Bills are trading a 1st-round pick, a 5th-round pick, a 6th-round pick and a 2021 4th-round pick for Vikings WR Stefon Diggs and a 2020 7th-round pick, source tells ESPN
Re-signing Zeke was a big mistake. If I'm Dallas, I'm testing the market to see what kind of trade value is available.
And go RBBC with Pollard leading the way...
Not happening. Looks like they double downed on Zeke with a restructuring (likely converted most of his 2020 base to a bonus payment spread over 5 years).
“ The #Redskins are signing former #Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller, per @john_keim. Fuller was originally drafted by Washington but was sent to Kansas City in the Alex Smith trade. Now headed back to the #Redskins. A big need filled.”
a long post, said in CAPS, 'FOREVER A PATRIOT'
He didn't say where though, probably draw that out until
tomorrow, beg. of official free agency, just a guess.
The Chargers, the Bucs?
who BB is going to bring in to compete with Stidham.
That kid is only a 4th. Rd. pick, very curious.
Hey, 20 years is a lonnnng time in one organization
for a guy like Brady. When it's starts to get stale...
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
Respectfully, can we move this and other discussions like it to a separate thread?
Why sign these guys for 2 years? They have no QB. If they draft one, he needs time to develop. These high priced guys will be gone by the time he develops.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
Crazy good value here. They definitely can make the trade to nab their QB. If they have Herbert, Tua or Love very highly, he goes 2. Only way not is if Skins are enamored with a QB as well or enamored with Young and refuse to pass up. Easily can be 5 and 26 for 2 in which WASH don’t say no.
If Detroit at that point wants to replace Slay with Okudah, things can get very interesting.
Why sign these guys for 2 years? They have no QB. If they draft one, he needs time to develop. These high priced guys will be gone by the time he develops.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Because they are relatively easily replaced in 2 years. None of them are cornerstones and the length of their contracts reflects that.
Why sign these guys for 2 years? They have no QB. If they draft one, he needs time to develop. These high priced guys will be gone by the time he develops.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
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Big news: Based on the previous discussions between the #Panthers organization and Cam Newton’s agents, it has been agreed upon to allow Cam and his agency team to seek a trade. Other details to follow.
Why sign these guys for 2 years? They have no QB. If they draft one, he needs time to develop. These high priced guys will be gone by the time he develops.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes were both competing for the SB by their respective Year 2s. Putting a good team around a guy can help him develop.
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
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How come Elway's teams' got lambasted the first three times he was in a Super Bowl?
He didn't win until TD arrived on the scene at the end of his career,
that's a fact. 'Three of the worst teams ever' is an embellishment I would say. His decision making wasn't always the best.
He was a better athlete, not a better QB.
I would say Montana and Brady are 1A and 1B.
I wouldn't say he was more accurate then Brady, and Brady had a much stronger arm. He wasn't as athletic as
Joe Cool, and Montana could hurt you with his feet.
Montana could beat you more ways, I agree there.
Yes, it was a different era.
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
All that cost cutting and dumping players like Minkah Fitzpatrick, Kenyan Drake, etc. to spend all this money on these guys? The only really good player of the bunch is Jones. Van Noy’s stint in Detroit still makes me leery of spending big $$ on him. Flowers needs no explanation and Lawson and Ogbah are nothing that special.
For Miami, it was all about acquiring draft capital, similar to what Gettleman did in 2018, but on a much larger scale. That's what bad team should do. Use established players as resources that allow you to build through the draft as much as you can. Short term pain, long term gain.
All that cost cutting and dumping players like Minkah Fitzpatrick, Kenyan Drake, etc. to spend all this money on these guys? The only really good player of the bunch is Jones. Van Noy’s stint in Detroit still makes me leery of spending big $$ on him. Flowers needs no explanation and Lawson and Ogbah are nothing that special.
My understanding is that they preferred to keep Minkah Fitzpatrick but he demanded a trade and they moved quickly before his value was degraded by an ugly drawn out process.
Former #Rams LB Cory Littleton has an agreement to join the #Raiders, source said, on a 3-year deal worth up to $36M. It has a base value of $11.75M per year.
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I've always liked Rivers, but I think he's shot. So I don't like this move by the Colts, even if Rivers will play in mostly cozy temperatures, which he had in San Diego, btw.
Re-signing Zeke was a big mistake. If I'm Dallas, I'm testing the market to see what kind of trade value is available.
And go RBBC with Pollard leading the way...
Bills are trading a 1st-round pick, a 5th-round pick, a 6th-round pick and a 2021 4th-round pick for Vikings WR Stefon Diggs and a 2020 7th-round pick, source tells ESPN
This is huge for the Bills. They’re legit.
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Dak tagged, Elliot and Cooper. LoL the NFL.
Re-signing Zeke was a big mistake. If I'm Dallas, I'm testing the market to see what kind of trade value is available.
And go RBBC with Pollard leading the way...
And the got weaker with the loss of Jones
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Dak tagged, Elliot and Cooper. LoL the NFL.
Re-signing Zeke was a big mistake. If I'm Dallas, I'm testing the market to see what kind of trade value is available.
And go RBBC with Pollard leading the way...
Not happening. Looks like they double downed on Zeke with a restructuring (likely converted most of his 2020 base to a bonus payment spread over 5 years).
Good move and a good price.
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He didn't say where though, probably draw that out until
tomorrow, beg. of official free agency, just a guess.
The Chargers, the Bucs?
That kid is only a 4th. Rd. pick, very curious.
Hey, 20 years is a lonnnng time in one organization
for a guy like Brady. When it's starts to get stale...
Yep.
The greatest NFL QB ever, who played for the greatest NFL team ever, which was led by the greatest NFL coach ever.
And there's no close second.
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That Brady news marks the end of an era.
Yep.
The greatest NFL QB ever, who played for the greatest NFL team ever, which was led by the greatest NFL coach ever.
And there's no close second.
I'd say Joe Montana was a pretty close second, and he played at a time when you could murder QB's and WR's alike.
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
Respectfully, can we move this and other discussions like it to a separate thread?
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That Brady news marks the end of an era.
Yep.
The greatest NFL QB ever, who played for the greatest NFL team ever, which was led by the greatest NFL coach ever.
And there's no close second.
Eh....Eli and Tom beat them twice on the biggest stage...I think that's a close second.
2 yrs. $15M.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1239925240454688768
2 yrs. $15M.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1239925240454688768
Really good value IMO
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
They will move up to the 3rd pick and get Tua. What an offseason for Miami. Tom Brady leaves the AFC East is still the biggest move lol.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
Crazy good value here. They definitely can make the trade to nab their QB. If they have Herbert, Tua or Love very highly, he goes 2. Only way not is if Skins are enamored with a QB as well or enamored with Young and refuse to pass up. Easily can be 5 and 26 for 2 in which WASH don’t say no.
If Detroit at that point wants to replace Slay with Okudah, things can get very interesting.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Because they are relatively easily replaced in 2 years. None of them are cornerstones and the length of their contracts reflects that.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Miami spending like this guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvE84AGMWpE
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Big news: Based on the previous discussions between the #Panthers organization and Cam Newton’s agents, it has been agreed upon to allow Cam and his agency team to seek a trade. Other details to follow.
But, they are winning in March, this is for sure!
Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes were both competing for the SB by their respective Year 2s. Putting a good team around a guy can help him develop.
Montana was the better QB. He was a genius. He could move, throw on the run, was a magnificent deep ball thrower, and had pinpoint accuracy in an era where QBs really played under duress.
Elway was a better QB. There was absolutely nothing he couldn’t do as a QB. He took three of the worst teams I’ve ever seen to the SB. They lost but the way he dragged them there was lights out. And like Montana, he played in an era where you could really treat the QB like any other player with the ball...
How come Elway's teams' got lambasted the first three times he was in a Super Bowl?
He didn't win until TD arrived on the scene at the end of his career,
that's a fact. 'Three of the worst teams ever' is an embellishment I would say. His decision making wasn't always the best.
He was a better athlete, not a better QB.
I would say Montana and Brady are 1A and 1B.
I wouldn't say he was more accurate then Brady, and Brady had a much stronger arm. He wasn't as athletic as
Joe Cool, and Montana could hurt you with his feet.
Montana could beat you more ways, I agree there.
Yes, it was a different era.
Byron Jones: 5 years, $82.5M
Kyle Van Noy: 4 years, $51M
Shaq Lawson: 3 years, $30M
Ereck Flowers: 3 years, $30M
Emmanuel Ogbah: 2 years, $15M
Also: Miami has picks 5, 18, 26, 39 and 56 in the first two rounds of the 2020 draft.”
All that cost cutting and dumping players like Minkah Fitzpatrick, Kenyan Drake, etc. to spend all this money on these guys? The only really good player of the bunch is Jones. Van Noy’s stint in Detroit still makes me leery of spending big $$ on him. Flowers needs no explanation and Lawson and Ogbah are nothing that special.
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My understanding is that they preferred to keep Minkah Fitzpatrick but he demanded a trade and they moved quickly before his value was degraded by an ugly drawn out process.
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There goes one draft trade partner...
Was fairly obvious yesterday that’s where they were heading. Indy might head into 2020 as the favorites in the South.
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There goes one draft trade partner...
Not necessarily. Teddy can bridge the gap to a younger QB down there.
I've always liked Rivers, but I think he's shot. So I don't like this move by the Colts, even if Rivers will play in mostly cozy temperatures, which he had in San Diego, btw.