told a great story of saving a kid (when he was a life guard) and how it changed him. Sounds like a great young man and has a chip on his shoulder (was rated the 1800th best high school prospect coming out).. Uses that to motivate himself.
Austin Jackson is one of my favorite OT's in the draft
If the Giants do not select an OT with their first pick I hope they land Austin Jackson with their 2nd even if it requires a slight trade up. He is a little raw but he is very athletic and he has a big upside.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
If the Giants do not select an OT with their first pick I hope they land Austin Jackson with their 2nd even if it requires a slight trade up. He is a little raw but he is very athletic and he has a big upside.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Daniel Jeremiah said today that Austin Jackson is getting top 15 buzz. So that kinda sucks. Like you I was hoping he'd be an option at the top of the 2nd round.
RE: RE: Austin Jackson is one of my favorite OT's in the draft
If the Giants do not select an OT with their first pick I hope they land Austin Jackson with their 2nd even if it requires a slight trade up. He is a little raw but he is very athletic and he has a big upside.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Daniel Jeremiah said today that Austin Jackson is getting top 15 buzz. So that kinda sucks. Like you I was hoping he'd be an option at the top of the 2nd round.
I get the feeling there is going to be a big time run on offensive tackles early on. I feel like 6 will not make it out of the first round.
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
Chaisson is only 20!
I like this kid too.. He's got the potential to be unreal.
6'3" 254 are real nice measurables - with a year in the NFL weight room... I love it.
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
We trade with the Raiders...get their 2 firsts this year.
Chaisson
Jackson (OT)
I’d be pretty thrilled.
RE: Austin Jackson is one of my favorite OT's in the draft
If the Giants do not select an OT with their first pick I hope they land Austin Jackson with their 2nd even if it requires a slight trade up. He is a little raw but he is very athletic and he has a big upside.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Agreed. I like Jackson a lot. Such a smooth, easy, mover with very light, quick, feet. Pulls well, and is good in space. Long enough arms. Can add mass without losing quickness in all likelihood. He does need to improve his technique, especially his hand placement, and get stronger, but he has everything else.
1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
Murray is one of those guys who didn't look very big
At 240... that height, length... speed, explosion... power, cover skills... that is absolutely rare for a guy his size. He is about the same weight/a bit heavier than Devin White, Devin Bush and Roquon Smith were at their combines...
1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
At 240... that height, length... speed, explosion... power, cover skills... that is absolutely rare for a guy his size. He is about the same weight/a bit heavier than Devin White, Devin Bush and Roquon Smith were at their combines...
Also, a bit heavier than studs like Deion Jones and Darius Stewart. He’s my pick
At 240... that height, length... speed, explosion... power, cover skills... that is absolutely rare for a guy his size. He is about the same weight/a bit heavier than Devin White, Devin Bush and Roquon Smith were at their combines...
Seriously, not sure why people label him a tweener when he is a bit bigger then the guys you mentioned during their combine.
1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
At 240... that height, length... speed, explosion... power, cover skills... that is absolutely rare for a guy his size. He is about the same weight/a bit heavier than Devin White, Devin Bush and Roquon Smith were at their combines...
Seriously, not sure why people label him a tweener when he is a bit bigger then the guys you mentioned during their combine.
I used to say tweener due to the fact that he played so many different positions, you would figure his size would be a reason for why... but, thanks to a lot of other people who know more than I, it seems as though he played all over the place b/c he was just that good.
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
We trade with the Raiders...get their 2 firsts this year.
Chaisson
Jackson (OT)
I’d be pretty thrilled.
Exactly or Josh Jones. Getting an ER and OT in round 1 would be amazing.
I see a better athlete than football player. Yes he makes some great plays but you also see a guy that gets lost in plays. More safety than LB, I dont think he is tough enough to play that close to the line all the time.
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Ron Rivera says the Redskins will bring in QBs Joe Burrow and Tua Tagavailoa. Says all options are on the table.
How awesome would it be if the Bengals took a QB, Washington took a QB and then either the Dolphins, Chargers or Panthers send a shitload to the Lions to take a third QB, leaving us with Chase Young.
I see a better athlete than football player. Yes he makes some great plays but you also see a guy that gets lost in plays. More safety than LB, I dont think he is tough enough to play that close to the line all the time.
Agreed. I don't see how to justify taking a guy without a defined position at #4 overall. Hard pass.
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Ron Rivera says the Redskins will bring in QBs Joe Burrow and Tua Tagavailoa. Says all options are on the table.
How awesome would it be if the Bengals took a QB, Washington took a QB and then either the Dolphins, Chargers or Panthers send a shitload to the Lions to take a third QB, leaving us with Chase Young.
It is because he is a "LB" that isn't good inside the box. He plays more like a safety he's unique and needs to be in the right system to maximize what he does well. Asking him to play a traditional role probably isn't the best situation for him.
I don’t like Chaisson and I have a hard time thinking that
1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
A gallon of water doesn’t weigh 8 lbs
Correct, a gallon of fresh water weighs 8.33 lbs. Now salt waters weighs 8.55 lbs.
RE: When people say Simmons is a tweeter it isn't because of his size
It is because he is a "LB" that isn't good inside the box. He plays more like a safety he's unique and needs to be in the right system to maximize what he does well. Asking him to play a traditional role probably isn't the best situation for him.
Well going by Judge and Grahams comments and philosophy, he seems to be the guy we're looking for.
how Becton fares in the interviews and drills. I think he and Simmons remain atop the the Giants list.
I'm getting the sense that this year's recipient of "player who drops the most" is Andrew Thomas. Just a month ago many were predicting him first OL off the board. Likely top 5 prospect.
I wouldn't be surprised now if he falls into the late teens. With Buffalo likely his firewall at #22.
I went into this thinking there wasn't an OT in this class worthy of a Top 5 pick but wanted to delve deeper. I've changed my mind.
He's big enough, strong enough, long enough, athletic enough, tough enough, has plus technical skills in both run and pass blocking. There are no deficiencies in his game. He's a smooth and natural mover. He's like an iceman out there. He just works his routine and wears you down. He has upside to his game and a high floor. He's both a better player than becton right now and the less risky choice.
I encourage you all to watch his game vs Auburn. Wills(#74) engages with Derrick Brown(#5) several times and looks good in their encounters. He was the best lineman on either side of the ball for either squad in that game and there was a lot of high quality NFL talent on the field that day. Good video breakdown of Wills here including some Auburn clips - ( New Window )
RE: I don’t like Chaisson and I have a hard time thinking that
Don’t just look at the stats. Chaisson is super young but smart and relentless. His upside is huge and he is a “ dog “ that many on here say they want in a LB.
I went into this thinking there wasn't an OT in this class worthy of a Top 5 pick but wanted to delve deeper. I've changed my mind.
He's big enough, strong enough, long enough, athletic enough, tough enough, has plus technical skills in both run and pass blocking. There are no deficiencies in his game. He's a smooth and natural mover. He's like an iceman out there. He just works his routine and wears you down. He has upside to his game and a high floor. He's both a better player than becton right now and the less risky choice.
I encourage you all to watch his game vs Auburn. Wills(#74) engages with Derrick Brown(#5) several times and looks good in their encounters. He was the best lineman on either side of the ball for either squad in that game and there was a lot of high quality NFL talent on the field that day. Good video breakdown of Wills here including some Auburn clips - ( New Window )
Do you know what impressed more in that video? The job Alabama RG Deonte Brown did battling DBrown. He's an interesting prospect for 2021.
I have to admit that is some really good technique in all phases. I can't believe how quick his feet and hips are. I would be happy if he was our 1st pick
I have to admit that is some really good technique in all phases. I can't believe how quick his feet and hips are. I would be happy if he was our 1st pick
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
Height: 6-2 1/8
Weight: 256
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 79 4/8
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Daniel Jeremiah said today that Austin Jackson is getting top 15 buzz. So that kinda sucks. Like you I was hoping he'd be an option at the top of the 2nd round.
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If the Giants do not select an OT with their first pick I hope they land Austin Jackson with their 2nd even if it requires a slight trade up. He is a little raw but he is very athletic and he has a big upside.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Daniel Jeremiah said today that Austin Jackson is getting top 15 buzz. So that kinda sucks. Like you I was hoping he'd be an option at the top of the 2nd round.
I get the feeling there is going to be a big time run on offensive tackles early on. I feel like 6 will not make it out of the first round.
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
238 pounds
9 5/8 hands
33 3/8 arms
81 7/8 wingspan
Good start to the combine for him.
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Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
Chaisson is only 20!
I like this kid too.. He's got the potential to be unreal.
6'3" 254 are real nice measurables - with a year in the NFL weight room... I love it.
238 pounds
9 5/8 hands
33 3/8 arms
81 7/8 wingspan
Good start to the combine for him.
If he were 15 pounds heavier with the same expected explosiveness, I would sign off on him at 4 as an OLB.
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Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
We trade with the Raiders...get their 2 firsts this year.
Chaisson
Jackson (OT)
I’d be pretty thrilled.
If the Giants sign a veteran to start at RT then a player like Austin Jackson makes a lot of sense for the Giants. He could begin the season as the swing tackle and be ready to start by midseason if Solder continues to struggle.
Agreed. I like Jackson a lot. Such a smooth, easy, mover with very light, quick, feet. Pulls well, and is good in space. Long enough arms. Can add mass without losing quickness in all likelihood. He does need to improve his technique, especially his hand placement, and get stronger, but he has everything else.
I'd love to get one of those too.
Height: 6-2 4/8
Weight: 241
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 32 6/8
Wingspan: 80
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
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Official #NFLCombine LB measurements:
Tallest: Cameron Brown and Terrell Lewis, 6-5 1/4
Heaviest: Nick Coe, 280
Longest arms: Azur Kamara, 35 1/4
Longest wing: Daniel Bituli and Terrell Lewis, 83 3/8
Largest hands: Willie Gay Jr., 10 1/2
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
A gallon of water doesn’t weigh 8lbs
Also, a bit heavier than studs like Deion Jones and Darius Stewart. He’s my pick
This makes sense because that was the one game were I thought he struggled a bit.
Seriously, not sure why people label him a tweener when he is a bit bigger then the guys you mentioned during their combine.
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1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
A gallon of water doesn’t weigh 8lbs
8.34 if you're going to nit pick about .34lbs....
How much does a gallon of water weigh? - ( New Window )
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At 240... that height, length... speed, explosion... power, cover skills... that is absolutely rare for a guy his size. He is about the same weight/a bit heavier than Devin White, Devin Bush and Roquon Smith were at their combines...
Seriously, not sure why people label him a tweener when he is a bit bigger then the guys you mentioned during their combine.
I used to say tweener due to the fact that he played so many different positions, you would figure his size would be a reason for why... but, thanks to a lot of other people who know more than I, it seems as though he played all over the place b/c he was just that good.
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Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
I love this kid. He is so explosive. If we could trade down to 2-5 spots, pick up another 1st or early 2nd round pick, I would take Chaisson and then go OL with the next pick.
We trade with the Raiders...get their 2 firsts this year.
Chaisson
Jackson (OT)
I’d be pretty thrilled.
Exactly or Josh Jones. Getting an ER and OT in round 1 would be amazing.
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Ron Rivera says the Redskins will bring in QBs Joe Burrow and Tua Tagavailoa. Says all options are on the table.
@DNewtonespn
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Ron Rivera says the Redskins will bring in QBs Joe Burrow and Tua Tagavailoa. Says all options are on the table.
How awesome would it be if the Bengals took a QB, Washington took a QB and then either the Dolphins, Chargers or Panthers send a shitload to the Lions to take a third QB, leaving us with Chase Young.
Agreed. I don't see how to justify taking a guy without a defined position at #4 overall. Hard pass.
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David Newton
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Ron Rivera says the Redskins will bring in QBs Joe Burrow and Tua Tagavailoa. Says all options are on the table.
How awesome would it be if the Bengals took a QB, Washington took a QB and then either the Dolphins, Chargers or Panthers send a shitload to the Lions to take a third QB, leaving us with Chase Young.
Crazy shit happens so you never know.
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6'3 3/8
238 pounds
9 5/8 hands
33 3/8 arms
81 7/8 wingspan
Good start to the combine for him.
If he were 15 pounds heavier with the same expected explosiveness, I would sign off on him at 4 as an OLB.
Actually he only lacks 7 pounds to hit the avg weight of a LB in the NFL which is 245
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1 - If Isiah Simmons weighed in at 238 knowing that number mattered I would guess he'll really play in the high 220's or right around 230 (gallon of water before weigh in likely)
2 - Derek Brown, and this doesn't effect play so is worthless, but does a 9" hand for a guy that size with arms that long seem weird? All 3 of those things go together typically.
A gallon of water doesn’t weigh 8 lbs
Correct, a gallon of fresh water weighs 8.33 lbs. Now salt waters weighs 8.55 lbs.
Well going by Judge and Grahams comments and philosophy, he seems to be the guy we're looking for.
I'm getting the sense that this year's recipient of "player who drops the most" is Andrew Thomas. Just a month ago many were predicting him first OL off the board. Likely top 5 prospect.
I wouldn't be surprised now if he falls into the late teens. With Buffalo likely his firewall at #22.
He's big enough, strong enough, long enough, athletic enough, tough enough, has plus technical skills in both run and pass blocking. There are no deficiencies in his game. He's a smooth and natural mover. He's like an iceman out there. He just works his routine and wears you down. He has upside to his game and a high floor. He's both a better player than becton right now and the less risky choice.
I encourage you all to watch his game vs Auburn. Wills(#74) engages with Derrick Brown(#5) several times and looks good in their encounters. He was the best lineman on either side of the ball for either squad in that game and there was a lot of high quality NFL talent on the field that day.
Good video breakdown of Wills here including some Auburn clips - ( New Window )
Don’t just look at the stats. Chaisson is super young but smart and relentless. His upside is huge and he is a “ dog “ that many on here say they want in a LB.
He's big enough, strong enough, long enough, athletic enough, tough enough, has plus technical skills in both run and pass blocking. There are no deficiencies in his game. He's a smooth and natural mover. He's like an iceman out there. He just works his routine and wears you down. He has upside to his game and a high floor. He's both a better player than becton right now and the less risky choice.
I encourage you all to watch his game vs Auburn. Wills(#74) engages with Derrick Brown(#5) several times and looks good in their encounters. He was the best lineman on either side of the ball for either squad in that game and there was a lot of high quality NFL talent on the field that day. Good video breakdown of Wills here including some Auburn clips - ( New Window )
Do you know what impressed more in that video? The job Alabama RG Deonte Brown did battling DBrown. He's an interesting prospect for 2021.
That's in response to Eric's link on Wills