The 4th rounder is not on their team anymbore and the 6th rounder has rushed for 83 yards in two years.
Just wasted a bunch of crap room and future cap room. I wonder how much cap space we have in dead space from Olgeltree. Converting his salary into a bonus probably hurt.
We got Ogletree and a 7th rd pick and gave up a 4th and 6th. I dont think it was a bad trade.
It was because of 2 reasons:
A) He was terrible the year before in a 3/4 defense and we brought him into another 3-4 defense. He played his best in a 4-3 (I know most teams are multiple so please spare me)
B) His salary was pretty big and could have been used for other players that would have made the team better all around. He basically made our team older and gave us less cap space.
for the Giants not to release all their cuts at once? Why do it a few at a time?
Ummmm…. No. Because they can and that's the way they want to do it.
Also, we're still in the roster evaluation portion of the offseason. Judge and the coaching staff are new. Perhaps they want to keep guys like Ellison and Bethea. Unlikely, but possible.
for a declining player with a big cap hit and now we have dead money this coming season. Nice one Dave!
People talk about irrational negativity then walk right past people trying to put lipstick on this pig. They traded a pick for a guy likely to be cut for the right to pay him a lot of money to stink. At the time it didn't look good, with time it only looks worse.
for a declining player with a big cap hit and now we have dead money this coming season. Nice one Dave!
People talk about irrational negativity then walk right past people trying to put lipstick on this pig. They traded a pick for a guy likely to be cut for the right to pay him a lot of money to stink. At the time it didn't look good, with time it only looks worse.
Correct, imv. AO had age on his side but his performance was not ascending, and it was likely he would've been cut.
if I heard this correctly, it would be a dick move to keep players on the roster that are not part of the plan for next year.
Players want to be released at this point so that they and/or their agent can get to the combine to start rubbing elbows with team management for their next shot at employment.
Coach Judge: "You don’t sign older players to change the culture. That’s our job.”
This is pretty clearly in direct contradiction to Gettleman. E.g. the Jonathan Stewart signing, Antoine Bethea, and saying he was keeping Jenkins around to teach the young CB's.
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But when asked about Jenkins during his post-Draft press conference, GM Dave Gettleman said Jenkins isn't moving because he has some training to do.
Literally.
"Janoris has a bunch of puppies he's got to train," Gettleman told reporters.
Coach Judge: "You don’t sign older players to change the culture. That’s our job.”
This is pretty clearly in direct contradiction to Gettleman. E.g. the Jonathan Stewart signing, Antoine Bethea, and saying he was keeping Jenkins around to teach the young CB's.
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But when asked about Jenkins during his post-Draft press conference, GM Dave Gettleman said Jenkins isn't moving because he has some training to do.
Literally.
"Janoris has a bunch of puppies he's got to train," Gettleman told reporters.
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New York Giants have officially terminated the contracts of linebackers Alec Ogletree and Kareem Martin. The moves create an additional $13.05 million in cap space ($8.25 million by cutting Ogletree and $4.8 million by cutting Martin).
Been waiting for these cuts since the beginning of the month. Sucks these 2 guys lost their job, but it gives them an opportunity to catch on with another team in Free Agency.
I find it a bit puzzling that Bethea wasn't cut at the same time.
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Ummmm…. No. Because they can and that's the way they want to do it.
Maybe Judge reviewed Ogletree's film just yesterday.
We got Ogletree and a 7th rd pick and gave up a 4th and 6th. I dont think it was a bad trade.
Doesn't mean we would have picked those players.
Just wasted a bunch of crap room and future cap room. I wonder how much cap space we have in dead space from Olgeltree. Converting his salary into a bonus probably hurt.
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The 4th rounder is not on their team anymbore and the 6th rounder has rushed for 83 yards in two years.
Doesn't mean we would have picked those players.
^This. We also used our other fourth that year for Lauletta.
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the Ogletree trade goes in the L column.
We got Ogletree and a 7th rd pick and gave up a 4th and 6th. I dont think it was a bad trade.
It was because of 2 reasons:
A) He was terrible the year before in a 3/4 defense and we brought him into another 3-4 defense. He played his best in a 4-3 (I know most teams are multiple so please spare me)
B) His salary was pretty big and could have been used for other players that would have made the team better all around. He basically made our team older and gave us less cap space.
so if we gave up the #1 pick in the draft but the guy ended up a bust - we still gave up nothing? WTF?
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for the Giants not to release all their cuts at once? Why do it a few at a time?
Ummmm…. No. Because they can and that's the way they want to do it.
Also, we're still in the roster evaluation portion of the offseason. Judge and the coaching staff are new. Perhaps they want to keep guys like Ellison and Bethea. Unlikely, but possible.
Can you shoutout a move/target that is expected?
People talk about irrational negativity then walk right past people trying to put lipstick on this pig. They traded a pick for a guy likely to be cut for the right to pay him a lot of money to stink. At the time it didn't look good, with time it only looks worse.
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for a declining player with a big cap hit and now we have dead money this coming season. Nice one Dave!
People talk about irrational negativity then walk right past people trying to put lipstick on this pig. They traded a pick for a guy likely to be cut for the right to pay him a lot of money to stink. At the time it didn't look good, with time it only looks worse.
Correct, imv. AO had age on his side but his performance was not ascending, and it was likely he would've been cut.
Players want to be released at this point so that they and/or their agent can get to the combine to start rubbing elbows with team management for their next shot at employment.
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the Ogletree trade goes in the L column.
We got Ogletree and a 7th rd pick and gave up a 4th and 6th. I dont think it was a bad trade.
The Giants got nothing out of Ogletree. That's a bad trade.
This is pretty clearly in direct contradiction to Gettleman. E.g. the Jonathan Stewart signing, Antoine Bethea, and saying he was keeping Jenkins around to teach the young CB's.
Literally.
"Janoris has a bunch of puppies he's got to train," Gettleman told reporters.
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Coach Judge: "You don’t sign older players to change the culture. That’s our job.”
This is pretty clearly in direct contradiction to Gettleman. E.g. the Jonathan Stewart signing, Antoine Bethea, and saying he was keeping Jenkins around to teach the young CB's.
Quote:
But when asked about Jenkins during his post-Draft press conference, GM Dave Gettleman said Jenkins isn't moving because he has some training to do.
Literally.
"Janoris has a bunch of puppies he's got to train," Gettleman told reporters.
Agreed.
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New York Giants have officially terminated the contracts of linebackers Alec Ogletree and Kareem Martin. The moves create an additional $13.05 million in cap space ($8.25 million by cutting Ogletree and $4.8 million by cutting Martin).