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Vincent Rank of Sportsnaut says we are loser from FA

montanagiant : 3/22/2020 4:32 am
This is what Vincent said on Sportsnaut "The unfiltered sports juggernaut":
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Loser: New York Giants
I am not too sure what general manager Dave Gettleman is thinking. New York should be focused on a widespread rebuild under dynamic young quarterback Daniel Jones. Instead, the team has some sort of false sense that adding marginal players on big-money contracts can help it contend.

The Giants doled out a combined $74-plus million to linebacker Blake Martinez and cornerback James Bradberry. While the latter played well in Carolina, he was vastly overpaid. Meanwhile, Martinez was a replacement level starter during his time with the Green Bay Packers. New York will soon find out that overspending for other teams’ castoffs in free agency is not a winning strategy.


This is Vincent:


Vincent has never played a sport in his life.

Below is Vincent's link, don't click on it (unfortunately you have to link to the source) because Vincent is an idiot and it's not worth it
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So, why would you post it  
section125 : 3/22/2020 4:36 am : link
if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?
RE: So, why would you post it  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 4:53 am : link
In comment 14845538 section125 said:
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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?

Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?
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Mcphedge : 3/22/2020 5:03 am : link

No....it did nothin help sport!











In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?
This is sports journalism?  
Giantology : 3/22/2020 5:08 am : link
It seems like an amateur sports blog that has no actual media backing. Kinda like Bleacher Report before it got acquired. I don’t think it’s worth giving it more attention.
RE: RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 5:17 am : link
In comment 14845540 Mcphedge said:
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No....it did nothin help sport!
Is there a decoder ring included with that post?











In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:


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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?

RE: This is sports journalism?  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 5:19 am : link
In comment 14845541 Giantology said:
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It seems like an amateur sports blog that has no actual media backing. Kinda like Bleacher Report before it got acquired. I don’t think it’s worth giving it more attention.

That's why I warned it off. This actually was linked by MSN which I found baffling
That guy is swagalicious  
adamg : 3/22/2020 5:45 am : link
Yall are just jealous of his genious!
RE: That guy is swagalicious  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 5:58 am : link
In comment 14845544 adamg said:
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Yall are just jealous of his genious!

His hat completes the pic!
So this guy is  
Allen in CNJ : 3/22/2020 6:21 am : link
basically saying dump all your $$$$ into free agents and then hope you do well in the draft. Got it. Dumb.

Best way to build a franchise is THROUGH THE DRAFT!!!
RE: RE: That guy is swagalicious  
adamg : 3/22/2020 7:10 am : link
In comment 14845546 montanagiant said:
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Yall are just jealous of his genious!


His hat completes the pic!


It really does. He's looks like my nephew when he was thirteen.
Vincent  
nochance : 3/22/2020 7:38 am : link
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Besides this slob looks like the only thing he knows about is competitive eating
Why is his appearance  
bhill410 : 3/22/2020 7:43 am : link
Relevant here? It seems you don’t like his opinion and are going to lengths to disparage him based upon data points that aren’t really relevant. He may be a total blowhard but you don’t sound all that objective in pointing out why. Also if you happened to agree with his point would you be taking the same slant?
LOL  
ZogZerg : 3/22/2020 7:45 am : link
Many on BBI will be happy that you found and posted this garbage.
I long ago  
joeinpa : 3/22/2020 7:51 am : link
Stopped allowing much of what I hear or read be a factor in formulating an opinion about sports, politics, and many other contemporary issues.

I have a few sources I somewhat trust, all the rest I take very lightly.

As to Giants coverage, all too often it becomes apparent rather quickly that many of the sources reporting on our team are not as familiar with the Giants as we are, also too many have an agenda, that goes for some of the positive spinners as well
That's new one for BBI  
HomerJones45 : 3/22/2020 8:11 am : link
An OP with both the message and shooting the messenger in the same OP. How rude.

The polite thing to do is to simply post the message and leave to others the pleasure of shooting the messenger.
RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/22/2020 8:28 am : link
In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?

It's 2020. Anyone can build a website, even in Montana.

You don't have to read it and if you do, you don't have to post it or link to it.

Despite your warnings, I guarantee you just gifted that tool some clicks. Rookie move, MG. Keep the internet garbage that you stumble across to yourself.
The sports media conspiracy against the NYG  
LBH15 : 3/22/2020 8:29 am : link
continues.
Its like some of these You tube videos  
Chip : 3/22/2020 9:08 am : link
by people sitting in front of a mike acting like they are an expert and don't know shit.
I mean, whatever, we're all entitled to our opinion  
j_rud : 3/22/2020 9:14 am : link
and the internet makes all these opinions imminently more accessible. Thats the world we live in, and in many ways its a good/entertaining thing.

However...I find the wording at the end to be pretty funny. The idea that the Giants organization will soon learn something that Vincent Fucking Frank already knows is just *precious*.
RE: Its like some of these You tube videos  
adamg : 3/22/2020 9:17 am : link
In comment 14845624 Chip said:
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by people sitting in front of a mike acting like they are an expert and don't know shit.


Come on. Those guys are scouting the tape like experts. We all know all the scouts use YouTube.
Don't click a link  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 3/22/2020 9:26 am : link
that I provide. Include a picture of the guy and give us a little background information on him. Sounds a bit stalkerish, sport.
RE: The sports media conspiracy against the NYG  
BigBlueShock : 3/22/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14845592 LBH15 said:
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continues.

Your sarcasm is precious, but that guy is as much “sports media” as you and your aunt Eleanor
RE: RE: The sports media conspiracy against the NYG  
adamg : 3/22/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 14845654 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14845592 LBH15 said:


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continues.


Your sarcasm is precious, but that guy is as much “sports media” as you and your aunt Eleanor


You talking shit about the eminent Sportsnaut now? Fuck you dude.
Dude looks like he's  
rebel yell : 3/22/2020 9:42 am : link
had way too many pizza rolls in his Mom's basement. "Shut up and just bring me the pizza rolls, Mom. I'm trying to type down here.!"
Who knows —he may be right  
UberAlias : 3/22/2020 10:51 am : link
It’s not like our GM has a great track record in FA. Might it prove they spent a decent amount of money but didn’t improve that much? Would anyone honestly be shocked?
RE: RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14845591 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:


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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?


It's 2020. Anyone can build a website, even in Montana.

You don't have to read it and if you do, you don't have to post it or link to it.

Despite your warnings, I guarantee you just gifted that tool some clicks. Rookie move, MG. Keep the internet garbage that you stumble across to yourself.

Here's an idea....Be an adult and exercise your choice of what to read and what not on BBI
RE: Don't click a link  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14845643 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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that I provide. Include a picture of the guy and give us a little background information on him. Sounds a bit stalkerish, sport.

Did it hit a little too close to home?
Let me emphasize something yet again  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 12:36 pm : link
The only reason the link was provided was that I quoted what he wrote about the Giants. This is BBI policy.

The reason why I posted this was that this was not found on the dark dregs of the Internet, It was highlighted by MSN on their home page. I found it it funny that this would pass as actual journalism on a major website. That is all
RE: That's new one for BBI  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14845582 HomerJones45 said:
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An OP with both the message and shooting the messenger in the same OP. How rude.

The polite thing to do is to simply post the message and leave to others the pleasure of shooting the messenger.

You're most likely correct
RE: So, why would you post it  
Darth Paul : 3/22/2020 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14845538 section125 said:
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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


So true.
RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14845895 Darth Paul said:
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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?



So true.

See my 12:36 post which answers this
I don’t care if he played sports or not  
MtDizzle : 3/22/2020 12:58 pm : link
Vincent isn’t that far off. Fans need to take the loyal blinders off and look at things objectively. We blew our cap space away on a bunch of mediocre players when we are desperate for playmakers.
No different...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/22/2020 12:59 pm : link
...than most of the DG bashing bbiers.
RE: RE: Don't click a link  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 3/22/2020 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14845883 montanagiant said:
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Did it hit a little too close to home?


Do you mean have I ever posted an online picture from some random sports "journalist" on here as being close to home? No, I haven't weirdo. I actually just took visiting Montana off my bucket list now. Thanks.
He sounds like most of BBI  
JonC : 3/22/2020 1:07 pm : link
who fail to understand this UFA crop was unlikely to provide the boost they believed correlated to cap space.

Play the long game.
RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
81_Great_Dane : 3/22/2020 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:
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I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism
Serious question: Considered sports journalism by whom?

First, it's an analysis/opinion piece. Does this guy do reporting? is he a "journalist" or a guy who likes to write about football on the Internet? There are people in the latter category who do fantastic work, like Colin at GBN, but few people consider them "journalists"? Nor do they usually classify their work as journalism.

Second, I'd never heard of that site until I clicked on this thread. The page design looks professional, but I could put together a site that looks that good in a day with RapidWeaver. Is it a legit news site? Does it interview people, check facts, meet any professional journalism standards? Does it do original reporting or mainly recycle stories first reported elsewhere?

I honestly don't know because if I have ever been on that site before, I don't remember it. There are a bunch of great web sources for sports news, but this one? Never heard of it.
RE: Let me emphasize something yet again  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/22/2020 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14845892 montanagiant said:
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The only reason the link was provided was that I quoted what he wrote about the Giants. This is BBI policy.

The reason why I posted this was that this was not found on the dark dregs of the Internet, It was highlighted by MSN on their home page. I found it it funny that this would pass as actual journalism on a major website. That is all

The problem is you thinking that this is somehow curated by MSN. It's not. It's based on YOUR web history. You must have enough cookies to indicate that you're not especially selective about where you get your Giants news.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, why would you post it  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/22/2020 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14845880 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14845539 montanagiant said:


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In comment 14845538 section125 said:


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if it is garbage, include a link and then tell people not to go to the site?


Because I find it funny that this is what's considered sports journalism and when you quote an article you have to supply a link per BBI rules.

Did that help sport?


It's 2020. Anyone can build a website, even in Montana.

You don't have to read it and if you do, you don't have to post it or link to it.

Despite your warnings, I guarantee you just gifted that tool some clicks. Rookie move, MG. Keep the internet garbage that you stumble across to yourself.


Here's an idea....Be an adult and exercise your choice of what to read and what not on BBI

Or on the internet in general?

In a not at all shocking twist, your failure to understand how this is ironic seems to be on full display.
It involved the Giants  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 1:29 pm : link
It was posted on a major site
I shared that with BBI because this is a Giants board and there's not much else to talk about
You have a choice to not read it
Instead, for something not worth linking IYO you have invested quite a bit into the thread.
Do you not see the asinine irony in that?
RE: RE: Let me emphasize something yet again  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14845967 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14845892 montanagiant said:


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The only reason the link was provided was that I quoted what he wrote about the Giants. This is BBI policy.

The reason why I posted this was that this was not found on the dark dregs of the Internet, It was highlighted by MSN on their home page. I found it it funny that this would pass as actual journalism on a major website. That is all


The problem is you thinking that this is somehow curated by MSN. It's not. It's based on YOUR web history. You must have enough cookies to indicate that you're not especially selective about where you get your Giants news.

LMAO...You could not be further from the truth with this claim of my cookies causing it.

On MSN's front page there is a box in the upper left that cycles through all the news about politics, sports, crime, etc.... They update the box regularly with new stuff and you have arrows on either side to scroll through the subjects. The ONLY thing that is triggered by cookies is their ads, not the news.

So if you're going to sit here and pretend you know what you're talking about you might want to actually know wtf you're spewing.

Sorta like your moronic comparison of Barkley to Gurley!
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montanagiant : 3/22/2020 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14845947 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 14845883 montanagiant said:


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Did it hit a little too close to home?



Do you mean have I ever posted an online picture from some random sports "journalist" on here as being close to home? No, I haven't weirdo. I actually just took visiting Montana off my bucket list now. Thanks.

I'm sure they will be devastated
...  
christian : 3/22/2020 1:44 pm : link
This guy sure is a doofus.

That said after spending more timing watching, reading, and analyzing Martinez, I'm changing my tune on that contract.

He looks completely average. 14M is a lot of coin against the cap next year. I appreciate the easy out, but there will be guys making 10M less on one year deals who produce at the same clip next year I suspect.
RE: He sounds like most of BBI  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/22/2020 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14845950 JonC said:
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who fail to understand this UFA crop was unlikely to provide the boost they believed correlated to cap space.

Play the long game.


The fact we are out on Clowney, and the Bradberry signing, gives me hope DG is finally getting this FA thing. Bradberry is a guy that is going to be worth his contract as long as he start getting hit with injuries , guy can play, and is constantly around the ball. He's the perfect piece to be the "crown jewel" of our FA spending period. Plays a premium position, age and injury history is good, and his stats don't reflect what he puts out on the field.
RE: ...  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/22/2020 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14846006 christian said:
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This guy sure is a doofus.

That said after spending more timing watching, reading, and analyzing Martinez, I'm changing my tune on that contract.

He looks completely average. 14M is a lot of coin against the cap next year. I appreciate the easy out, but there will be guys making 10M less on one year deals who produce at the same clip next year I suspect.


The guy is completely average, he does give you a plus in leadership which has been sorely lacking in our lb corps, although I have hopes Connelly moves into that role as well, seems like the type.

Blake Martinez is 26, we are going to get his best years for the most part, and his contract gives us cap flexibility after next year. Sure his contract is 14 million next year, but after that he looks like a bargain. I think they will really trying to gear up in years 4/5 of the DJ era, which is smart.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Don't click a link  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 3/22/2020 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14845992 montanagiant said:
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I'm sure they will be devastated


At least I get to keep my skin intact and not have to worry about you wanting to cut it off and wear it ya weirdo.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Don't click a link  
montanagiant : 3/22/2020 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14846039 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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I'm sure they will be devastated



At least I get to keep my skin intact and not have to worry about you wanting to cut it off and wear it ya weirdo.

Yeah, that's a really good take from this to come up with. It sounds like you're projecting some odd fantasy you have.
...LOL
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montanagiant : 3/22/2020 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14846034 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14846006 christian said:


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This guy sure is a doofus.

That said after spending more timing watching, reading, and analyzing Martinez, I'm changing my tune on that contract.

He looks completely average. 14M is a lot of coin against the cap next year. I appreciate the easy out, but there will be guys making 10M less on one year deals who produce at the same clip next year I suspect.



The guy is completely average, he does give you a plus in leadership which has been sorely lacking in our lb corps, although I have hopes Connelly moves into that role as well, seems like the type.

Blake Martinez is 26, we are going to get his best years for the most part, and his contract gives us cap flexibility after next year. Sure his contract is 14 million next year, but after that he looks like a bargain. I think they will really trying to gear up in years 4/5 of the DJ era, which is smart.

I'm starting to fall into this camp also. One thing we know is he can tackle let's just hope he improves on his other aspects. After watching that SF vs GB playoff game and seeing that GB D get demolished in the run does not inspire
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christian : 3/22/2020 2:57 pm : link
Bradberry is a textbook good signing -- young, low mileage, high production, high durability.

You don't have to explain away signing him with platitudes like "tough, smart, easy to cut, a bargain, stabilizing, coach on the field" -- and the other horseshit thrown around the last two years.

I don't find the Martinez story compelling. If he exceeds who he's been, and you get over the 14M next year, then in years 2 and 3 he's a bargain?
I will say  
Carl in CT : 3/22/2020 8:58 pm : link
I expected a hell of a lot more than what we got.
RE: RE: He sounds like most of BBI  
JonC : 3/23/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 14846027 Zeke's Alibi said:
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who fail to understand this UFA crop was unlikely to provide the boost they believed correlated to cap space.

Play the long game.



The fact we are out on Clowney, and the Bradberry signing, gives me hope DG is finally getting this FA thing. Bradberry is a guy that is going to be worth his contract as long as he start getting hit with injuries , guy can play, and is constantly around the ball. He's the perfect piece to be the "crown jewel" of our FA spending period. Plays a premium position, age and injury history is good, and his stats don't reflect what he puts out on the field.


Same here. Pick your spots to incrementally improve the team, frontload the contract(s) so you reach the spending floor, and build the best team you can for 2020 while gearing up for a vital draft. It's going to be this way next offseason as well, unless the impact players they really want are available in UFA.

For example, given the tagged Edge rushers this year, Clowney was the flashiest name available, but also the easiest player to make a big overpay mistake on. So far, no team has made the error, which says a lot about Clowney.
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