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NGT: Deal In Place, Pending Contract, CB Slay To Eagles

Saos1n : 3/19/2020 1:14 am
Ugh
I think you should wait to feel  
Really : 3/19/2020 1:23 am : link
dismayed until you see the draft compensation and the extension specifics.

He’s 29 and I think it’s arguable his best football is behind him.

However, if they’re both reasonable, I’m right there with you.
damn  
Torrag : 3/19/2020 2:51 am : link
of all teams to get him.

On the bright side Detroit is taking Okudah #3 now so we can move on from that.
Detroit just signed Desmond Trufant  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 5:20 am : link
And their LBs and DTs are a mess. So Simmons and Brown are still in play for them.
Trufant / Slay  
lugnut : 3/19/2020 7:06 am : link
So they let 29-y.o. Slay walk only to sign 29-y.o. (turns 30 at season start) Trufant (2 yrs, $21M). I have no idea what that franchise is doing, and neither do they or anyone else.
RE: Detroit just signed Desmond Trufant  
Reb8thVA : 3/19/2020 7:11 am : link
In comment 14842025 jeff57 said:
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And their LBs and DTs are a mess. So Simmons and Brown are still in play for them.


If I’m Detroit I still make a trade with the Dolphins or the Chargers knowing that I will get one of Brown, Simmons, or Okuda.

I hate the Eagles but I got to give them credit. They know what they need and aggressively go out and get it. Their plans don’t always work but more often than not they do
Yea  
mittenedman : 3/19/2020 7:16 am : link
we bring in bums like Fleming, Martinez, Fackrell etc and the Eagles continue to get impact players.

It's going to be a long road out of this mess and the team doesn't look like it's building much of consequence right now.
Slay and Trufant are different people  
George from PA : 3/19/2020 7:29 am : link
Sending one out and bringing one in

Is not the same thing, just because their age is similar....

RE: Yea  
section125 : 3/19/2020 7:53 am : link
In comment 14842053 mittenedman said:
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we bring in bums like Fleming, Martinez, Fackrell etc and the Eagles continue to get impact players.

It's going to be a long road out of this mess and the team doesn't look like it's building much of consequence right now.


You are starting to sound like Dave in Hoboken. The Eagles are a playoff team. The Giants are just putting people on the field that are upgrades to what was there previously. I also don't think Fackrell is a bum and neither is Martinez.
RE: Yea  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2020 8:19 am : link
In comment 14842053 mittenedman said:
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we bring in bums like Fleming, Martinez, Fackrell etc and the Eagles continue to get impact players.

It's going to be a long road out of this mess and the team doesn't look like it's building much of consequence right now.


The Eagles missed out on the top CBs. Meanwhile we signed one. That's why they're attempting to trade for Slay.
Other side of this...  
scotepsu22 : 3/19/2020 8:26 am : link
Slay had a down year last year - PFF graded him 97th out of 133 cornerbacks in coverage. This should cost the Eagles a 2nd or 3rd round pick in addition to making Slay one of the highest paid CBs in the league. Pretty risky coming off the year he had. If you watched Detroit games over the years, Slay is constantly hurt in game; nagging lower body injuries where he's always coming off the field.

I'd much rather sign a younger, more durable Bradberry without giving up trade assets to a more responsible contract.

RE: Trufant / Slay  
Dankbeerman : 3/19/2020 8:30 am : link
In comment 14842049 lugnut said:
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So they let 29-y.o. Slay walk only to sign 29-y.o. (turns 30 at season start) Trufant (2 yrs, $21M). I have no idea what that franchise is doing, and neither do they or anyone else.


Have to see tbe money going to Slay from Ohilly before judgements can be made. Would think he more in the 3 for 45 range then 2 for 21
Philly knows they’re a playoff team and they had to address  
The_Boss : 3/19/2020 8:55 am : link
Their weakness. I thought Jones would be their guy. He wasn’t, so Howie had to make a deal. They’re an older team in win now mode and they recognize that and build their roster as such. Now their other need is pass rush. Haven’t seen any link with them to Clowney. That would kinda suck if they got him. And unfortunately, I’m guessing they go 2-0 vs the NYG again in 2020....

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Done  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:09 am : link
Schefter
Link - ( New Window )
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:10 am : link
Eagles are trading a third- and fifth-round pick in 2020 draft to Detroit for Darius Slay, per source.
.  
Saquads26 : 3/19/2020 9:12 am : link
Eagles are trading for Lions CB Darius Slay and making him one of the highest-paid corners in the league, per @RapSheet 💰
Interesting  
ajr2456 : 3/19/2020 9:12 am : link
What a 3 and a 5 can get you....
Of all the moves to go after DG on this  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/19/2020 9:13 am : link
Is not the one. Bradberry is younger and better at this point. And they aren’t giving up on Baker and Beal yet.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:17 am : link
The deal after the deal: the Eagles and new CB Darius Slay reached agreement on a 3-year, $50 million extension that includes $30 million guaranteed, @RosenhausSports tells ESPN.
RE: Interesting  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2020 9:22 am : link
In comment 14842182 ajr2456 said:
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What a 3 and a 5 can get you....


A 30 year old coming off a terrible season?
29 actually  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:23 am : link
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...  
BleedBlue : 3/19/2020 9:25 am : link
everyone looks at this and says wow look wat a 3 and 5 get you but its about timing...

slay might not have been available when we got williams....we werent in the corner market either as we had jjst drafted a bunch and needed to eval that. slay and LW trades arent apples to apples
RE: ...  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 14842207 BleedBlue said:
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everyone looks at this and says wow look wat a 3 and 5 get you but its about timing...

slay might not have been available when we got williams....we werent in the corner market either as we had jjst drafted a bunch and needed to eval that. slay and LW trades arent apples to apples


He was available. They wanted more at the time.
RE: 29 actually  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 14842203 jeff57 said:
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Sorry a 29 year old coming off a terrible season whose now the highest paid CB in the NFL
RE: RE: Interesting  
ajr2456 : 3/19/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 14842199 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14842182 ajr2456 said:


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What a 3 and a 5 can get you....



A 30 year old coming off a terrible season?


What was Williams coming off of?
Okudah...  
V.I.G. : 3/19/2020 9:30 am : link
Trufant is a stop gap. That could be their trade down target.
Detroit signed Jamie Collins and Danny Shelton  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:35 am : link
But they still need to upgrade DT and LB. Brown and Simmons remain in play for them.
Slay now highest paid corner  
jeff57 : 3/19/2020 9:37 am : link
Topping Jones's contract
so are the Lions going to pick Okudah?  
US1 Giants : 3/19/2020 9:41 am : link
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Art Stapleton (@art_stapleton)
3/19/20, 9:12 AM
Lions trade Darius Slay to the Eagles. Immediate thought: NFL Draft implications for Lions at 3 with Jeffrey Okudah on the board. Could be significant win for Giants' trade down options if that's the way Detroit goes.

More juice at 4 with Dolphins, Chargers likely eyeing QBs


Giants would be in a prime trade down spot.
The  
AcidTest : 3/19/2020 10:45 am : link
Lions could trade with Miami, figuring that they can take Okudah at five since we just signed Bradberry and have used a ton of picks on CBs the last two drafts.
I like Slay but that's a bad deal for the Eagles  
rasbutant : 3/19/2020 11:10 am : link
I'm glad they did this vs Signing Jones.
Slay has an off-year and this is a bad deal...  
bw in dc : 3/19/2020 12:03 pm : link
Fasincating.

LW has had an off-career, based on his draft position, and yet that trade is still defended.

I have a pretty good hunch Slay bounces back and shows his Pro Bowl form. And we keep waiting for LW to be anything other than a JAG-plus.
Though I hate the LW deal and I'm not doing backflips over  
shyster : 3/19/2020 12:20 pm : link
James "no Pro Bowls and 61 PFF rating" Bradberry . . .

I do think this is a worse move, at least on the face of things.

Age matters. Slay is three and a half years older than LW; two and half older than Bradberry; big drop off in his performance rating for the Lions last year.

I'm surprised Philly would do this after their experience with Nnamdi.

NNamdi was also 29 in the spring of 2011, the year of the "Dream Team" that turned into nightmare.
If the Eagles has signed Bradberry and the Giants  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/19/2020 12:46 pm : link
DG made this deal and sign for the Giants, the DG haters would be all over what a shit move this is and how Gets should be fired because of it.

Right?
RE: RE: Yea  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/19/2020 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14842079 section125 said:
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In comment 14842053 mittenedman said:


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we bring in bums like Fleming, Martinez, Fackrell etc and the Eagles continue to get impact players.

It's going to be a long road out of this mess and the team doesn't look like it's building much of consequence right now.



You are starting to sound like Dave in Hoboken. The Eagles are a playoff team. The Giants are just putting people on the field that are upgrades to what was there previously. I also don't think Fackrell is a bum and neither is Martinez.


Meaning, he's right. So, because the Giants weren't a playoff team last year they can't do more than 'upgrade what they had on the field previously?' Whatever the fuck that means. The hoops some jump through..
I think we have the better player.  
FStubbs : 3/19/2020 5:17 pm : link
The Eagles have the bigger name.

BUT - Slay won't count against the comp pick formula, Bradberry will.

Detroit's probably in on Okudah, meaning the draft starts at #4 with Tua and Herbert there and Miami sitting at #5.
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