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Giants FA rumors: Post any news here

Jay on the Island : 3/16/2020 12:26 pm
I thought it would be a good idea to consolidate all the rumors pertaining to the Giants on one thread. Let's try to keep this thread clean and post only news from trusted media sources.
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Leonard Floyd  
PaulN : 3/17/2020 12:38 pm : link
Is being released by the Bears, I know he has underwhelmed, he made under 3 mil last season, I know we were interested in him when he came out, maybe he can be had on a 1 year prove it deal, I could see him having a good year if he fits in the type defense we will run, you resign Golden even and that could work.
RE: Leonard Floyd  
Philu916 : 3/17/2020 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14839118 PaulN said:
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Is being released by the Bears, I know he has underwhelmed, he made under 3 mil last season, I know we were interested in him when he came out, maybe he can be had on a 1 year prove it deal, I could see him having a good year if he fits in the type defense we will run, you resign Golden even and that could work.

Worst case scenario is he doesn’t work on a prove it deal
"Worst case scenario is he doesn’t work on a prove it deal"  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 1:16 pm : link
You worry about these bottom feeder signings when you've run down your cap space and still hjave holes to fill.

Currently we still have $35M to spend. Floyd and other similar failures and injury cases(Daryl Williams)can wait.
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Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14839211 Torrag said:
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You worry about these bottom feeder signings when you've run down your cap space and still hjave holes to fill.

Oh so like Levine Toilolo?
RE:  
Brown Recluse : 3/17/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14839211 Torrag said:
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You worry about these bottom feeder signings when you've run down your cap space and still hjave holes to fill.

Currently we still have $35M to spend. Floyd and other similar failures and injury cases(Daryl Williams)can wait.


I think they probably have the capability to work with multiple players at once and forecast various cap scenarios at the same time.
"Oh so like Levine Toilolo?"  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 1:25 pm : link
Toiloilo isn't a prove it failure deal nitwit. He's a role player specialist. So dumb.
"forecast various cap scenarios at the same time"  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 1:28 pm : link
You don't commit cap resources to reclamation projects until the active market for desirable players dries up. Period.
RE:  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14839234 Torrag said:
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Toiloilo isn't a prove it failure deal nitwit. He's a role player specialist. So dumb.

Nice name-calling! Definitely strengthens your point that Darryl Williams and Leonard Floyd are bottom feeder signings but Toiloilo who may not make the team is a top of the market priority signing. Can't argue with such a line of thinking.
"Can't argue with such a line of thinking"  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 1:40 pm : link
I provided facts. You invented nonsense. You're debate skills are non existent.
RE: Some of you really need to edit your replies.  
section125 : 3/17/2020 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14838866 Klaatu said:
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Take an extra minute or two and stop cluttering up the board.


Yep, really not difficult to trim the sections you are not replying to from the post when replying. Takes about 15 seconds to delete a few sentences.
RE: FA Rumors vs Discussion  
TheMick7 : 3/17/2020 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14839008 Big Blue Hokie said:
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Can we make this thread just for Giants FA Rumors and not discussions on other topics? I hate Marc Ross as much as anyone but how is that related to FA Rumors?


Agree I ignore anything he says & if he comes on the NFL Network,I change the channel!!!
your "facts"  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 1:48 pm : link
are nothing but a straw man argument. You're stating your opinion which isn't supported by what happens every NFL offseason. I don't have interest in arguing with you further so this is the last I'll say on the topic then I'm moving on.

Williams is a former all-pro who would be penciled in as the starter at RT. They currently don't have a RT. Floyd would be a situational pass rusher. Apparently in your world though you don't prioritize those things over a tight end who may be competing for a roster spot? Give me a break. Clearly you are talking out of your ass and you probably realized your point didn't make any sense hence why instead of actually supporting your point you decided to instead act like a jerk.
strahan I don't want to get into insults  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 1:51 pm : link
but you're on of the dumbest, least knowledgeable football posters on the site. I'm not engaging you anymore. You're not worth my time or effort. Go on spewing garbage. No one gives you any credence.
Nice. Lots of "facts" to continue supporting your "argument".  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 1:53 pm : link
I tried to engage with you in good faith but clearly you have some serious growing up to do.
Torrag vs Strahan  
Reale01 : 3/17/2020 2:22 pm : link
3 rounds 8 oz gloves? Or do you guys prefer the octagon?

Seriously you each make some points. I get that some opinions are better thought out but there really is no right or wrong here just discussion and opinion.
heh, you guys are fighting about Levine Toilolo  
Heisenberg : 3/17/2020 3:00 pm : link
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Not all that exciting but still Giants' FA rumor  
Pete in MD : 3/17/2020 3:12 pm : link
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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6m
Jets are in the market for a backup QB. Veteran Matt Moore played well for Adam Gase in Miami when needed. He would be solid Sam Darnold insurance.

But keep an eye on the Giants, who have made it known that they’d be interested in having Moore as Daniel Jones’ backup in 2020.
RE: Not all that exciting but still Giants' FA rumor  
Heisenberg : 3/17/2020 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14839396 Pete in MD said:
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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6m
Jets are in the market for a backup QB. Veteran Matt Moore played well for Adam Gase in Miami when needed. He would be solid Sam Darnold insurance.

But keep an eye on the Giants, who have made it known that they’d be interested in having Moore as Daniel Jones’ backup in 2020.


He's a good backup. Be happier with him than Tanney
I would love Matt Moore as the backup  
Jay on the Island : 3/17/2020 3:58 pm : link
I assumed that he would retire again.
I have tried to hold back and be optimistic but...  
Affirmation : 3/17/2020 4:20 pm : link
Again, this incompetent idiot is doing his best to build another team that won't make significant progress next season and that's even with a new coaching staff. I get it, Dave Gettleman does do some things right but the problem comes down to the fact that he can't seem to ultimately build a successful team. A lot of this has to be with how he handles Free Agency and Trades which as we all know is a large part of building a team that can look to challenge in the league. I can't seriously understand how anyone can look at these transactions so far and be satisfied with what we are doing compared to the value other teams are getting.
Agreed  
Jripper7799 : 3/17/2020 4:29 pm : link
DG is a bumbling idiot. We need an impact player on defense and all we got so far are pieces. Clowney, wont happen with this "Clown" running the circus unfortunately. All the big time lineman and defensive ends are going elsewhere. We still have holes everywhere and DG is pacing himself instead of moving his ass....
RE: I have tried to hold back and be optimistic but...  
The_Boss : 3/17/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14839545 Affirmation said:
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Again, this incompetent idiot is doing his best to build another team that won't make significant progress next season and that's even with a new coaching staff. I get it, Dave Gettleman does do some things right but the problem comes down to the fact that he can't seem to ultimately build a successful team. A lot of this has to be with how he handles Free Agency and Trades which as we all know is a large part of building a team that can look to challenge in the league. I can't seriously understand how anyone can look at these transactions so far and be satisfied with what we are doing compared to the value other teams are getting.


As others have said there is a lot working against the franchise right now.
Remember:
Record wise they’ve been the worst team across multiple seasons
They’ve turned over 3 coaches in a short period.
The unknown of yet another coach
NJ State income taxes.
And, like it or not, Dave Gettleman’s presence is a negative.
for going into his 3rd yr  
Payasdaddy : 3/17/2020 4:39 pm : link
sure a ton of holes on this team
We still need around 2 ER and a safety on D, and a couple that are high impact an ILB that can cover too
arent connelly and martinez very similiar?
offense
2 olinemen at least 1 more WR
We can probably fill 1 or 2 holes in FA
hopefully 3-4 in draft
DG I have soured on
Were...  
Jripper7799 : 3/17/2020 4:45 pm : link
The only team in the league who has 10 run stuffers on our D line, zero of them can push the pocket or pass rush and 16 million of that is dedicated to a guy who had 2 and a half sacks. The man is brilliant as a GM.
Feels a little early  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 4:49 pm : link
for the negative sentiment from posters above. I know people are frustrated and the Giants don't deserve the benefit of the doubt but it's not like there aren't a ton of impact players still on the market. If they sign none then I can see why people would be pissed off but they haven't missed on any glaring obvious guys yet (aside from choosing Martinez over Littleton or Schobert).
I would have hoped for a pass rusher of some sort by now  
Rjanyg : 3/17/2020 4:50 pm : link
Clowney is probably out of reach and may not be fiscally responsible but Jenkins, Fowler or re-signing Golden would be a good move.
Can you guys create you own "crying thread"  
ZogZerg : 3/17/2020 4:54 pm : link
And keep this nonsense off of the FA rumors thread?

Jesus H.
agree Rjanyc  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 4:56 pm : link
but Clowney and Fowler are unsigned and the top two guys who hit the market so I can't complain until they sign elsewhere.
RE: RE: sorry my bad.....I got a little  
djm : 3/17/2020 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14837987 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14837977 Jonesin 4 A Ship said:


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excited.....damn it



For one brief, shining moment, djm got wood thanks to you.


I didn't even see this rumor until much later. Thankfully, no premature wood for this guy. Not that I need any help from a 255 pound war daddy...NTTAWWt

RE: I would have hoped for a pass rusher of some sort by now  
Klaatu : 3/17/2020 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14839611 Rjanyg said:
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Clowney is probably out of reach and may not be fiscally responsible but Jenkins, Fowler or re-signing Golden would be a good move.


I really didn't want to sign a big-ticket pass-rusher this year. For one thing, I haven't given up hope that Carter and/or Ximines will improve with better coaching and a better scheme. For another, I think the Giants will look to add an ER/OLB at some point in the draft.

What I'd like to see them do is sign a stopgap, a veteran who still has something left in his tank, to act as a situational pass-rusher. Vinny Curry would be my choice.

In addition, I'd like to see more improvements to the Secondary. Bradberry was a good start, but I'm still hoping the Giants can sign a veteran FS to team up with Peppers and Love in sub-packages. Try to force more coverage sacks and INT's.
Any news on Connor McGovern?  
Saquads26 : 3/17/2020 5:54 pm : link
He’d be a nice pickup
RE: Any news on Connor McGovern?  
Anakim : 3/17/2020 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14839753 Saquads26 said:
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He’d be a nice pickup


Agreed. I want him
McGovern either has tons of interest to sort through...  
Torrag : 3/17/2020 5:59 pm : link
or his ask is way above his performance level which is good but not elite or he'd have signed by now.
Denver didn't seem too desperate to re-sign him.  
yatqb : 3/17/2020 6:01 pm : link
What do you see in him? I sure didn't watch much of Denver, but he's another smallish C like Pulley. I wonder if Gates or a draft choice starts there for us next year.
If not McGovern, they should sign Karras  
jeff57 : 3/17/2020 6:02 pm : link
They need a center who can play.
RE: Denver didn't seem too desperate to re-sign him.  
Anakim : 3/17/2020 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14839772 yatqb said:
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What do you see in him? I sure didn't watch much of Denver, but he's another smallish C like Pulley. I wonder if Gates or a draft choice starts there for us next year.


I just want a fucking Centre who doesn't get pushed back consistently
Cameron Fleming (OT Cowboys)...  
Mike in St. Louis : 3/17/2020 6:19 pm : link
probably pure speculation but....

"ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Cowboys won't exercise OT Cameron Fleming's option.

It's still possible Dallas brings him back for less than his $4 million option would have entailed. The 27-year-old swing tackle is also a candidate to reunite with Giants OC Jason Garrett in New York."
Well there goes that  
Saquads26 : 3/17/2020 6:33 pm : link
The #Jets are signing former #Broncos C Conner McGovern, per @MMehtaNYDN. GM Joe Douglas continues to work on the offensive line.
I'd be surprised if we don't see 1 or 2 OL added  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2020 6:37 pm : link
Karras and Williams seem like 2 of the better remaining options.

Looney and Flemming a little bit lesser.

Someone like Marcus Gilbert would be ok too.

And if the Jags are shopping someone like Brandon Linder, that would be a really nice pickup.

None of those moves would prevent drafting at least 1 OL early on too.
Leonard  
Saquads26 : 3/17/2020 6:40 pm : link
“ Keep an eye on #Patriots’ Ted Karras as a possibility for #Giants. Filled in well for David Andrews last season.”
RE: Leonard  
Anakim : 3/17/2020 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14839856 Saquads26 said:
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“ Keep an eye on #Patriots’ Ted Karras as a possibility for #Giants. Filled in well for David Andrews last season.”


Seems like he's the best C available, so cool with me
Adding Karras and Daryl Williams would be solid moves  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2020 7:08 pm : link
that's 5 guys with starting experience at their respective positions, 3 who have made pro bowls, plus Gates and Pulley.

That really gives them some flexibility in the draft to do anything from drafting Solder's immediate + long term replacement in round 1 or a couple more developmental players.
RE: Adding Karras and Daryl Williams would be solid moves  
Strahan91 : 3/17/2020 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14839924 Eric on Li said:
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that's 5 guys with starting experience at their respective positions, 3 who have made pro bowls, plus Gates and Pulley.

That really gives them some flexibility in the draft to do anything from drafting Solder's immediate + long term replacement in round 1 or a couple more developmental players.

Fleming is another possibility at RT I would think
yup I'm sure Flemming is on the list somewhere  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2020 7:14 pm : link
I'd prefer the other 2 just because of the upside, but if they are high on Gates at RT, Flemming might make more sense as a cheaper option.
RE: RE: Adding Karras and Daryl Williams would be solid moves  
The_Boss : 3/17/2020 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14839933 Strahan91 said:
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In comment 14839924 Eric on Li said:


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that's 5 guys with starting experience at their respective positions, 3 who have made pro bowls, plus Gates and Pulley.

That really gives them some flexibility in the draft to do anything from drafting Solder's immediate + long term replacement in round 1 or a couple more developmental players.


Fleming is another possibility at RT I would think


Dan Metro Man had a thread maybe 2 weeks ago breaking down both Williams and Fleming. In it, you will see metrics some posters and I provided on both players that do not paint pretty pictures. They were, actually, awful. Signing either of those 2, especially Fleming, would be asking for problems.
Gates looked pretty decent at OT last couple of games  
Payasdaddy : 3/17/2020 7:20 pm : link
if he can get a little stronger with offseason, maybe a decent RT
at least he didnt suck out there
Garafolo says we are in on Leonard Floyd - I'd love that  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2020 7:29 pm : link
he has a first step that nobody else on this team has had since Osi left town.
RE: Garafolo says we are in on Leonard Floyd - I'd love that  
Jon in NYC : 3/17/2020 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14839981 Eric on Li said:
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he has a first step that nobody else on this team has had since Osi left town.


Then why does he have 7 sacks in two years.
Floyd  
XBRONX : 3/17/2020 7:32 pm : link
has been a huge bust. No thanks
Floyd  
Marty866b : 3/17/2020 7:35 pm : link
Yuk! A linebacker in a wider receiver body.
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