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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2020 9:29 am
With understandable interest in the COVID-19 issue, BBI has been inundated with threads on the subject. At the same time, BBI remains a football website and the focus of this discussion board should now be predominantly on free agency.

So we requesting that instead of starting new threads on COVID-19, you post updates, personal observations, and discussion within our pinned daily thread. The other existing threads will be locked and kept for a few days as pre-existing resources for information.

Thank you for your cooperation!
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis  
Ceez2.0 : 4/2/2020 6:13 pm : link
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said religious services conducted in churches, synagogues and houses of worship are “essential business” and therefore exempt from his stay-at-home order



and his neighbor to the north, running the state that houses the CDC, just revealed that he only learned 24 hours ago that asymptomatic carriers could transmit the virus.

The people not rallying around the country aren't the ones vocalizing their criticism of the willful ineptitude. The ones betraying the country are those who are not fulfilling their duties to protect the American people.



They are ALL failing us! Dr. Fauci getting death threat?!?!?! He's the only one worth a damn on that "team".

Mot exactly a thoughtful or helpful comment.


Apologies, I'm (like most of us) just incredibly frustrated.
RE: Only about a fifth of Americans will get the stimulus checks  
CGiants07 : 4/2/2020 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14857580 kicker said:
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by April 13. It will then take about 3 weeks to start sending out the rest of the checks, which will be about 5 million per week, which means that the last batch of stimulus checks could be about 20 weeks out...

if you did direct deposit on your tax returns thats how you will get the stimulus
RE: RE: Only about a fifth of Americans will get the stimulus checks  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/2/2020 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14857589 Diver_Down said:
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by April 13. It will then take about 3 weeks to start sending out the rest of the checks, which will be about 5 million per week, which means that the last batch of stimulus checks could be about 20 weeks out...



I heard that this afternoon and just shook my head. What an abject failure. What I don't understand is why the delay with direct deposit? It is an electronic transaction - no check; no mailing; You have one account (Federal Treasury) and the recipient's account. There should be no delay on electronic transactions.

Feels like the same thing that affects "check is in the mail" small biz payments, IMO. If I had to guess, tax payments are being rerouted to the stimulus.
RE: RE: Only about a fifth of Americans will get the stimulus checks  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/2/2020 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14857652 CGiants07 said:
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by April 13. It will then take about 3 weeks to start sending out the rest of the checks, which will be about 5 million per week, which means that the last batch of stimulus checks could be about 20 weeks out...


if you did direct deposit on your tax returns thats how you will get the stimulus

Dynamite drop-in Monty.
RE: RE: Only about a fifth of Americans will get the stimulus checks  
PatersonPlank : 4/2/2020 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14857652 CGiants07 said:
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by April 13. It will then take about 3 weeks to start sending out the rest of the checks, which will be about 5 million per week, which means that the last batch of stimulus checks could be about 20 weeks out...


if you did direct deposit on your tax returns thats how you will get the stimulus


I may be wrong, but the way I understood this is that the direct deposit people (the ones who got direct deposit of their taxes) would get their money in 2 weeks or so. The people who will require physical checks, or have to submit their direct deposit information because they didn't use it for taxes, would be the ones who have to wait.
RE: RE: yep..  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/2/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14857282 ArtVandelay said:
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These days there are also straight up different realities depending on your political view which is extremely problematic. The internet has destabilized society massively, it will be interesting to see if we ever come out the other side.



I agree 100%. but it is not just the internet that is the bad actor in all this .. there is an unnamed cable channel that has fed lies to their viewers for 30 years.. until this is seriously addressed - our country will never get better ..





The main stream media and political parties divide us. It’s by design. Their one side is good the other side is evil narrative is as fake as pro wrestling. They play for the same team.

Eff that. The MSM isn't the bad actor as long as there are people who are reaching back 30 years with hindsight to find every time they've been misled. We all have access to every side of the story. We choose whether to read one side, neither, or both.

Stupid is a personal choice.
RE: RE: RE: yep..  
Mike from SI : 4/2/2020 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14857664 Gatorade Dunk said:
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These days there are also straight up different realities depending on your political view which is extremely problematic. The internet has destabilized society massively, it will be interesting to see if we ever come out the other side.



I agree 100%. but it is not just the internet that is the bad actor in all this .. there is an unnamed cable channel that has fed lies to their viewers for 30 years.. until this is seriously addressed - our country will never get better ..





The main stream media and political parties divide us. It’s by design. Their one side is good the other side is evil narrative is as fake as pro wrestling. They play for the same team.


Eff that. The MSM isn't the bad actor as long as there are people who are reaching back 30 years with hindsight to find every time they've been misled. We all have access to every side of the story. We choose whether to read one side, neither, or both.

Stupid is a personal choice.


Unfortunately, it's actually not a choice for some people.
I can't wait for this thread to go into the ash heap of BBI history.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 7:21 pm : link
To watch sports.. To get a haircut. To not cross the street if I see someone walking towards. To go to a bar, restaurant. To go to the gym.

Please God, let us get back to normal, or semi normal, STAT.
When they eventually ease social distancing guidance  
ron mexico : 4/2/2020 7:28 pm : link
How do you think they will do it. Little by little or all at once?

What are some initial easings they can do?
Ron mexico  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 7:33 pm : link
I was talking about that with brother earlier. I think it'll be piecemeal.

Another ? is how are people going to act. I'm of the mindset that there's 3 groups: 1) 'F Yeah. Everything's open! Let's go!, 2) 'Yeah, things are open. But maybe I'll ease myself back into society/going out, & 3) 'I'm going to be a hermit for a bit longer to make sure this thing is officially gone.'

I probably find myself in group 2.
RE: Ron mexico  
nygiants16 : 4/2/2020 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14857678 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I was talking about that with brother earlier. I think it'll be piecemeal.

Another ? is how are people going to act. I'm of the mindset that there's 3 groups: 1) 'F Yeah. Everything's open! Let's go!, 2) 'Yeah, things are open. But maybe I'll ease myself back into society/going out, & 3) 'I'm going to be a hermit for a bit longer to make sure this thing is officially gone.'

I probably find myself in group 2.


I just said this to my wife, people will be excited but a lot people will be nervous to go back out, especially people who are older and stayed in their house and didnt go anywhere..

it is going to take awhile for people to feel comfortable, i dont think j will be nervous because i am still semi working and i am doing the shopping for 2 households, so i have been out of the house
I think this is going to have major, long-term effects on society  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 4/2/2020 7:47 pm : link
People are going to be much more careful about public gatherings well after the virus has cleared out.

More people are going to demand full or part time telework. More meetings are going to be via videoconference.

A lot of businesses are going to go away.
nygiants16  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 7:48 pm : link
I really do think is going to change our society, for awhile @ least. Bill Simmons made this point on his pod the other day. Let's say you're @ an NBA game this coming January & someone behinds you cough. In the past, you probably wouldn't have given it a seconds thought. Now people are going to be like, 'Wow. I don't want to be near this guy.'

Hopefully, if anything good comes of this, it will make people practice good hygiene. I'm a total germaphobe so I was washing my hands like 20 times a day before this craziness began, but hopefully other people start doing this too.
I think it will be a very gradual come back  
ChathamMark : 4/2/2020 7:48 pm : link
until there is a vaccine. People going to movies, baseball games, sitting next to one another at a bar, etc.? Don't think anyone is going to jump in that pool.
I would love to see a long-term effect  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/2/2020 7:56 pm : link
being a larger push towards telework so that there is more incentive for people to spread out and live in suburban and rural areas.
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 4/2/2020 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14857689 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I really do think is going to change our society, for awhile @ least. Bill Simmons made this point on his pod the other day. Let's say you're @ an NBA game this coming January & someone behinds you cough. In the past, you probably wouldn't have given it a seconds thought. Now people are going to be like, 'Wow. I don't want to be near this guy.'

Hopefully, if anything good comes of this, it will make people practice good hygiene. I'm a total germaphobe so I was washing my hands like 20 times a day before this craziness began, but hopefully other people start doing this too.


Yeah agreed..

my parents bought a second house in jupiter a couple of yeara ago, i joked with ny dad why couldnt he buy a house on 50 acres of land instead of florida, would be perfect right now
Just read that a hall at Rungis  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 8:05 pm : link
Market, outside of Paris, will be used temporarily as a morgue. It's the world's largest wholesale food market. I actually visited it when I was in France back in '01 & it was F'ing huge, like countless regular grocery stores rolled into one.

Over 5,000 have died in France from the virus.
Is the governor of  
XBRONX : 4/2/2020 8:07 pm : link
Georgia retarded?
RE: Is the governor of  
Diver_Down : 4/2/2020 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14857704 XBRONX said:
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Georgia retarded?


We can't say that? - Jenkins
RE: Just read that a hall at Rungis  
Diver_Down : 4/2/2020 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14857703 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Market, outside of Paris, will be used temporarily as a morgue. It's the world's largest wholesale food market. I actually visited it when I was in France back in '01 & it was F'ing huge, like countless regular grocery stores rolled into one.

Over 5,000 have died in France from the virus.


I think it was Spain where they are using an ice rink as a morgue. They should be thankful to be able to re-purpose such facilities. In Ecuador, the news showed where bodies are left in coffins curbside as the morgue was overwhelmed and couldn't accommodate any more.
The South is going to get walloped.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 8:22 pm : link
Unhealthiest region in the States.
RE: nygiants16  
rocco8112 : 4/2/2020 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14857689 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I really do think is going to change our society, for awhile @ least. Bill Simmons made this point on his pod the other day. Let's say you're @ an NBA game this coming January & someone behinds you cough. In the past, you probably wouldn't have given it a seconds thought. Now people are going to be like, 'Wow. I don't want to be near this guy.'

Hopefully, if anything good comes of this, it will make people practice good hygiene. I'm a total germaphobe so I was washing my hands like 20 times a day before this craziness began, but hopefully other people start doing this too.



Yes,

This is an example of what I meant by there will be life before the virus, and life after.

In a great modern country like the United States of America, for generations, we have been able to flip the bird to deadly communicable disease. The vast majority of us,basically anyone not ill, immune compromised, or very old, if you caught a communicable disease you got better. Who was sacred of picking up a bug at a sporting event? Thanks to science, ample food and sanitation, no one was.

Those days are over now. This is a deadly germ and it is everywhere on God's green Earth. It must be respected and many facets of life will be permanently changed. This is uncharted waters for any American alive today. No one knows how it will play out. It is not an extinction event, but it is a major historical event, a bad one.

I hope Science saves the day, but let's be honest regarding a vaccine. If one that is effective and safe comes out anywhere near the bandied about time frame of 18 months, thst would be one of the greatest achievements in human history. The men and women responsible for that should have statues built, bridges named and so on. The world is still waiting for a HIV vaccine and that broke out in the 80's.

More likely are medicines and treatments, more immunity in the population and the fact that the virus itself may change to be less virulent like its Coronavirus cousins which cause the common cold. I read that somewhere. Lots of unknowns though, and in the interim many are dying and healthcare workers are on the front line of this microbe WWIII.

Of course, even bad historical events can bring about positives for the future. To me though it is a lock things will change forever and no one knows how it plays out.
RE: Is the governor of  
M.S. : 4/2/2020 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14857704 XBRONX said:
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Georgia retarded?

I think it goes way beyond being retarded.

I mean the guy said that he just learned within the past 24 hours that asymptomatic patients could actually spread COVID-19.

Where has this guy been hiding... in a sealed, underground, sound-proof room?

A little bit of good news from my own social circles  
Matt in SGS : 4/2/2020 8:48 pm : link
My wife's friend's mother, in her upper 70s, wasn't feeling well with cold like symptoms, but not the respiratory issues, started to feel worse and was brought to the hospital on Sunday in NJ (I think near Morristown). She was admitted and they noticed issues with heart and kidneys and was going into organ failure. She was tested and diagnosed positive with Covid yesterday. She was given the treatments we have heard about (malaria drug) and started to feel better. So much so that she was moved out of the hospital today and into a new Covid rehab facility where she will spend a little time on the medication and observation and will then be allowed to return home.

This was amazing news because it seemed extremely bleak 24 hours ago. And this is exactly the type of data that medical professionals are tracking and looking at to find a treatment as a vaccine is created. So I know each case is different, and there is a long road ahead, but at least in this case for her mom, it seems to have worked.
Add my 29-year old cousin to those hospitalized  
Milton : 4/2/2020 8:57 pm : link
At first she didn't have the shortness of breath but it later developed and she was hospitalized, put on a ventilator, and given the malaria drug. She's out of the hospital now. Not sure if she's back at work, which would technically mean she's back in the hospital, but on the job rather than in a bed.
Pilot buddy of mine  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/2/2020 9:13 pm : link
had symptoms, checked into hospital, was getting worse, was given the malaria cocktail, and recovered rather quickly.
Good to hear people recovering!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 9:18 pm : link
Too many stories of people dying. Yes, it's awful when people die & I'm not trying to minimize that, but sometimes we need to hear people recovering.
RE: Is the governor of  
Darth Paul : 4/2/2020 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14857704 XBRONX said:
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Georgia retarded?


Stay Classy
Two of my closest friends mothers have it. Both work in healthcare  
BlueHurricane : 4/2/2020 9:34 pm : link
Both ladies are in their early 60's. Both are recovering with only mild symptoms when they were at their worst.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how/why this treats each individual so differently. Neither of these ladies are the picture of health. Both quite frail. One was a longtime smoker. Will be interesting to see if they ever figure out why this virus behaves in this manner.
It's bad.  
Jim in Hoboken : 4/2/2020 10:05 pm : link
Plaquenil and Azithromax don't treat the majority.

The vent shortage is real.

Some patients, even young and otherwise healthy, have this severe systemic inflammatory response, cytokine storm, which is almost impossible to treat unless they are at a tertiary care center with the available "experimental" drugs and advanced supportive treatment.
🤔  
trueblueinpw : 4/2/2020 10:08 pm : link
Governor of Georgia. Can’t make this stuff up. Welp, give the people what they want I guess.
RE: 🤔  
Mr. Bungle : 4/2/2020 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14857786 trueblueinpw said:
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Governor of Georgia. Can’t make this stuff up. Welp, give the people what they want I guess.

And the governor of Florida exempting churchgoers from lockdown because church is "essential."

Idiots electing idiots in some states.
RE: It's bad.  
DC Gmen Fan : 4/2/2020 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14857782 Jim in Hoboken said:
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Plaquenil and Azithromax don't treat the majority.
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Have they done enough studies yet to determine this?
The studies that are out now are small and poorly designed.  
Jim in Hoboken : 4/2/2020 10:17 pm : link
It seems most ID physicians are trying them however, just have to watch for arrhythmias.

The ones that respond go home and talk about it I guess. I can tell all these deaths were on them too.
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kicker : 4/2/2020 10:23 pm : link
Hopefully when it’s released, this weeks state unemployment numbers continue to highlight the fact that lifting shelter in place would or would not help the economy.
RE: RE: Is the governor of  
santacruzom : 4/2/2020 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14857720 M.S. said:
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Georgia retarded?


I think it goes way beyond being retarded.

I mean the guy said that he just learned within the past 24 hours that asymptomatic patients could actually spread COVID-19.

Where has this guy been hiding... in a sealed, underground, sound-proof room?


Maybe a positive part of COVID's legacy will be the effect it has upon how voters evaluate candidates for public office, and if so, hopefully a guy like this won't pass the muster.
RE: RE: 🤔  
MetsAreBack : 4/2/2020 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14857789 Mr. Bungle said:
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Governor of Georgia. Can’t make this stuff up. Welp, give the people what they want I guess.


And the governor of Florida exempting churchgoers from lockdown because church is "essential."

Idiots electing idiots in some states.


Separation of church and state. Above the law, I think, unless they want to go to court. Won’t move the needle ... let it be.

Glad to hear stories above about recoveries. Bless your families

Is the ‘virus still winning’? I’ve stayed away from this thread for days because of various whiny death seeking asswipes but just curious if this one guy is still calling his shot like Michael Kay saying ‘see ya’ during a Yankees game
I think the Tri-State area will be over the hump before too long.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2020 10:38 pm : link
But then it'll be elswhere. My buddy who lives in Atlanta thinks they're going to get hit hsrd.
I'm FREE!  
TJ : 4/2/2020 10:43 pm : link
Or at least as free as any of us are these days.
72 hours symptom free after almost three weeks of being quarantined with the virus. I only had to use 4 sick days plus a weekend with fever where it was all I could do to keep fluids going and eat occasionally. Had to sleep a couple nights in a chair.

But my wife and I both ended up with mild/medium symptoms and neither of us had to go to the hospital. Given we're both over 60 we feel pretty lucky. I only had to use 4 sick days because I'm able to work from home and there were only 6 days where I was just too beat up to even do that. My wife will be going back to work Saturday if she stays well. I'll probably be going in too to catch up on things that need hands on. We both work at a local hospital and I know they're short so we're glad to be able to go back.

Feeling very fortunate.
That’s great new TJ  
UConn4523 : 4/2/2020 10:48 pm : link
glad to hear you and your wife are doing ok after all of that.
btw...  
trueblueinpw : 4/2/2020 10:50 pm : link
the mrs just reminded me - the CDC headquarters is located in Atlanta, Georgia. wow... I mean, you can’t make this stuff up. its almost as if there’s some kind of contest between idiots to see how many innocent people they can kill.
RE: I'm FREE!  
MetsAreBack : 4/2/2020 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14857825 TJ said:
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Or at least as free as any of us are these days.
72 hours symptom free after almost three weeks of being quarantined with the virus. I only had to use 4 sick days plus a weekend with fever where it was all I could do to keep fluids going and eat occasionally. Had to sleep a couple nights in a chair.

But my wife and I both ended up with mild/medium symptoms and neither of us had to go to the hospital. Given we're both over 60 we feel pretty lucky. I only had to use 4 sick days because I'm able to work from home and there were only 6 days where I was just too beat up to even do that. My wife will be going back to work Saturday if she stays well. I'll probably be going in too to catch up on things that need hands on. We both work at a local hospital and I know they're short so we're glad to be able to go back.

Feeling very fortunate.


Awesome stuff Tj. Thanks for sharing. Check that box, and thank you for your immunity! Easily 5%, Maybe 10% of cities have been infected and immunized by now. Maybe more. Stay positive everyone.
RE: I think this is going to have major, long-term effects on society  
AcidTest : 4/2/2020 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14857687 Gary from The East End said:
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People are going to be much more careful about public gatherings well after the virus has cleared out.

More people are going to demand full or part time telework. More meetings are going to be via videoconference.

A lot of businesses are going to go away.


Agreed.
RE: nygiants16  
MetsAreBack : 4/2/2020 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14857689 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I really do think is going to change our society, for awhile @ least. Bill Simmons made this point on his pod the other day. Let's say you're @ an NBA game this coming January & someone behinds you cough. In the past, you probably wouldn't have given it a seconds thought. Now people are going to be like, 'Wow. I don't want to be near this guy.'

Hopefully, if anything good comes of this, it will make people practice good hygiene. I'm a total germaphobe so I was washing my hands like 20 times a day before this craziness began, but hopefully other people start doing this too.


Amazon I think is the company - checking every employees temperature when they get to work. This will be part of life for the next 2 years —airports and mass events like sports and concerts. If you have a temperature, sorry no admission
RE: A little bit of good news from my own social circles  
AcidTest : 4/2/2020 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14857726 Matt in SGS said:
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My wife's friend's mother, in her upper 70s, wasn't feeling well with cold like symptoms, but not the respiratory issues, started to feel worse and was brought to the hospital on Sunday in NJ (I think near Morristown). She was admitted and they noticed issues with heart and kidneys and was going into organ failure. She was tested and diagnosed positive with Covid yesterday. She was given the treatments we have heard about (malaria drug) and started to feel better. So much so that she was moved out of the hospital today and into a new Covid rehab facility where she will spend a little time on the medication and observation and will then be allowed to return home.

This was amazing news because it seemed extremely bleak 24 hours ago. And this is exactly the type of data that medical professionals are tracking and looking at to find a treatment as a vaccine is created. So I know each case is different, and there is a long road ahead, but at least in this case for her mom, it seems to have worked.


Great news. I hope she feels better and recovers fully.
RE: I'm FREE!  
AcidTest : 4/2/2020 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14857825 TJ said:
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Or at least as free as any of us are these days.
72 hours symptom free after almost three weeks of being quarantined with the virus. I only had to use 4 sick days plus a weekend with fever where it was all I could do to keep fluids going and eat occasionally. Had to sleep a couple nights in a chair.

But my wife and I both ended up with mild/medium symptoms and neither of us had to go to the hospital. Given we're both over 60 we feel pretty lucky. I only had to use 4 sick days because I'm able to work from home and there were only 6 days where I was just too beat up to even do that. My wife will be going back to work Saturday if she stays well. I'll probably be going in too to catch up on things that need hands on. We both work at a local hospital and I know they're short so we're glad to be able to go back.

Feeling very fortunate.


Fantastic. Best wishes to you both.
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Bill2 : 6:20 am : link
At a task force meeting this week, Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told others there are too many variables at play in this pandemic to make the models reliable: “I’ve looked at all the models. I’ve spent a lot of time on the models. They don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models.”

Key Concept: "There are too many variables at play in this pandemic to make the models reliable"

This is not a luddite put down of models or modelers. That would be foolish. Its a comment about modeling this phenomenon at this time.

If a person with expertise ( and there are others who say the same) says that why should we over rotate on models at this time?

Its a hard situation to deal with precisely because patience in the face of the unknowns is required.
Rocco you are really too ignorant to spend  
BlueLou'sBack : 6:37 am : link
so much effort writing, and so little reading:

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The world is still waiting for a HIV vaccine and that broke out in the 80's.


I studied HIV at UC Berkley in the mid late 80s, read everything I could find on it and wrote a paper on it summarizing the challenge it presented as a disease going forward. A challenge that has been largely met and overcome.

Way back then I wrote that it was unlikely a vaccine would ever be developed for HIV, it's far too mutable.

Way back then it was known that although one given strain of HIV can start an infection leading to AIDS, by the time AIDS symptoms appear (with it's typically very long lag time and incubation period) the patient with AIDS could transmit hundreds of HIV strain variants to his partner-victims. It's the nature of the virus, we couldn't develop a working vaccine given its extreme mutability.

Please try to read more and post less drivel and dire predictions. Ignorance is not our friend.

PS Covid-19 isn't a "germ", it's a virus. There's a difference.
Gary said  
Bubba : 6:43 am : link
I think this is going to have major, long-term effects on society
Gary from The East End : Admin : 4/2/2020 7:47 pm : link : reply
People are going to be much more careful about public gatherings well after the virus has cleared out.

More people are going to demand full or part time telework. More meetings are going to be via videoconference.

A lot of businesses are going to go away.


This is my fear as well. Things are going to change.
Bill2 listening to the radio yesterday AM on the FAN  
BlueLou'sBack : 6:54 am : link
and they're doing a nice job covering noteworthy news of the virus's spread not scientifically but more via official health announcements combined with anecdotal stories provided often by folks calling in to the show.

One chap calling from Idaho Falls, a town of 55.000 on the Southeastern large plain of the state, said that people there, where the virus has barely touched down (yet), folks were largely paying not attention whatsoever to guidelines about social distancing, let alone wearing face masks to prevent droplet borne transmission of the virus.

When entire communities pay no heed to the pandemic, or at least no heed to prevention of it's transmission, it's hard to forecast via models.

To my wild guess this thing causes many asymptomatic infections among the young and healthy, and until we get way, way more tests performed on those asymtomatic carries we will have no ability to accurately predict it's course - given folks won't or simply don't take effective measures to stop its spread until it's made serious inroads to a given community.
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