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JP Finlay @JPFinlayNBCS The Redskins are bringing in Joe Burrow and Tua for meetings. |
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| JP Finlay @JPFinlayNBCS · 3m Replying to @JPFinlayNBCS Ron Rivera says meeting with Burrow and Tua is not just due diligence. They’re real meetings. Rivera likes Dwayne Haskins but says all options are on table. |
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Ron Rivera just told the media this is about not closing the door on anything. Called Dwayne Haskins a “good young player.” Is pleased when he does his rounds in the building, he sees Haskins. “You walk by the weight room, he’s there. You walk by the locker room, he’s there.”
The Giants have their QB for the next 15 years ... the Redskins don’t.
Or what kind of commodity some teams might be clamoring to move up and get?
How could they maneuver to an extra pick and still land Young?
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should be doing the same damn thing.
The Giants have their QB for the next 15 years ... the Redskins don’t.
Judge and Gettleman have been refusing to give Jones a public vote of confidence, likely to try to generate some concern in other teams about their favorite QB prospect getting past #4.
It's a long shot, but a year after Rosen was shipped out of Arizona, teams actually have to consider it to be at least plausible.
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Smoke. Could indicate they are trying to engineer a scenario where they can snake an extra pick and still get Young.
How could they maneuver to an extra pick and still land Young?
You can't... unless you are willing to pass on Young in the first place... meaning... you only land Young if you trade back one spot with Detroit... Detroit only trades up if they want Tua and are scared Miami or another team is going to jump ahead of them and buy that #2 pick which would only happen if the Redskins were truly willing to trade with Miami or another team to begin with putting them outside of Chase Young's range... makes no sense... if Redskins want Chase they cant trade back period
Or what kind of commodity some teams might be clamoring to move up and get?
You only get a limited number interviews at combine. they can certainly scout these guys and attend pro day. If these QBs are all that they won't be there at number 4.
Pretty sure they are. You meet with as many as the top guys as you’re allowed.
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
Nor are the Redskins
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should be doing the same damn thing.
The Giants have their QB for the next 15 years ... the Redskins don’t.
Judge and Gettleman have been refusing to give Jones a public vote of confidence, likely to try to generate some concern in other teams about their favorite QB prospect getting past #4.
It's a long shot, but a year after Rosen was shipped out of Arizona, teams actually have to consider it to be at least plausible.
Jones showed more in one game (vs Tampa) than Rosen ever did in the pros.
And Judge hasn't talked about ANYONE. Don't be one of those click-bait beat writers.
Oh well. Let's hope that Herbert can impress and have his stock rise, or we just take one of Simmons or Ok.
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Ron Rivera just told the media this is about not closing the door on anything. Called Dwayne Haskins a “good young player.” Is pleased when he does his rounds in the building, he sees Haskins. “You walk by the weight room, he’s there. You walk by the locker room, he’s there.”
How many Dwayne Haskins do they have?
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Mike Garafolo
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Ron Rivera just told the media this is about not closing the door on anything. Called Dwayne Haskins a “good young player.” Is pleased when he does his rounds in the building, he sees Haskins. “You walk by the weight room, he’s there. You walk by the locker room, he’s there.”
How many Dwayne Haskins do they have?
One. But he's so fat he can be in multiple rooms at the same time.
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Judge and Gettleman have been refusing to give Jones a public vote of confidence, likely to try to generate some concern in other teams about their favorite QB prospect getting past #4.
It's a long shot, but a year after Rosen was shipped out of Arizona, teams actually have to consider it to be at least plausible.
Jones showed more in one game (vs Tampa) than Rosen ever did in the pros.
And Judge hasn't talked about ANYONE. Don't be one of those click-bait beat writers.
I guess you missed the point.
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
Going from Haskins to Tua or Herbert would actually be a defendable move. I think any team not owned by Dan Snyder with Washington's roster would consider it.
That the Cards dumped Rosen in favor of Murray.
The Bengals are full of holes, say the Skins offer them their 2nd over-all, Haskins. and their 2021 1st rounder ....
Jones showed more in one game (vs Tampa) than Rosen ever did in the pros.
And Judge hasn't talked about ANYONE. Don't be one of those click-bait beat writers.
Which do you think offers more leverage to the Giants overall - leaving open the possibility that they may be interested in pursuing either Tua or Burrow, or publicly declaring that they're happy with their QB and will definitely not be taking one in the draft?
Better college college stats than Luck's ...
Luck - 82 TDs, 22 INTs, Rate - 162.8
Burrow - 76 TDs,11 INTs, Rate - 172.4; in 2019, he was on fire - 60TDs, 6 INTs, Rate - 202.0
Tua - 87 TDs, 11 INTs, 199.4
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
No, I think what you do is realize that we reached for a QB that we liked because we needed one because we mismananged Eli, and Jones is not an NFL championship level arm. You have 2 of them in our sight. Maybe Judge is smart enough to talk to Saban and the LSU coach instead of what we heard about cog-in-wheel thinking in this league.
Winners have pedigree and a reason why they play for the best teams. No disrespect to Jones, but Duke? Seriously? No wonder we never fucking win anymore with the lazy thinking around here.
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From a Giants perspective. If you look at Daniel Jones rookie season and think drafting Burrow or Tua is a solid move, I have to ask... When does that cycle ever stop?
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
No, I think what you do is realize that we reached for a QB that we liked because we needed one because we mismananged Eli, and Jones is not an NFL championship level arm. You have 2 of them in our sight. Maybe Judge is smart enough to talk to Saban and the LSU coach instead of what we heard about cog-in-wheel thinking in this league.
Winners have pedigree and a reason why they play for the best teams. No disrespect to Jones, but Duke? Seriously? No wonder we never fucking win anymore with the lazy thinking around here.
What?
Duke is irrelevant at this point. What did he do in the NFL last year?
How many high profile college QB's with the "pedigree", and that come from the best programs, bust once they get to the NFL?
I can't wrap my head around what you just posted. At all.
Winners have pedigree and a reason why they play for the best teams. No disrespect to Jones, but Duke? Seriously? No wonder we never fucking win anymore with the lazy thinking around here.
Aaron Rodgers went to University of California at Berkeley.
Let's assume both of these QBs turn out to be Franchise QBs - (top 10) and Haskins turns out to be an average to below average QB. The redskins will be kicking themselves for passing on them. Imagine if each had a Mahomes like impact and the skins passed on one of them.
The skins at least have to thoroughly investigate both of them.
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From a Giants perspective. If you look at Daniel Jones rookie season and think drafting Burrow or Tua is a solid move, I have to ask... When does that cycle ever stop?
Daniel Jones had one of the best rookie seasons by a QB in a lot of aspects. Say Burrow comes in and does similar, but you're drafting in the top 5 again. Then what? Do you discard Burrow for Lawrence? Then Lawrence comes in and struggles. Discard Lawrence for the next shiny object?
When does it end? What does a QB have to do to satisfy you that you can proceed?
This wasn't a thing until Arizona did it with Rosen to Murray. It's not like Arizona is the franchise you want to emulate, so what's the fascination with this concept?
No, I think what you do is realize that we reached for a QB that we liked because we needed one because we mismananged Eli, and Jones is not an NFL championship level arm. You have 2 of them in our sight. Maybe Judge is smart enough to talk to Saban and the LSU coach instead of what we heard about cog-in-wheel thinking in this league.
Winners have pedigree and a reason why they play for the best teams. No disrespect to Jones, but Duke? Seriously? No wonder we never fucking win anymore with the lazy thinking around here.
Ding Ding Ding ... we have a winner ... dumbest post of the day.
If you get a team desperate enough and make theme nervous enough, you could get a king' ransom for the second spot.
If you get a team desperate enough and make theme nervous enough, you could get a king' ransom for the second spot.
I think this is most likely, and a smart move by them.
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should be doing the same damn thing.
The Giants have their QB for the next 15 years ... the Redskins don’t.
Meetings are a limited resource, not worth wasting on a head fake.