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NGT- Panthers to allow teams to do a Physical on Cam Newton

jvm52106 : 2/19/2020 11:52 am
prior to new league year starting 03/18. Panthers seem pretty set on the moving away from Newton plan.
Cam Newton on the block - ( New Window )
rumors that I heard on the Dave Te  
Matt in SGS : 2/19/2020 11:59 am : link
podcast last night (he's back after a health scare and he sold his scouting company) is that the Panthers might make a move to sign Rivers for one or two years as a stopgap (he played at NC State). But the ultimate plan really is to tank it in 2020 for Trevor Lawrence in 2021. With Tepper and Rhule in place, they have a plan and it could be similar to the Cowboys tanking in 1989 with Jimmy Johnson.
RE: rumors that I heard on the Dave Te  
BigBlueShock : 2/19/2020 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14814083 Matt in SGS said:
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podcast last night (he's back after a health scare and he sold his scouting company) is that the Panthers might make a move to sign Rivers for one or two years as a stopgap (he played at NC State). But the ultimate plan really is to tank it in 2020 for Trevor Lawrence in 2021. With Tepper and Rhule in place, they have a plan and it could be similar to the Cowboys tanking in 1989 with Jimmy Johnson.

That’s a dangerous game. They are going to have plenty of teams tanking for Lawrence and most of them have far less talent than Carolina
Rather than use team doctors or trainers,  
Mad Mike : 2/19/2020 12:10 pm : link
most teams' "exam" will just be tossing a ball on the ground to see if he goes for it or jumps back like an elephant from a mouse. Magic 8 Ball isn't optimistic.
Tanking in today's NFL is very dangerous  
Chris684 : 2/19/2020 12:12 pm : link
especially for head coaches, whose seats start to get hot after 1 year (ask Steve Wilks).

So, the Panthers tank this year and suck. They draft Lawrence who plays pretty well in year one but the Panthers go something like 6-10 or 7-9?

Rhule is feeling heat at that point, no question.
and if Lawrence gets hurt?  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2020 12:19 pm : link
that's a dogshit plan but hey, whatever floats Teppers boat.
Rhule's getting paid no matter what  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2020 12:21 pm : link
and if Tepper is on board with that, he's going to have built in leeway. The bigger issue with that strategy is what happens when you don't get Lawrence? That's a fuckton of eggs to put in 1 basket.
RE: rumors that I heard on the Dave Te  
ZogZerg : 2/19/2020 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14814083 Matt in SGS said:
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podcast last night (he's back after a health scare and he sold his scouting company) is that the Panthers might make a move to sign Rivers for one or two years as a stopgap (he played at NC State). But the ultimate plan really is to tank it in 2020 for Trevor Lawrence in 2021. With Tepper and Rhule in place, they have a plan and it could be similar to the Cowboys tanking in 1989 with Jimmy Johnson.


How does signing Rivers for a year or two help with tanking 2020?
Right!!!!!  
GiantBlue : 2/19/2020 12:36 pm : link
How does signing Rivers for a year or two help with tanking 2020?

Maybe draft some guy in the 7th round or bring in Colt McCoy to tank...but Rivers can win some games with that team.

Agree completely.
RE: and if Lawrence gets hurt?  
Big Blue '56 : 2/19/2020 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14814108 UConn4523 said:
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that's a dogshit plan but hey, whatever floats Teppers boat.


This. For any team.
As soon..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2020 12:54 pm : link
as Newton was out for the remainder of the games, the Panthers were moving away from him. The only question is whether cam plays again or retires. I think he'll retire

I thought Olsen would retire and he didn't, so I'm probably going to be wrong here too.
I refuse ot beleive any owner would allow this to happen. I know  
Jack Stroud : 2/19/2020 1:46 pm : link
teams will do anything win,but losing intentionally is beyond the pale. How would a team tank, put unprepared players on the field and risk them getting injured or worse? How about a coach that did that, would they ever get another job? No, I don't see tanking as option!
Did..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2020 1:53 pm : link
Dallas tank with Jimmy Johnson or were they extremely fortuitous to pull off a mind-numbing trade with the Vikings??

The actual tank jobs you can point to in the NFL aren't that numerous and those teams that have a really terrible season usually need something extraordinary to intervene to make them immediately competitve.
RE: Did..  
jvm52106 : 2/19/2020 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14814221 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Dallas tank with Jimmy Johnson or were they extremely fortuitous to pull off a mind-numbing trade with the Vikings??

The actual tank jobs you can point to in the NFL aren't that numerous and those teams that have a really terrible season usually need something extraordinary to intervene to make them immediately competitve.


Dallas didn't tank they drafted Aikman #1 in 89. They played a team of very young players, getting rid of all of the last connections to Tom Landry. They then traded Walker in Oct of 89 for a TON of picks...
Consolation Prize  
Mark in ATL : 2/19/2020 2:17 pm : link
Justin Fields wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize if Carolina ended up with the second pick instead of the first.
Newton May be healthy now  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/19/2020 3:43 pm : link
It he won’t be all season. He’s also never worked on being a great QB. A bigger more polished Michael Vick. He’s not carrying a team. Carolina isn’t winning him. His window is shut. Maybe nailed shut at this point
RE: rumors that I heard on the Dave Te  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/20/2020 8:52 am : link
In comment 14814083 Matt in SGS said:
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podcast last night (he's back after a health scare and he sold his scouting company) is that the Panthers might make a move to sign Rivers for one or two years as a stopgap (he played at NC State). But the ultimate plan really is to tank it in 2020 for Trevor Lawrence in 2021. With Tepper and Rhule in place, they have a plan and it could be similar to the Cowboys tanking in 1989 with Jimmy Johnson.


Matt have a link to that Dave Te podcast? Thanks
RE: RE: rumors that I heard on the Dave Te  
Dankbeerman : 2/20/2020 8:53 am : link
In comment 14814127 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14814083 Matt in SGS said:


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podcast last night (he's back after a health scare and he sold his scouting company) is that the Panthers might make a move to sign Rivers for one or two years as a stopgap (he played at NC State). But the ultimate plan really is to tank it in 2020 for Trevor Lawrence in 2021. With Tepper and Rhule in place, they have a plan and it could be similar to the Cowboys tanking in 1989 with Jimmy Johnson.



How does signing Rivers for a year or two help with tanking 2020?


Why not just make a play for Burrow this year. Does Brady think Lawerence is that much better?

you would think McCaffery being ready to get a big contract should stop them from esentially giving up on 2 years.

Rhule has got the contract to allow him a couple years to tesr it down so we will see how it plays out.
Tanking  
Gruber : 2/20/2020 9:21 am : link
Miami were meant to be tanking for Tua and they ended up picking at #5.
Carolina will have competition for being the worst team in the NFL in 2020.
One of the biggest...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/20/2020 10:07 am : link
unknowns about Tepper is his patience level. He says all the right things about building a program and that taking time, but there have been a lot of cases of guys who are successful in the outside world who expect that success to translate to the NFL and that it can be achieved quickly.

With a new staff in place and a likely low finish, we'll see how he handles that situation.
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