I thought it would be a good idea to consolidate all the rumors pertaining to the Giants on one thread. Let's try to keep this thread clean and post only news from trusted media sources.
don't want to sign here. If that's the reason, then I guess nothing can be said and I can't blame them. This is a franchise that has been losing for almost a decade straight and has lost 9 games in the last two seasons. If they have a plan, it doesn't really seem to be apparent outside of being at least somewhat sold on Daniel Jones. Everything else kind of seems up in the air at best. And I guess these FA's aren't being won over with what the Giants are telling them in their meetings with them in free agency.
the whole over investment at CB argument has been debunked and destroyed. The assets used there including Baker were more than reasonable and a lot less than many NFL teams. Signing Bradberry puts us a lot more in line with most teams at what is a critical position requiring at least three very good players to be successful.
the whole over investment at CB argument has been debunked and destroyed. The assets used there including Baker were more than reasonable and a lot less than many NFL teams. Signing Bradberry puts us a lot more in line with most teams at what is a critical position requiring at least three very good players to be successful.
and the defensive tackles? How many of those do we need?. We had like 3 before he took Lawrence (when there was an edge rusher sitting there), then we gave up picks to trade for Williams who is yet another defensive tackle. it makes zero sense. They have no plan.
You need 4 good ones. These big boys have to rotate. Again our investment there is in line with what it takes to be successful. Look at the 49ers group for example. They have much more sunk into draft picks and money invested than we do. Four man line but still not close.
You aren't very knowledgeable about roster construction are you?
They drafted how many CBs the last 2 years? and then they spend their one big deal on a CB like Bradberry who I like, but still whats the plan?. Linebackers is basically a revolving door from average to below average, Littleton would have been a piece you could build with.. He constantly drafts defensive tackles despite having how many? THey're not push rushers, you dont need 10 of them.
Seriously, obviously we're in a rebuild, but what exactly is the plan here?
What would you expect management to publicly announce about their plan to rebuild the franchise? Who they will target in free agency? Who they will target in the draft? What positions they will prioritize?
That isn't how any team in any sport works.
I would agree that not signing a viable Center is concerning
Their were not many on the market or any great OL prospects but I really liked McGovern and would have felt really good if we could have strengthened at least one of the C/RT positions this offseason.
I can understand the Bradberry signing, I am warming to the Martinez signing, I actually really like Fackrell..the guy is a total under the radar signing.
Tagging Williams was predictable and he is a good player.
Hopefully we find a Center in the draft.
RE: What makes anyone think the Giants personnel department
can choose a decent OT in the draft. I am not convinced they can. Why are we wasting premium 1st round picks on this position over and over again. It is a tough position to evaluate especially for the Giants. Stop wasting these picks already. The fans always think they have the answer but they never do. Sick of it myself. Who was the last decent LT drafted by the Giants Jumbo Elliott ?
"Over and over again?" Not really. It's actually been three since 1999, two since 2012. Perhaps if, in the last ten years, the Giants had drafted one less CB in the 1st round and one more OT instead, they would have been better off. Ditto for RB.
Does anyone know why we have not tried to re-sign Golden?
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
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RE: RE: RE: Does anyone know why we have not tried to re-sign Golden?
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
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I hear your frustration but we don't know what Jenkins is asking for. Maybe like Floyd, it's also too much for who he is. Fowler got paid very well for who he is too. He's had 1 double digit sack season (like the guy we signed for much less) and that took playing on a defense with Aaron Donald. I wouldn't have given him that contract personally.
I'd still like to bring Golden back and will hold out hope until we hear he signed elsewhere.
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
I hear your frustration but we don't know what Jenkins is asking for. Maybe like Floyd, it's also too much for who he is. Fowler got paid very well for who he is too. He's had 1 double digit sack season (like the guy we signed for much less) and that took playing on a defense with Aaron Donald. I wouldn't have given him that contract personally.
I'd still like to bring Golden back and will hold out hope until we hear he signed elsewhere.
Yes Fowler got paid a ton, but Jenkins isn’t or at least shouldn’t be asking for that. So they should be ponying up for him. They can back load his contract in years 2/3 and with the cap rising, it’s not gonna look like a bad deal at all in the future. The prices for players is only going to do the to go up. I’m so frustrated with the moves we continue to make. And ppl will say, they still have the draft but I don’t want to hear that. We’ve ignored OL in the draft year after year, minus Flowers and Hernandez. And we haven’t hit on a pass rusher since JPP. Again, shit needs to change.
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Jenkins is looking for a deal worth $13M/year. Definitely too rich for him.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Have they been killing it in free agency for the past couple of years?
Jenkins is looking for a deal worth $13M/year. Definitely too rich for him.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
If Jenkins has another year where he has 6-8 sacks, but has 40-45 tackles with it, $13M next season would look like a massive steal if the cap goes to the $250M range. $13M AAV can look like $17-$18M AAV...
Jenkins is looking for a deal worth $13M/year. Definitely too rich for him.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
If Jenkins has another year where he has 6-8 sacks, but has 40-45 tackles with it, $13M next season would look like a massive steal if the cap goes to the $250M range. $13M AAV can look like $17-$18M AAV...
Exactly, these guys arguing against spending clearly don’t understand Inflation lol. Next years guys are gonna make soooo much more. But instead we sit around and sign 3rd string blocking TE’s who made $800k last year and give them $3.5mil this year. But hey, I don’t know shit.
I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Nah, wrong guy. They're f'ed up a ton for sure. But, look at it objectively, they've been drafting WAY better than FA pickups that's for sure. I'd rather they have spent big money on an impact player - you wanna hitch your wagon to Kennard?
Good luck. Keep ranting buddy.
If you're going off of sack numbers strictly then sure
but both Smith's were/are far superior players to Jenkins. Even just using advanced stats which doesn't tell the full story, Jenkins blitzed 58 times this past year and in total amounted to 4 hurries, 4 qb knockdowns, and 16 pressures.
That comment was totally a joke right? Was it reported anywhere that DG offered him a deal?
. Is this true ? Maybe Judge can get him to be all he can be in NYC. He is a true game changer if her wants to be. Put him and Williams on the line together and draft Simmons. We are contenders next year. Instantly.
a quick point about the state of the roster if we all step back
there are 22 offensive/defensive starters. Heading into FA, you could make an argument that we had 16 positions with relatively clear starters (i'm counting Love at FS, though I think that one is certainly debatable):
9 players on offense (all except C, RT)
7 on defense (needed 1 CB, 2 LB, 1 DL)
Of those 16 starters by the way, 12 were draft picks in the last few years. 2 were trades (Zeitler/Peppers) and 2 were FA's (Solder, Tate).
Tagging LW and signing Bradberry/Martinez/Fackrell hit each of the 4 starting spots on D. It is absolutely fair to disagree and argue on which players should have been signed for those open slots, but IMO no matter who we signed the more consequential factor of where this team is going next year is how the new coaching staff does developing and getting the most out of those 12 homegrown players who were already here and the additional players added in the draft next month - at least 2 of whom are likely to be day 1 starters.
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
That comment was totally a joke right? Was it reported anywhere that DG offered him a deal?
. Is this true ? Maybe Judge can get him to be all he can be in NYC. He is a true game changer if her wants to be. Put him and Williams on the line together and draft Simmons. We are contenders next year. Instantly.
If Clowney was a game changer, Houston would not have traded him and Seattle would not have let him go. Now, 3 strikes and you’re out.
RE: I'd be all over this - Thompson is a solid ball hawk
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
Coming off an injury, but I like your train of thought here. There are some interesting signs he can make plays...
Are generally hard for Safeties to come back from 100% effective they were before injury. He’s still young so has that going for him in regards to recovery.
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
If he could be bad for a late round pick sign me up. That would allow Love to play the slot more often and Graham could deploy 3 safety sets like the Giants did years ago when they signed Deon Grant.
specifically a rangy centerfielder would allow Love to play slot and Peppers to play in the box - both seemed to do well in those roles.
Clinton Dix would be a fit but you've got to think that if Judge had a good review on him from the Saban crew he might have been an initial target. I believe Graham was on the staff when he was in GB too.
Surprised we’ve heard nothing on Oline Free Agents yet?!
We need to get a RT or Center in Free Agency. Are the Giants waiting for prices to drop? I suppose they’re looking at guys that could be a 1 or 2 year rental and focusing on drafting guys that could become eventual starters?!
RE: Surprised we’ve heard nothing on Oline Free Agents yet?!
We need to get a RT or Center in Free Agency. Are the Giants waiting for prices to drop? I suppose they’re looking at guys that could be a 1 or 2 year rental and focusing on drafting guys that could become eventual starters?!
We need to get a RT or Center in Free Agency. Are the Giants waiting for prices to drop? I suppose they’re looking at guys that could be a 1 or 2 year rental and focusing on drafting guys that could become eventual starters?!
Draft is deep in OL.
I think it’s almost a guarantee that we draft Oline, however, as DG has stated, don’t go shopping hungry.
It's troubling.
and the defensive tackles? How many of those do we need?. We had like 3 before he took Lawrence (when there was an edge rusher sitting there), then we gave up picks to trade for Williams who is yet another defensive tackle. it makes zero sense. They have no plan.
You aren't very knowledgeable about roster construction are you?
Seriously, obviously we're in a rebuild, but what exactly is the plan here?
What would you expect management to publicly announce about their plan to rebuild the franchise? Who they will target in free agency? Who they will target in the draft? What positions they will prioritize?
That isn't how any team in any sport works.
I can understand the Bradberry signing, I am warming to the Martinez signing, I actually really like Fackrell..the guy is a total under the radar signing.
Tagging Williams was predictable and he is a good player.
Hopefully we find a Center in the draft.
"Over and over again?" Not really. It's actually been three since 1999, two since 2012. Perhaps if, in the last ten years, the Giants had drafted one less CB in the 1st round and one more OT instead, they would have been better off. Ditto for RB.
Because we are waiting on Clowney to accept our offer... (hopefully)
Maybe we have/are trying?
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Is it he wants too much money or that they don't he's any good?
Because we are waiting on Clowney to accept our offer... (hopefully)
What was the offer?
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
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Is it he wants too much money or that they don't he's any good?
Because we are waiting on Clowney to accept our offer... (hopefully)
What was the offer?
Actual info that NYG offered Clowney a deal or is this a guess?
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
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I hear your frustration but we don't know what Jenkins is asking for. Maybe like Floyd, it's also too much for who he is. Fowler got paid very well for who he is too. He's had 1 double digit sack season (like the guy we signed for much less) and that took playing on a defense with Aaron Donald. I wouldn't have given him that contract personally.
I'd still like to bring Golden back and will hold out hope until we hear he signed elsewhere.
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I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
I hear your frustration but we don't know what Jenkins is asking for. Maybe like Floyd, it's also too much for who he is. Fowler got paid very well for who he is too. He's had 1 double digit sack season (like the guy we signed for much less) and that took playing on a defense with Aaron Donald. I wouldn't have given him that contract personally.
I'd still like to bring Golden back and will hold out hope until we hear he signed elsewhere.
Yes Fowler got paid a ton, but Jenkins isn’t or at least shouldn’t be asking for that. So they should be ponying up for him. They can back load his contract in years 2/3 and with the cap rising, it’s not gonna look like a bad deal at all in the future. The prices for players is only going to do the to go up. I’m so frustrated with the moves we continue to make. And ppl will say, they still have the draft but I don’t want to hear that. We’ve ignored OL in the draft year after year, minus Flowers and Hernandez. And we haven’t hit on a pass rusher since JPP. Again, shit needs to change.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
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I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
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I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Have they been killing it in free agency for the past couple of years?
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Jenkins is looking for a deal worth $13M/year. Definitely too rich for him.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
If Jenkins has another year where he has 6-8 sacks, but has 40-45 tackles with it, $13M next season would look like a massive steal if the cap goes to the $250M range. $13M AAV can look like $17-$18M AAV...
I disagree. I think that is about right for a 25 year old who has accrued 15 sacks in 2 years.
Check the contracts that the Smith's got from Green Bay with similar production but they were 1 year older.
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Jenkins is looking for a deal worth $13M/year. Definitely too rich for him.
Every contract is too rich! It’s the NFL. And next years contracts will be higher, and the year after that, and the year after that. You have to pay players. It’s simple.
If Jenkins has another year where he has 6-8 sacks, but has 40-45 tackles with it, $13M next season would look like a massive steal if the cap goes to the $250M range. $13M AAV can look like $17-$18M AAV...
Exactly, these guys arguing against spending clearly don’t understand Inflation lol. Next years guys are gonna make soooo much more. But instead we sit around and sign 3rd string blocking TE’s who made $800k last year and give them $3.5mil this year. But hey, I don’t know shit.
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I know we aren’t competing for championships this year or maybe even next year, but they could’ve signed some impact players with the cap space they had and fought for one of the 3 wild card spots. Instead they continue to ignore OL and Edge, our two most important weaknesses.
I’m so tired of seeing beat writers tell us that said player is priced above our range. Like they aren’t trying to get better, at least they aren’t acting like it. And I’m never one to be one of those “sky is falling” guys, but when I spend my hard earned money each year on season tickets I expect an effort. Now they’re saying that Jenkins is costing too much as well? I mean cmon. I totally agree with not paying Floyd $13mil, well done there. But to not try and get a Jenkins, Fowler, Re-sign Golden, or Hell even give Kennard money to come back is ridiculous. He only got $20 mil over 3 hrs from ARZ. Shit needs to change.
End rant.
You’re ranting about Jenkins, Golden, Fowler, Kennard?
Come on.
You realize we still have the draft right?
I’d rather draft OL or Edge than tie up $20m-$30m on marginal players we will cut in a year.
This is the typical response from a Giants fan who continues to believe in an organization to a fault. Smh. Because they’ve been killing drafts right? Please stop it.
Nah, wrong guy. They're f'ed up a ton for sure. But, look at it objectively, they've been drafting WAY better than FA pickups that's for sure. I'd rather they have spent big money on an impact player - you wanna hitch your wagon to Kennard?
Good luck. Keep ranting buddy.
In 2018 before signing their deals:
ZS: blitzed 49 times, 12 hurries, 13 qb knockdowns, and 35 pressures.
PS: blitzed 32 times, 12 hurries, 9 knockdowns, 26 pressures.
I'm using profootballreference but if you were to use PFF the numbers are even more lopsided.
Oh lol.
9 players on offense (all except C, RT)
7 on defense (needed 1 CB, 2 LB, 1 DL)
Of those 16 starters by the way, 12 were draft picks in the last few years. 2 were trades (Zeitler/Peppers) and 2 were FA's (Solder, Tate).
Tagging LW and signing Bradberry/Martinez/Fackrell hit each of the 4 starting spots on D. It is absolutely fair to disagree and argue on which players should have been signed for those open slots, but IMO no matter who we signed the more consequential factor of where this team is going next year is how the new coaching staff does developing and getting the most out of those 12 homegrown players who were already here and the additional players added in the draft next month - at least 2 of whom are likely to be day 1 starters.
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
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That comment was totally a joke right? Was it reported anywhere that DG offered him a deal?
. Is this true ? Maybe Judge can get him to be all he can be in NYC. He is a true game changer if her wants to be. Put him and Williams on the line together and draft Simmons. We are contenders next year. Instantly.
If Clowney was a game changer, Houston would not have traded him and Seattle would not have let him go. Now, 3 strikes and you’re out.
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
Coming off an injury, but I like your train of thought here. There are some interesting signs he can make plays...
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Seattle #Seahawks starting free safety Tedric Thompson has been given permission to seek a trade, source said. Would likely be for a late-round draft pick.
If he could be bad for a late round pick sign me up. That would allow Love to play the slot more often and Graham could deploy 3 safety sets like the Giants did years ago when they signed Deon Grant.
If Clowney was a game changer, Houston would not have traded him and Seattle would not have let him go. Now, 3 strikes and you’re out.
Maybe not a game changer, but a very good player. The issue appears to be that he has overpriced himself.
He would have a big positive impact on the Giants defense, but more than 20 million a year is too much.
Clinton Dix would be a fit but you've got to think that if Judge had a good review on him from the Saban crew he might have been an initial target. I believe Graham was on the staff when he was in GB too.
Draft is deep in OL.
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We need to get a RT or Center in Free Agency. Are the Giants waiting for prices to drop? I suppose they’re looking at guys that could be a 1 or 2 year rental and focusing on drafting guys that could become eventual starters?!
Draft is deep in OL.
I think it’s almost a guarantee that we draft Oline, however, as DG has stated, don’t go shopping hungry.
apparently its according to Marc Ross.