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I think DGs problem is that he realizes the

NYRiese : 2/25/2020 8:43 pm
fact that fans (BBI) are much more heavily invested EMOTIONALLY in the fortunes of the team and that the media is more heavily invested in career and employment opportunities in the progress of the team.

While the Giant management is just trying to go about its cold hard evaluation, assumptions, and suppositions on the state and progress of the team as best it can; an estimate of the performance/$ cost ratio of the 53 present and future players.

And so he tries to explain his attitude in his own way but the audience as per the above doesn't like it.
I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
Default : 2/25/2020 8:45 pm : link
He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.
Talk about EMOTION!  
NYRiese : 2/25/2020 8:52 pm : link
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RE: I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/25/2020 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14819177 Default said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.
Get off Reese's dick
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montanagiant : 2/25/2020 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14819195 Paulie Walnuts said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick

LOL...So true
RE: I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
section125 : 2/25/2020 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14819177 Default said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.


So are you. So kindly unregister, and stop posting.
looking forward to a time  
Giantsfan79 : 2/25/2020 9:01 pm : link
when the Giants will create BBI sticky polls to help them make decisions, what can go wrong when you let the emotional fans make decisions?
RE: I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
bLiTz 2k : 2/25/2020 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14819177 Default said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.


Go the fuck away
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montanagiant : 2/25/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14819202 section125 said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.



So are you. So kindly unregister, and stop posting.

No, we need to keep him so he can defend the XFL's shittiest uniforms..lol
RE: looking forward to a time  
PetesHereNow : 2/25/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14819203 Giantsfan79 said:
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when the Giants will create BBI sticky polls to help them make decisions, what can go wrong when you let the emotional fans make decisions?


I’m not falling for this banana in a tailpipe scenario again. Last time, I spent 4 hours clicking on a Giants helmet on Warren Sapp’s website, he signed with the Raiders and all we got was carpal tunnel.
RE: RE: I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
superspynyg : 2/25/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14819195 Paulie Walnuts said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick


He IS Jerry Reese!
You guys are great  
Default : 2/25/2020 9:12 pm : link
:)
Being a Dinosaur myself  
Buzzard64 : 2/25/2020 9:50 pm : link
I take exception to your comment. You got a problem with Old Guys ? Don't mess with the Old Dogs, they fight mean and have nothing to lose to Pups like you.
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Gatorade Dunk : 2/25/2020 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14819198 montanagiant said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick


LOL...So true

It could be that they both suck. I know binary scenarios are easier to understand, so I get why you'd prefer to frame it this way, but there's a whole range of scenarios, many of which include them both being the wrong GM. I know there's no concrete evidence for you, so you haven't landed on those possibilities yet, but you'll get there. Looking forward to your victory lap when you do.
RE: Being a Dinosaur myself  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/25/2020 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14819270 Buzzard64 said:
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I take exception to your comment. You got a problem with Old Guys ? Don't mess with the Old Dogs, they fight mean and have nothing to lose to Pups like you.

In case you were wondering who inspired the "ok boomer" meme...
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montanagiant : 2/25/2020 11:03 pm : link
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick


LOL...So true


It could be that they both suck. I know binary scenarios are easier to understand, so I get why you'd prefer to frame it this way, but there's a whole range of scenarios, many of which include them both being the wrong GM. I know there's no concrete evidence for you, so you haven't landed on those possibilities yet, but you'll get there. Looking forward to your victory lap when you do.

The only way to tell is to give DG the same timeframe as JR. But that won't fit your agenda so instead, you'll play make-believe and adjust it to the angle of your argument whether factual or not.

I'm taking my victory lap now while you run to another thread and play this game
Gettleman would be better served dropping the  
jcn56 : 2/25/2020 11:08 pm : link
schtick. He's not funny, and all too often ends up either immediately sounding like an idiot or providing sound bites/quotes that make him sound like an idiot after the fact.

That's one thing about most of what Judge says (minus the weird PB&J analogy) - it's not going to be played back against him in the future.
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Gatorade Dunk : 2/25/2020 11:12 pm : link
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick


LOL...So true


It could be that they both suck. I know binary scenarios are easier to understand, so I get why you'd prefer to frame it this way, but there's a whole range of scenarios, many of which include them both being the wrong GM. I know there's no concrete evidence for you, so you haven't landed on those possibilities yet, but you'll get there. Looking forward to your victory lap when you do.


The only way to tell is to give DG the same timeframe as JR. But that won't fit your agenda so instead, you'll play make-believe and adjust it to the angle of your argument whether factual or not.

I'm taking my victory lap now while you run to another thread and play this game

I don't have an agenda. I have a fucking brain and my patience is wearing thin with this fucking blowhard at the helm.
Well I'm sure the Mara's will be  
montanagiant : 2/25/2020 11:15 pm : link
Very upset to hear that.
Gettleman...  
Brown_Hornet : 2/25/2020 11:45 pm : link
...will be fine.
I dunno GD  
Bill2 : 2/25/2020 11:58 pm : link
I try to double check my own leanings and make the opposite argument every once in a while

We both agree this is a bad time for NYG football. We both agree it has gone on too long.

We both agree his mouth in front of the media is just not up to par.

We may not like him but the key questions are:

Should he be saddled with the size of the blame he is often assigned?

Was someone else better?

Those are questions I don't know the answer to.

These GM jobs are loaded with post decision looking mistakes. That's true of the many many bad calls on talents and drafting that BB has made for one example. Ditto Polian and Elway and Ozzie Newcome

I think we need to assume 50% is going to be the call average over time. But the memorable GM's all made some big calls they got right.

This guys history is attached to a lot of positive outcomes both before he went to Carolina. Certainly the Carolina job contained some positive outcomes.

As for his time here:

Imo, the whole FO and ownership got the Eli decline timing and contract and team build up and OBJ contract call wrong. I don't know when the grudge for that runs out for most fans but at this point its an emotional grudge and feels silly to me. Its a sport. It shouldn't have that much purchase on our enjoyment of life

1) He did call the OBJ trade right. As time goes on that was the correct call. And absent a contract he was not tradeable.

2) Time has shown he got decent value overall for Vernon, Snacks, Collins, and a few others.

3) The book on DJ is not yet written and that will matter a lot

4) He appears to be full oar in the water recruiting and helping JJ. That also has to play out.

From what I can tell, he has pushed the organizations capabilities and rigor further ahead

I don't think whatever happens with Williams will satisfy the easy criticism. That also has to play out on the field until the emotions can match a more proven (and DT is a very hard position to "prove") pay vs performance.

Like any GM there are clear head scratcher selections and contracts where the player has not performed.

I suspect Shurmur was the 4 or 5th choice and time was late to select a good staff. I also don't know how much PS was a Mara selection after being turned down by the two prior candidates who were offered the job.

Where I come out when I look at the whole sweeping story is a fear that we are now torturing data to support an emotion. When we do that we no longer see clearly.

Lastly, unfortunately, we are going to have to be patient a long year ahead. I think the signs are not going to be the record but rather if we win some games we were not supposed to because we adjusted in game or had a game plan that knocked off a better team. If DJ can be average in his second year but carry the full load (not the safe limitations of his baby steps year under PS) and cut turnovers in year two.

Will this years FA/draft play out well? Going to need a whole year to tell that. Connecting every bump in a development road to DG is not good analysis or fun to read

Im not sensing that unknowable factoids, time still inconclusive DG hate is a focus applied to the right important indicators in 2020.

Its a hard time to be a fan and I don't know that many DG assessments are properly sized reasons for the disappointment and I sure don't think further DG parsing at this time is the leading indicator of where we will be in 2021.

But that's where I am coming out. Its just a site, so freedom does reign
by "tradeable"  
Bill2 : 2/26/2020 12:01 am : link
I mean for as much in return if under a contract. I don't mean no value in return
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FatMan in Charlotte : 2/26/2020 10:15 am : link
In comment 14819195 Paulie Walnuts said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick


Evaluating a GM is the least of his mental gaps. Shitting on Barkley every chance he can is really what highlights his lack of intelligence.

Calling Barkley a mediocre back who avoids contact might be the single most ridiculous thing I've read here, yet this fucking moron says it over and over again.
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Default : 2/26/2020 11:08 am : link
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.

Get off Reese's dick



Evaluating a GM is the least of his mental gaps. Shitting on Barkley every chance he can is really what highlights his lack of intelligence.

Calling Barkley a mediocre back who avoids contact might be the single most ridiculous thing I've read here, yet this fucking moron says it over and over again.


And you’re a fucking stalker.

If you’re going to paraphrase me at least do it correctly.
I think he’s mediocre, but I never said he avoids contact, my biggest issue is he can’t pass block for shit.

So maybe go back to your Rolodex of people you stalk and find the right person with that take you stupid piece of shit.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/26/2020 11:11 am : link
So I'm a stupid piece of shit as you double down on calling Barkley mediocre??

So fucking rich.
DG has no problem  
uther99 : 2/26/2020 7:28 pm : link
he is playing with house money, he just beat a horrible disease, has made a ton of money in his career, could retire tomorrow if he wanted. He is having fun his way.
RE: I think his problem is that he is in over his head.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/26/2020 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14819177 Default said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.


I suppose you and the rest of these armchair managers know how to build this team right? You have your thumb on the pulse of the modern NFL right?

The professionals are certainly not infallible but I get tired of a bunch of dimwits drinking beer in their underpants raging about this stuff like they have any clue.
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Big Blue '56 : 2/26/2020 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14820341 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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He's a dinosaur and he fucking sucks.



I suppose you and the rest of these armchair managers know how to build this team right? You have your thumb on the pulse of the modern NFL right?

The professionals are certainly not infallible but I get tired of a bunch of dimwits drinking beer in their underpants raging about this stuff like they have any clue.


Well you have to admit that his post has plenty of substance.
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