Some added details on CBA being voted on by players today:
—Playoff expansion is pretty much tied to CBA approval. So likely no expansion this year if players don’t approve the deal.
—17th game wouldn’t be an international game for every team. Would be a cap on total intl games.
—Teams would now be able to activate a third player off IR during the season
—Teams could shuttle a few players from the practice squad (which expands to 14 players in 2022) to the active roster and back without having to waive them
—Though player discipline for off-field violations would be heard by a neutral arbitrator, appeals would go to the commissioner.
—The league would still conduct their own independent investigations into such matters.
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Regarding CBA players vote on today.
Rosters would increase to 48 players from 46 on gameday, with overall rosters going to 55 from 53; practice squads would increase to 14 players in 2022, and 12 this year, up from 10.
Teams would be allowed to bring back 3 players from IR.
This.
And what's stunning is they don't seem to understand that sometimes LESS is MORE.
You can oversaturate the market.
Yes.
@AdamSchefter
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Regarding CBA players vote on today.
Rosters would increase to 48 players from 46 on gameday, with overall rosters going to 55 from 53; practice squads would increase to 14 players in 2022, and 12 this year, up from 10.
Teams would be allowed to bring back 3 players from IR.
I do like this.
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all the symmetry of 16 games and 32 teams goes poof.
This.
And what's stunning is they don't seem to understand that sometimes LESS is MORE.
You can oversaturate the market.
And, they're been in saturated territory for a number of years with all the insane costs and PSLs to attend games. At some point, the fan base WILL stop paying the money.
Not to mention, streaming access, all-22, RedZone, the directv package. The UFC is following the same blueprint and making many of the same mistakes.
If they agree to more games, more international games in international time zones, more practices, more hitting, etc, the players are essentially enabling the owners to put their health more at risk. And the players should never utter a word again about safety..
Doubt it. Outside of CBA mandated penalties for PEDs/substance abuse, how many suspensions are even given out by the Commish each year? 5 is probably high and I can't imagine the other 1890+ players caring much about those 5...
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In comment 14815513 JonC said:
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all the symmetry of 16 games and 32 teams goes poof.
This.
And what's stunning is they don't seem to understand that sometimes LESS is MORE.
You can oversaturate the market.
And, they're been in saturated territory for a number of years with all the insane costs and PSLs to attend games. At some point, the fan base WILL stop paying the money.
Not to mention, streaming access, all-22, RedZone, the directv package. The UFC is following the same blueprint and making many of the same mistakes.
Attending games is arguably saturated, but that's probably why the 17th game will be an "international" (London, Mexico, other?) game.
Doubt the die-hards paying for all-22/redzone would balk if prices go up a couple $$ a year anyway (they probably are anyway, especially the DirectTV package under ATT).
Profit is the goal of every business. No profit, the business ceases to exist.
More practice time in preseason won't make any difference. Why the play in the beginning of the season is uneven is because the starters are still adjusting to playing a full 60 minutes coming off a preseason where they played sparingly. You can't replicate the pace of a regular season game to a preseason game or practice.
Except according to Garofalo, as quoted in Eric's post, they wouldn't all be international. He seems to think half the league will get a 9th home game, with the international games continuing as they are now, with some relatively small number of teams playing a home game internationally.
Well, it's never been easier to be a QB in the NFL.
So exposure to additional games is considerably less about QBs, and much more about players on the OL, DL, LB. Positions where there is a collision on every play.
Is this an attempt by the the NFL to keep the marginal players out of the XFL?
And therein lies the debate - one extra game of compensation versus an extra game of exposure that can end a career completely.
I remember hating it when they went from 14 to 16 games for similar reasons. But now at this point the game has changed so much anyway that 16 to 17 is far less dramatic and doesn’t feel like it would be the difference in preserving anything. I’d prefer not, but I’m kind of meh about it at this point.
In the long run, the changes could help OL play. 6 extra roster spots (2 full time + 4 PS), means more depth continually practicing and if guys get hurt, that means live action for that depth to use to get up to NFL speed.
More football is a good thing in my book
it would only be symmetrical if you played every team twice.
The system will be the same as it is now, with the addition of one more same record out of division game.
and let's not forget player safety
So only players with salary under $4.25 million are getting a full 1/17th raise? Or am I misunderstanding? I'll have to do some looking and see how many players that is.
So only players with salary under $4.25 million are getting a full 1/17th raise? Or am I misunderstanding? I'll have to do some looking and see how many players that is.
No, you're understanding correctly. Higher earning guys won't get a full pro-rata increase.
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In comment 14815513 JonC said:
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all the symmetry of 16 games and 32 teams goes poof.
This.
And what's stunning is they don't seem to understand that sometimes LESS is MORE.
You can oversaturate the market.
And, they're been in saturated territory for a number of years with all the insane costs and PSLs to attend games. At some point, the fan base WILL stop paying the money.
Not to mention, streaming access, all-22, RedZone, the directv package. The UFC is following the same blueprint and making many of the same mistakes.
The fans are not at the top of the owners' list of concerns. TV revenues put the real money in their pockets, and those will continue to rise. Add in money from streaming rights, and the fans' contribution becomes an even smaller percentage of the pie.
I agree. Increase revenues and margins on the backs of the widgets...errr...players.