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Samiam : 2/22/2020 12:24 pm
If the worst team in the Premier League played the best team in the MLS, who would win? I like to watch soccer but clearly don’t understand the game.
EPL  
GF1080 : 2/22/2020 12:27 pm : link
Most likely the worst Prem team but in one match anything can happen. MLS is more on the level of the Championship which is the second league in England but even then those teams would probably win.
I think it’s closer than you think  
UConn4523 : 2/22/2020 12:34 pm : link
.
Premier league teams  
RAIN : 2/22/2020 12:52 pm : link
Would smash MLS.

MLS is getting better and is fun to watch however.
Premier League is the best league in the world, they would beat any  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2020 1:08 pm : link
team in the MLS. English Championship is also a top 10 league in teh world, and those teams are also better than the best MLS team. MLS is more like League One in England.
If the players in the MLS were good enough, they’d be in Europe.  
Spider56 : 2/22/2020 1:39 pm : link
To me, the analogy is asking if the best team in the XFL
can beat the worst in the NFL .... I don’t think so.
RE: If the players in the MLS were good enough, they’d be in Europe.  
UConn4523 : 2/22/2020 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14816221 Spider56 said:
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To me, the analogy is asking if the best team in the XFL
can beat the worst in the NFL .... I don’t think so.


That isn’t really true. The EPL has direct access to their own talent in their own country, something difficult for Americans to have the same opportunity to do. You’d essentially need all top US players to stop playing here, forget playing HS soccer and prepping for college, and move to the UK for it to maybe work out. That likely includes also having their family move there too.
leagues are not close  
mdthedream : 2/22/2020 1:53 pm : link
MLS is so slow and bad. It is where the old guys go when they are done.
MLS is not even close  
Rick in Dallas : 2/22/2020 2:02 pm : link
To the worst team in the EPL.
In baseball terms they are single A compared to the EPL.
I cannot watch an entire MLS game on TV.
RE: RE: If the players in the MLS were good enough, they’d be in Europe.  
Spider56 : 2/22/2020 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14816223 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14816221 Spider56 said:


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To me, the analogy is asking if the best team in the XFL
can beat the worst in the NFL .... I don’t think so.



That isn’t really true. The EPL has direct access to their own talent in their own country, something difficult for Americans to have the same opportunity to do. You’d essentially need all top US players to stop playing here, forget playing HS soccer and prepping for college, and move to the UK for it to maybe work out. That likely includes also having their family move there too.


I was referring to the quality of MSL players vs the broader European leagues; the 1st (or even 2nd) divisions in Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Scotland, etc vs just the EPL. The USA player development models are still years behind the ROW.
a whole, not just the EPL
Most of the subjective rankings I have seen  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2020 2:07 pm : link
put MLS somewhere around #20 in the world (give or take). So in line with the top leagues in places like Denmark, Turkey, etc. Premier league is usually #1, with top leagues like Spain, Germany, and Italy right behind. The English Championship is usually around 10 give or take.
Samiam - this thread I started the other week  
Del Shofner : 2/22/2020 2:07 pm : link
is relevant to your inquiry.

ranking soccer leagues worldwide - ( New Window )
lol -  
Del Shofner : 2/22/2020 2:08 pm : link
or confirming what Paterson Plank said.
MLS is way below the Premier League  
Oscar : 2/22/2020 2:25 pm : link
One off game who knows, anything could happen. But the worst team in the Premier League would win MLS and the best team in MLS would get relegated in the Premier League. The level is just much lower overall. I have a season ticket for NYCFC and it’s honestly jarring to watch when you see a Premier League game in the morning and then watch MLS the same day, the drop off is tremendous.

There are many times at MLS games I wonder why I am paying to watch it.
RE: Premier League is the best league in the world, they would beat any  
nyballa0891 : 2/22/2020 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14816207 PatersonPlank said:
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team in the MLS. English Championship is also a top 10 league in teh world, and those teams are also better than the best MLS team. MLS is more like League One in England.


Idk about best league in the world, think la liga has always been better imo..premier league just gets more publicity here. But agree that a bottom table epl team would beat the best MLS team
RE: RE: Premier League is the best league in the world, they would beat any  
GF1080 : 2/22/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14816266 nyballa0891 said:
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In comment 14816207 PatersonPlank said:


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team in the MLS. English Championship is also a top 10 league in teh world, and those teams are also better than the best MLS team. MLS is more like League One in England.



Idk about best league in the world, think la liga has always been better imo..premier league just gets more publicity here. But agree that a bottom table epl team would beat the best MLS team


La Liga has no depth. The EPL type of soccer would wear down La Liga players also. The speed in La Liga would rip up EPL though so it's all very interesting.
The PL does very well in UEFA Champions League  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2020 4:18 pm : link
both MC and Liverpool are just as good as any top team in the world, this year Liverpool is probably the clear #1. However the real strength of the PL is the depth. Even the bottom teams are good. La Liga, and others, just don't have the top to bottom depth of the PL in my opinion
RE: The PL does very well in UEFA Champions League  
nyballa0891 : 2/22/2020 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14816308 PatersonPlank said:
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both MC and Liverpool are just as good as any top team in the world, this year Liverpool is probably the clear #1. However the real strength of the PL is the depth. Even the bottom teams are good. La Liga, and others, just don't have the top to bottom depth of the PL in my opinion


I think an argument could definitely be made either way, especially now that liverpool won champions last year. I just feel imo that the PL has always been overrated.

For example Liverpool has yet to lose in the premier league (theyve won all of their games but one), but has lost to Napoli who currently sit 6th in Italy, and Atletico who currently sit at 5th in Spain. Tottenham just dropped to Leipzig at home. I’m not convinced yet, but we’ll see I guess.
RE: RE: The PL does very well in UEFA Champions League  
PatersonPlank : 2/22/2020 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14816340 nyballa0891 said:
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In comment 14816308 PatersonPlank said:


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both MC and Liverpool are just as good as any top team in the world, this year Liverpool is probably the clear #1. However the real strength of the PL is the depth. Even the bottom teams are good. La Liga, and others, just don't have the top to bottom depth of the PL in my opinion



I think an argument could definitely be made either way, especially now that liverpool won champions last year. I just feel imo that the PL has always been overrated.

For example Liverpool has yet to lose in the premier league (theyve won all of their games but one), but has lost to Napoli who currently sit 6th in Italy, and Atletico who currently sit at 5th in Spain. Tottenham just dropped to Leipzig at home. I’m not convinced yet, but we’ll see I guess.


Tottenham lost their 2 forwards, one of which is arguably their best player (Kane).
Side Note:  
Gene : 2/22/2020 10:50 pm : link
Looks like Barkley, Engram Jones & Shepard are in Brazil on a vacation. Here's a link showing them having a good time before a Flamengo match.


Link - ( New Window )
EE looks like he had a rough night,  
Spider56 : 2/23/2020 8:59 am : link
and still in a walking boot.
Norwich (bottom team in the Prem) is far better than any MLS team  
dpinzow : 2/23/2020 11:16 am : link
and would easily win MLS if they played a full season here. Most of the teams in the top half of the English Championship (2nd division) would also be the top team in MLS.

No MLS team has ever won the CONCACAF Champions League, which is the comparison between MLS teams and Liga MX, a stronger league than MLS but also not on the Prem's level
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