's like calling me an "n" word! I'm going to sue for discrimination!
It truly is incredible to listen to baby boomers  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2020 1:43 pm : link
bitch about younger generations. Baby boomers had every advantage known to man - born into a post-WWII booming American economy after their parents and grandparents endured the Great Depression and World Wars and handed them a country at the height of its powers. Low cost of living, low cost of education, social safety nets in place - I'd happily take all of those perks if it meant sacrificing my t-ball participation trophy.
Go to Twitter for a good time.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/18/2020 1:43 pm : link
It's absolutely astounding the whining and crying and complaining that our generation and younger does on there. It's hilarious.
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UConn4523 : 2/18/2020 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14813401 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14813400 Matt M. said:


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In comment 14813392 UConn4523 said:


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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.

I would argue the exact opposite.

And, I'd add that in some cases that's not necessarily a bad thing, as they are bothered by and taught to call out things that we were told to "get over" or ignore for generations.


Old men should stop calling kids pussies. In reality their problem is with these kids parents, otherwise known as THEIR CHILDREN.

When you are effectively calling your grandchildren pussies you are kinda glossing over the problem, part of which is you.
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Dave in Hoboken : 2/18/2020 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14813400 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14813392 UConn4523 said:


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cliched term i've ever heard of. The amount of things older people are bothered by is absolutely shocking.

I'd argue kids today have thicker skin then the generations older than them that are calling them pussies.

I would argue the exact opposite.


All one has to do is log on to Twitter to see that.
RE: Go to Twitter for a good time.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2020 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14813407 Dave in Hoboken said:
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It's absolutely astounding the whining and crying and complaining that our generation and younger does on there. It's hilarious.

If Twitter were around for the previous 50 years you'd be able to dig up the same whiny tweets from your parents and grandparents, I promise you.
RE: RE: Go to Twitter for a good time.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/18/2020 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14813412 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 14813407 Dave in Hoboken said:


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It's absolutely astounding the whining and crying and complaining that our generation and younger does on there. It's hilarious.


If Twitter were around for the previous 50 years you'd be able to dig up the same whiny tweets from your parents and grandparents, I promise you.


No chance. You must not log on to Twitter to see some of the things these folks whine and cry about.
I also get a kick out of people  
Mr. Bungle : 2/18/2020 1:50 pm : link
who find one isolated, obscure incident in a single school district and then extrapolate that nationally into some alleged "pussification of America."
Gen X says fuck you all to Boomers and Millennials alike  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 1:50 pm : link
You all suck
I'm on Twitter quite a bit.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2020 1:50 pm : link
How old is our president? I'm not trying to get the thread deleted, but he's in his 70s and whines on Twitter more than any teenager.
RE: Gen X says fuck you all to Boomers and Millennials alike  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/18/2020 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14813419 Greg from LI said:
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You all suck

Generation [Insert Yours Here] says fuck you to [Any/All of the others]
Dave in Hoboken  
UConn4523 : 2/18/2020 1:56 pm : link
this thread is proof that it would happen. My father, 65, bitches about everything. He complains about not being able to use his computer and social media, which makes it my problem. If I ever did teach him how to use it then he'd be right there on twitter bitching publicly. So I'm doing the world a favor and keeping him away from Twitter.

You are being delusional if you don't think the bitching would be the same if the tech existed 50 years ago.
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