Here is a particularly bad article. I’ve followed the pressers today and DG and JJ make it clear that they are not discussing individual players and are focusing on open competition, for many reasons.
With that, the headlines is, “ Giants’ Dave Gettleman, Joe Judge refuse to commit to Daniel Jones as franchise QB | Could he be traded? What would it cost?”
And the article discusses Gettleman’s commitment to DJ as “tepid at best”, noting that the Gmen have not met Tua, but are evaluating QBs, which may both be true but say nothing of note.
I know it’s lying season but this strikes me as one of the most glaringly misleading articles I’ve read in a while.
Lonk - (
New Window )
We Giants fans love you more than you will know.
Woah, woah, woah.
If Judge has the conviction that Tua is the next Drew Brees and that Jones is not THE guy, then it is something you have to consider. Period.
me too Spider - what a yellow journalist
Will it happen?
Doubtful.
There is NO way the Giants hired a coach who wasn't a believer in Daniel Jones! None, zero, zilch! Put it to bed.
What Judge is saying is, why would I say there is an open, clear slate while in public talking about this player or that. He is setting the tone that all will be held responsible and will need to prove themselves. This is a great move and a smart move.
Many here complained for the last few years that Eli kind of got a free pass on his play and not held to the same standards as others. Judge is doing just that here, all will be held the same. Yes, at some point DJ is the starter and SB is the starter but, for now all will be held with the same expectations.
30% of BBI could do a better job then this idiot.
Hey, he gave us the chance to see for ourselves. Maybe you will agree with Lombardo(probably not). Your choice.
No, they're not likely enough to spend time discussing them.
I haven't read the article, but I get that sometimes you're going in looking to see or hear something, and when you don't, you flag that as significant. I covered Arnold Schwarzenegger's election night rally in 2004, when he was running for re-election. Notably absent from the room: Bush-Cheney signs. So I reported in my story that the room lacked any signs for the national ticket.
But I didn't ask in my story: "Could Arnold Schwarzenegger have secretly supported John Kerry?" You report what's notable by its absence and avoid speculation. But that was before the clickbait era. I may be a dinosaur that way.
“There are a lot of good players in this draft,” Gettleman said.
Do you think there is a QB in this draft that is better than DJ?
I'm not arguing here I myself don't see it given what DJ did minus the fumbles. I'm curious who would be the one given that Burrows will be gone
Yup!
Giants raising uncertainty about Daniel Jones, but to what end? - ( New Window )
Who is it by? Want to know who else to avoid.
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But with a little more nuance... Giants raising uncertainty about Daniel Jones, but to what end? - ( New Window )
Who is it by? Want to know who else to avoid.
“New coach Joe Judge still won’t even utter the quarterback’s name”
By Ed Valentine on February 25, 2020 2:34 pm
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based on the comments, today. I listened to the pressers and with the non-committal to any player/depth chart. I interpreted it as a motivational tool for both players and coaches. But what piqued my ears was the mention of no sacred cows. Woah! I began using the zero scholarship/no sacred cows euphemism towards the end of last season when it was apparent that a new staff would be brought in. We were in the midst of an 8 game losing streak captained by our very own Danny Boy in position to pick #2. There were a number of discussions clamoring for Young, but Go Terps picked up on my No Sacred Cows mantra and ran with it. The idea was that the new staff shouldn't be forced to work with any players they didn't see fit and picking as high as we were positioned at the time, it would be a dereliction of their duties if they didn't consider QB with all other positions.
Do you think there is a QB in this draft that is better than DJ?
I'm not arguing here I myself don't see it given what DJ did minus the fumbles. I'm curious who would be the one given that Burrows will be gone
I don't. But the exercise at the time is that the new staff shouldn't be hamstrung with any specific players. We were terrible with them. We can be terrible without them. If the new staff wanted to trade Barkley, then so be it. I lost all personal attachment to any of these players. The whole Sacred Cows mantra was that they all can be sent to slaughter (traded/cut).
He is trying to change the losing culture and is doing so by putting forth the idea that its TEAM FIRST. I think that is refreshing and a great approach to taking over this team.
This does not mean he doesn't like JJ, it means that he wants them all working together with no one being more important than anyone else
And some of you are actually discussing this Horseshit?
Wow, just wow!!
Absolutely!
No one expects them to draft a QB but if there is a 5-10% possibility in the mind of a team drafting behind us...its a windfall.
They privately tell DJ to hang tough we are playing this out...they use the JJ Im new everyone prove it to me. They get Garrett to meet with several QB's between now and then. They bring in 1-2 for private workouts and send out a happy all smiles photo op
This is exactly what you should hope for as a NYG fan. This is what FO do.
If they sense any breeze of interest from slots 5-8...then expect more PR not less.
You want them to drum up another 2nd or another 1st from smoke and mirrors.
If Jones were to become available for trade, there would be at least a few teams that would inquire about him.
No one expects them to draft a QB but if there is a 5-10% possibility in the mind of a team drafting behind us...its a windfall.
They privately tell DJ to hang tough we are playing this out...they use the JJ Im new everyone prove it to me. They get Garrett to meet with several QB's between now and then. They bring in 1-2 for private workouts and send out a happy all smiles photo op
This is exactly what you should hope for as a NYG fan. This is what FO do.
If they sense any breeze of interest from slots 5-8...then expect more PR not less.
You want them to drum up another 2nd or another 1st from smoke and mirrors.
This. And it would be a welcome change for our FO, for a change, to create an advantage for itself in the draft.
I also view this as a good sign. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. For all anyone knows, maybe the Giants are interested in trading up for Burrow. Anything that obfuscates their true intentions and possibly drives someone to make a trade pushing down a non-QB they're interested in is a good thing.
They are better off if other NFL teams think QB could be in play at #4, simple as that.
We Giants fans love you more than you will know.
Woah, woah, woah.
Perfect.
Yeah...no.
EXACTLY!
There is NO way anyone who listened to the interviews could come to Lombardo's conclusion. The article is intended to draw in those who didn't watch.
It doesn't make any sense to trade DJ, even if you think Tua may have a higher ceiling. You don't trade a proven commodity for an untested college player coming off a serious injury. (Fumbles can be cured; ask Tiki.)
Besides, on one hand as JJ said, this is a young team and a lot of these players with good coaching can make considerable improvement.
On the other hand, there are real holes that DG/PS/Bettcher tried filling with vets that I think JJ will replace with more youngsters. The NYG can't afford to waste a high draft pick on re-loading the QB position. JJ's vision is clearly beyond this next season.
Re DG paying attention to QBs - DJ needs a backup and I wouldn't put it past JJ/DG to be looking in the middle rounds for someone they can evaluate and develop this year (a la Garoppola) with Tanney or another low cost vet as insurance in 2020. (They have Garoppola's mentor on board.)
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Bill Belichick, but it is strange - maybe even very strange - that he is treating DG's most critical investment as a widget.
Yeah...no.
You’re not really surprised bw is taking this angle, are you?