ok...so how can it be removed without wiping out a good chunk of his season?
Blake Snell had surgery last year and missed about 8 weeks but got back before the end of the season for a "loose body". So maybe that's the route after he rests.
RE: RE: The Post cites a “loose body” around his elbow as the cause
ok...so how can it be removed without wiping out a good chunk of his season?
Blake Snell had surgery last year and missed about 8 weeks but got back before the end of the season for a "loose body". So maybe that's the route after he rests.
Hopefully that’s their course of action and he’s back around Memorial Day after an “extended spring training” regimen.
RE: well seeing as you guys would have cut up Tanaka's elbow
about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
RE: RE: RE: well seeing as you guys would have cut up Tanaka's elbow
about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
RE: RE: RE: RE: well seeing as you guys would have cut up Tanaka's elbow
about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
Better now than July. Get it fixed and get him back.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: well seeing as you guys would have cut up Tanaka's elbow
about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
Better now than July. Get it fixed and get him back.
As if he won't have another setback. This is Severino we're talking about here.
still be a short term thing. As noted Snell recently had this issue, DeGrom had elbow soreness 2 springs back. That being said they should look into a guy like McHugh as depth.
Severino hasn't had a sound arm since July 1, 2018
looks like a bargain because it was "only" 40 million guaranteed despite Severino being an "ace" but he had zero leverage (he was team controlled for 4 more when he signed it0
the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
.
I don't think so, just laying out the facts.
And Ahmad does suck, if you haven't been paying attention!
the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
.
I don't think so, just laying out the facts.
And Ahmad does suck, if you haven't been paying attention!
I really wasn't sure how you felt, but I needed to be sure..
but back then I also said he likely won’t repeat 2017 again. That seemed like an outlier season to me at the time and even more so now. I’ll be happy if he’s a 3.5 era pitcher moving forward.
We all wish and want Severino to be an ace but is he? Back in 18 for a moment he was maybe the best pitcher in the game. But that was for half a season and then he became pretty bad.
I have little faith in him but hope to be proven wrong. Our new young stud pitcher hopefully will be Clarke Schmidt.
This fucking blows. These pitchers are ticking time bombs. Gotta
have a truckload of them ready to contribute. We will see how Happ and Montgomery, perhaps eventfully German, hold up the back end of the rotation. I really don't want to see Cessa ever again, I guess now Loiasiga will get another crack as a starter. Time for Abreu, King, and Garcia to step up.
RE: This fucking blows. These pitchers are ticking time bombs. Gotta
have a truckload of them ready to contribute. We will see how Happ and Montgomery, perhaps eventfully German, hold up the back end of the rotation. I really don't want to see Cessa ever again, I guess now Loiasiga will get another crack as a starter. Time for Abreu, King, and Garcia to step up.
This is why the major overhaul of the Yanks pitching development program Cashman committed to this offseason is more important for the long game.
Yanks have been at the cutting edge of using analytics for roster and in game decision making for a while now. But they also now seem to be on the Rays path of using video to analyze pitchers’ motions to determine which guys are at greater risk of injury, and most importantly how they can develop guys to limit that risk.
Shit news about a Sevy. Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
....... Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
Was trying to find info on causes forearm tightness while pitching. Yes it seems this could be an indication that too much stress is being placed on the UCL.
What is causing this is the problem? According to what we have read, there is no visible damage by MRI. They can see tears and partial tears on MRIs but he apparently has none. Has his motion changed since the lat injury? Have the shoulder muscles been damaged so that increased strain is being placed on the elbow joint? Is there scar tissue in the lats or shoulder from last years injury restricting their function and shifting the strain downward in the arm?
RE: RE: RE: This fucking blows. These pitchers are ticking time bombs. Gotta
....... Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
Was trying to find info on causes forearm tightness while pitching. Yes it seems this could be an indication that too much stress is being placed on the UCL.
What is causing this is the problem? According to what we have read, there is no visible damage by MRI. They can see tears and partial tears on MRIs but he apparently has none. Has his motion changed since the lat injury? Have the shoulder muscles been damaged so that increased strain is being placed on the elbow joint? Is there scar tissue in the lats or shoulder from last years injury restricting their function and shifting the strain downward in the arm?
Given that it has been reported he has a "loose body" in his elbow (bone chip likely?) and the pain comes when he throws his change, I don't think any of the above would come into play.
Go in, have the exploratory surgery to remove the chip or whatever it is, make sure nothing else is going on, and rehab him until May.
Doesn't sound like a crisis- this happens with pitchers.
Ross Stripling is clearly available and the Yankees could do waaay worse
Problem is, now that teams know Yanks are in need of pitching, the price will go up in any trade. I like the idea of bringing in McHugh or a Marco Estrada
it was so important to sign another good arm to go with cole...season didnt even start and possibly down our number 2 and arguably are number 3 pitcher....I honestly dont think severino will ever be healthy...I hope iam wrong. Yanks may have to bring young devi Garcia up early to the show
RE: This fucking blows. These pitchers are ticking time bombs. Gotta
have a truckload of them ready to contribute. We will see how Happ and Montgomery, perhaps eventfully German, hold up the back end of the rotation. I really don't want to see Cessa ever again, I guess now Loiasiga will get another crack as a starter. Time for Abreu, King, and Garcia to step up.
I'd wait for the MRI; if they truly think loose body, I would think the best course of action would be to do arthroscopic surgery now, remove the body(s), and confirm no other damage exists. If this yields the best possible result of only a loose body, with serious rehab, he could be back on the mound in May or June, the latest. Anything more than that scenario and it's impossible to guess a timetable.
We are now down Paxton and Severino, for at least a little while. This puts a lot of pressure on Tanaka. He seems to rise to those expectations, but it will still likely be taxing on him and the residual effect will be a taxed bullpen if they are forced to go to their #6,7,8 starters.
Ross Stripling is clearly available and the Yankees could do waaay worse
Problem is, now that teams know Yanks are in need of pitching, the price will go up in any trade. I like the idea of bringing in McHugh or a Marco Estrada
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The Yankees have a pretty deep farm system and they should absolute use it to acquire a legitimate 4th type starting pitcher. The window to win is now. Do whatever is necessary
I wonder if a serious injury to Severino, coupled with Paxton
RP, ala Chad Green. He is not nor should he be considered a SP. Cessa is what he is, which is a good to very good long relief pitcher. Neither is a starting pitcher. But do not denigrate either of them.
Forearm tightness...
Yup, no doubt in my mind that he's done for the year now.
The injuries on this team are absolutely baffling, I've never seen anything like it.
Blake Snell had surgery last year and missed about 8 weeks but got back before the end of the season for a "loose body". So maybe that's the route after he rests.
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ok...so how can it be removed without wiping out a good chunk of his season?
Blake Snell had surgery last year and missed about 8 weeks but got back before the end of the season for a "loose body". So maybe that's the route after he rests.
Hopefully that’s their course of action and he’s back around Memorial Day after an “extended spring training” regimen.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
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about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
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about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
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about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
Better now than July. Get it fixed and get him back.
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about 5 years ago I think I'll be a little patient as we likely find out this is regular spring training crap.
Not a spring training thing. It is being reported that it’s something he felt in his last start against the Astros.
This is what concerns me. If the team knew about this in October, did they do anything with Severino to monitor it in the offseason? And as for Sevy, wasn’t he throwing at some point while he was away training? He didn’t experience any discomfort then?
Supposedly he was cleared after having an MRI and hasn’t felt it again until last night
Better now than July. Get it fixed and get him back.
As if he won't have another setback. This is Severino we're talking about here.
Spring Training just starting and we have already lost Sevy and Pax.
This shit is getting ridiculous.
You can look at his game log and see the turn.
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You can look at his game log and see the turn. B Ref - ( New Window )
Severino didn't sign a "bargain" deal. Nola signed for 4 for 45 despite having one less year of arbitration.
Severino didn't sign a "bargain" deal. Nola signed for 4 for 45 despite having one less year of arbitration.
If Severino thought he was the pitcher he was in the first half of 2018, he would not have signed the deal.
The virtually unanimous reaction on this board among Yankee fans, when he signed the deal, was that it was a fantastic bargain.
BTW, I was typing my previous post when you were posting yours. It was not directed at your comment.
Forearm tightness...
Hmmmmm.....maybe all the injuries last year weren't the fault of the training staff?
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
Carson53 is A-Rod.
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the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
I don't think so, just laying out the facts.
And Ahmad does suck, if you haven't been paying attention!
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Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
Carson53 is A-Rod.
Not quite, not a diva myself.
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the team physician out of here, he sucks big time!
He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Everybody that Cashman has bet on to stay healthy,
he has been wrong about. 1)He trades for Paxton, he was wrong there.
2)Gives Hicks a SEVEN year deal, very wrong.
3)Gives Severino a four year extension, wrong again.
In baseball parlance, that is three strikes and 'yer out.
It wouldn't surprise me if Severino will need surgery eventually,
they tested him TWICE in the offseason and found nothing wrong?
Hmm, just a little over the top reaction..
.
I don't think so, just laying out the facts.
And Ahmad does suck, if you haven't been paying attention!
I really wasn't sure how you felt, but I needed to be sure..
Its throwing the same high speed in the 6-7th as the 2nd inning so many games when young.
A workload Joe Torre would have supported. But before Paxton and German they needed someone to do that.
I agree...bullpen trade coming up
If any other team had this roster he'd be elevated to god status
I have little faith in him but hope to be proven wrong. Our new young stud pitcher hopefully will be Clarke Schmidt.
This is why the major overhaul of the Yanks pitching development program Cashman committed to this offseason is more important for the long game.
Yanks have been at the cutting edge of using analytics for roster and in game decision making for a while now. But they also now seem to be on the Rays path of using video to analyze pitchers’ motions to determine which guys are at greater risk of injury, and most importantly how they can develop guys to limit that risk.
Shit news about a Sevy. Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
So we are blaming the GM for injuries? Holy shit.
....... Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
Was trying to find info on causes forearm tightness while pitching. Yes it seems this could be an indication that too much stress is being placed on the UCL.
What is causing this is the problem? According to what we have read, there is no visible damage by MRI. They can see tears and partial tears on MRIs but he apparently has none. Has his motion changed since the lat injury? Have the shoulder muscles been damaged so that increased strain is being placed on the elbow joint? Is there scar tissue in the lats or shoulder from last years injury restricting their function and shifting the strain downward in the arm?
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....... Everyone wondering if he’ll ever turn into a durable starter is asking fair questions. Hoping for the best, but we all know forearm strain is often a precursor for TJS.
I just hope the Yanks can better avoid seeing this happen as often to their young big arms in the future.
Was trying to find info on causes forearm tightness while pitching. Yes it seems this could be an indication that too much stress is being placed on the UCL.
What is causing this is the problem? According to what we have read, there is no visible damage by MRI. They can see tears and partial tears on MRIs but he apparently has none. Has his motion changed since the lat injury? Have the shoulder muscles been damaged so that increased strain is being placed on the elbow joint? Is there scar tissue in the lats or shoulder from last years injury restricting their function and shifting the strain downward in the arm?
Given that it has been reported he has a "loose body" in his elbow (bone chip likely?) and the pain comes when he throws his change, I don't think any of the above would come into play.
Go in, have the exploratory surgery to remove the chip or whatever it is, make sure nothing else is going on, and rehab him until May.
Doesn't sound like a crisis- this happens with pitchers.
Problem is, now that teams know Yanks are in need of pitching, the price will go up in any trade. I like the idea of bringing in McHugh or a Marco Estrada
Cessa and Looasiga are garbage
For the record, I am not a fan of Loaisiga.
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Ross Stripling is clearly available and the Yankees could do waaay worse
Problem is, now that teams know Yanks are in need of pitching, the price will go up in any trade. I like the idea of bringing in McHugh or a Marco Estrada
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Cessa and Looasiga are garbage
Loaisiga is garbage? LOL. OK, nice take.