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Giants sign Cam Fleming

Strahan91 : 3/18/2020 9:01 pm
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We’re cornering the Stanford market  
Anakim : 3/18/2020 9:02 pm : link
But he’s a good swing tackle
Woah  
aGiantGuy : 3/18/2020 9:02 pm : link
Simmons back in line??
Great depth  
Ben in Tampa : 3/18/2020 9:02 pm : link
Is he going to be asked to start at RT?
One year deal  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2020 9:03 pm : link
Per Mike G.
1 year deal  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/18/2020 9:03 pm : link
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Yes!!!!  
Reb8thVA : 3/18/2020 9:03 pm : link
All our OL woes are solved.
Well there's the swing tackle  
Nine-Tails : 3/18/2020 9:03 pm : link
Round 1 will be Tackle or Simmons at this point, leaning tackle. I hope they can trade back with the Chargers.
Championship...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/18/2020 9:04 pm : link
...yup.
Cheap too  
Saquads26 : 3/18/2020 9:05 pm : link
Cam Fleming's deal maxes out at $4 million -- the same number he was due from the rival #Cowboys on his option, which they declined.
Sorry link to $ from Tom Pelissero  
Saquads26 : 3/18/2020 9:06 pm : link
...
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1240443938957332481?s=21 - ( New Window )
We can thank Colombo for  
FranknWeezer : 3/18/2020 9:06 pm : link
this one
Still need a Center  
Rjanyg : 3/18/2020 9:07 pm : link
I like this signing and was hoping for him a year ago. He played a solid RT in New England before he was in Dallas
are  
mittenedman : 3/18/2020 9:08 pm : link
we collecting bad OL and LBs still?

Swing tackle to compete  
Jay on the Island : 3/18/2020 9:08 pm : link
With a 1st or 2nd round pick.
Little better  
XBRONX : 3/18/2020 9:08 pm : link
than Remmers. Glad one year. He can backup Wills.
Lol  
djm : 3/18/2020 9:08 pm : link
Wtf does this have to do with the draft and Simmons?? Cmon.
RE: are  
Saquads26 : 3/18/2020 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14841787 mittenedman said:
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we collecting bad OL and LBs still?


Have you ever watched a game before?
RE: Woah  
Reb8thVA : 3/18/2020 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14841766 aGiantGuy said:
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Simmons back in line??


Doubtful. Its a one year deal. Plus if Gettleman foregoes a chance at a franchise LT he should run out of town.
Can't hurt...  
bw in dc : 3/18/2020 9:10 pm : link
Hell, I'd rather have him play than Solder.

RE: RE: Woah  
Saquads26 : 3/18/2020 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14841793 Reb8thVA said:
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Simmons back in line??



Doubtful. Its a one year deal. Plus if Gettleman foregoes a chance at a franchise LT he should run out of town.


I wouldn’t touch any of the Tackles in this draft at #4
Nice signing.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/18/2020 9:12 pm : link
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MOOPS : 3/18/2020 9:12 pm : link


"I'll take free agents I never heard of for $500 Alex."
RE: Woah  
Nine-Tails : 3/18/2020 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14841766 aGiantGuy said:
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Simmons back in line??


Both Simmons and OT are the likely choices at 4. We still lack speed at linebacker. And our tackle situation speaks for it self. Even if we signed Conklin, an OT would still be in play cause Solder is gone after this year most likely.
RE: Championship...  
lecky : 3/18/2020 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14841777 Brown_Hornet said:
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...yup.


Original
RE: .  
Saquads26 : 3/18/2020 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14841799 MOOPS said:
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"I'll take free agents I never heard of for $500 Alex."


You clearly didn’t watch many games last year. We played against him twice. He only gave up 2 sacks all year.
RE: RE: .  
MOOPS : 3/18/2020 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14841802 Saquads26 said:
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"I'll take free agents I never heard of for $500 Alex."



You clearly didn’t watch many games last year. We played against him twice. He only gave up 2 sacks all year.


1. He played exactly 3 snaps against us in exactly one game in 2019.
2. 12/19.
3. Google Humor.
Two sacks  
XBRONX : 3/18/2020 9:24 pm : link
in three games. Not great.
Fleming stinks  
ChicagoMarty : 3/18/2020 9:26 pm : link
He is Bobby Hart bad!
RE: We can thank Colombo for  
FranknWeezer : 3/18/2020 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14841782 FranknWeezer said:
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this one

In fairness, I should also mention Garrett and Judge, from his time in NE.
RE: RE: Woah  
section125 : 3/18/2020 9:29 pm : link
In comment 14841793 Reb8thVA said:
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Simmons back in line??



Doubtful. Its a one year deal. Plus if Gettleman foregoes a chance at a franchise LT he should run out of town.


If you want a tackle....do they need one(or two) yes. They also need a speed linebacker, badly. If they stay at #4 Simmons is definitely in play.

I am leaning toward a trade back for an extra #2 and then one of the tackles at 6, 7 or 9..and a C with the extra #2.
RE: Fleming stinks  
GFAN52 : 3/18/2020 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14841822 ChicagoMarty said:
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He is Bobby Hart bad!


No one could be that bad.
Back to Dumpster Diving OL  
WillVAB : 3/18/2020 9:36 pm : link
Yay
He's  
AcidTest : 3/18/2020 9:36 pm : link
a one year stop gap like Remmers.
Fleming  
ChicagoMarty : 3/18/2020 9:37 pm : link
is worse
RE: RE: RE: Woah  
Jay on the Island : 3/18/2020 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14841826 section125 said:
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Simmons back in line??



Doubtful. Its a one year deal. Plus if Gettleman foregoes a chance at a franchise LT he should run out of town.



If you want a tackle....do they need one(or two) yes. They also need a speed linebacker, badly. If they stay at #4 Simmons is definitely in play.

I am leaning toward a trade back for an extra #2 and then one of the tackles at 6, 7 or 9..and a C with the extra #2.

That’s my plan as well. Wirfs, Thomas,Wills, or Becton in round 1 then ER Zack Baun and C Cesar Ruiz in round 2. That would be one hell of a start to the draft.
why not just try and bring remmers back  
japanhead : 3/18/2020 9:41 pm : link
at that point? gettleman's plug and chug, musical chairs approach to building an OL has been a failure.
Assuming the plan is for him to be the swing tackle  
Breeze_94 : 3/18/2020 9:41 pm : link
if thats the case, I really like the signing. Has a ton of experience and can step in if needed. Considering the lack of quality tackle play around the league, Fleming is a very good option as a swing guy.

Fleming, Gates, Pulley would be nice depth for the OL.

Wirfs/Wills in R1, Biadasz/Hennessy with pick 98 or 105.
He’s terrible.  
The_Boss : 3/18/2020 9:41 pm : link
This is an awful signing. He might be a downgrade from Remmers.
I am encourage, because Bobby Hart is the best.RT  
George from PA : 3/18/2020 9:42 pm : link
Yes.

I can not say for fact....as i do not know enough....but feel he is better then Remmers.

Another FA....that was driven by the positional coach.

But I sure hope, we got the right coaches....because is the definition of insanity....doing the same thing and expecting different results
Don’t think Giants are done in Free Agency  
Simms11 : 3/18/2020 9:42 pm : link
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Who said he's going to start?  
Anakim : 3/18/2020 9:44 pm : link
I hope he doesn't start. He should be the swing OT. The first OT off the bench.


We still need a starting OT...
RE: He’s terrible.  
The_Boss : 3/18/2020 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14841843 The_Boss said:
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This is an awful signing. He might be a downgrade from Remmers.


Fleming PFF 59.4
Remmers PFF: 64.3

The best place he can be this year  
The_Boss : 3/18/2020 9:48 pm : link
Is on the sideline. You don’t want him playing a lot.
According to this forum…  
VinegarPeppers : 3/18/2020 9:51 pm : link
According to this forum… every signing has sucked. These are the scars from “17 years of lousy football” plus another seven during the more recent downturn.
RE: Don’t think Giants are done in Free Agency  
VinegarPeppers : 3/18/2020 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14841845 Simms11 said:
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I think they are. I think they came in wanting to sign a lot of players to build a foundation that could win 8 games with a decent draftRather than have all the money gobbled up by one or two stars.
2019 Sacks Allowed and % of Offensive Snaps Played  
shyster : 3/18/2020 9:57 pm : link
Cameron Fleming 2 SA/22.9%
Bobby Hart 4 SA/98.9$
Mike Remmers 5 SA/81.5%
Nate Solder 12 SA/94.6%

Sacks allowed are from Washington Post (linked)

Snap count %s from Football Outsiders


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It's only a bad signing if he is penciled in as the starter  
Anakim : 3/18/2020 10:00 pm : link
He provides depth at both tackle spots. That's what you want in a swing tackle.
Why  
AcidTest : 3/18/2020 10:00 pm : link
not just stay with Gates as the swing tackle?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Woah  
Rjanyg : 3/18/2020 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14841839 Jay on the Island said:
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Simmons back in line??



Doubtful. Its a one year deal. Plus if Gettleman foregoes a chance at a franchise LT he should run out of town.



If you want a tackle....do they need one(or two) yes. They also need a speed linebacker, badly. If they stay at #4 Simmons is definitely in play.

I am leaning toward a trade back for an extra #2 and then one of the tackles at 6, 7 or 9..and a C with the extra #2.


That’s my plan as well. Wirfs, Thomas,Wills, or Becton in round 1 then ER Zack Baun and C Cesar Ruiz in round 2. That would be one hell of a start to the draft.


If we pass on Simmons ( and we might ) I’ll be sad because his is a freak football player. But trading back and getting an early 2nd might allow a draft of Wills, Baun, Ruiz and that would be outstanding.
If he's going to be a backup, ok  
Greg from LI : 3/18/2020 10:08 pm : link
If they signed him with the intention of starting him.....woof.
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