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Big Free Agency spend almost over for NYG: draft impact

MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 4:08 pm
With the additions we've made I think our 2 biggest needs are still there. Tackle protection for a QB that has struggled with the peripheral pass rush at least so far. And an edge pass rusher even if we resign Golden. Right now Giants don't have even 1 proven double digit sack guy with Fackrell more a projection than Golden
was off injury last year (in terms of getting double digit sacks).

This really leads me to believe Giants go OT and Edge round 1 and round 2. Not necessarily position reaching wither. With 4 strong OT candidates up top in this draft value does line up with need. Also in round 2 Baun, Yetur Gross Matos and Usche could all be there as great value (or via a slight trade up.)

Round 1 : Wills/Becton/Wirfs/Thomas at 4 or slight trade down
Round 2: Gross Matos, Baun, Usche at 36 or slight trade up

Who are some other round 2 pass rushers we could see here or late round 1 via slight trade up?
no trade up  
Chip : 3/22/2020 4:16 pm : link
and take another OL either C or T
I think C is a bigger need than edge.  
j_rud : 3/22/2020 4:17 pm : link
Hell, its a bigger need than OT.
RE: I think C is a bigger need than edge.  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14846192 j_rud said:
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Hell, its a bigger need than OT.


J'rud.

Center is potentially a big need but just like they did with Pio, I think they may try Gates there next year. He took snaps last preseason at the spot and I think they really liked what they saw. To hedge their bets there I think we see a round 3 or round 4 Center. Not saying its the ideal plan but Gates has already shown much more in terms of verstaility and NFL caliber play than Pio ever has.
RE: no trade up  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14846188 Chip said:
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and take another OL either C or T


If we resign Golden this is even more possible.
Another Edge that might be there in Round 2 or 3 is:  
No Where Man : 3/22/2020 4:26 pm : link
Darrell Taylor of Tennessee
If we can trade with either Jax or LV  
Rjanyg : 3/22/2020 4:30 pm : link
We might be able to get both

Our first rounder for Jax 9 and 20

Becton and Gross Matos

Our first rounder for 12 and 19

Thomas and Chaisson


There are 3 needs I could still see being filled with vets  
Eric on Li : 3/22/2020 4:32 pm : link
1. DB - there's been talk of FS being on their list, they also don't have a slot. If there's 1 name player unsigned I can see them signing, I'd peg it as Logan Ryan.

2. C - no idea where they are going to get one, but it's hard to believe they go into camp with Pulley as the only vet. Unless they think of Gates as a C?

3. Edge - I expect a Barwin esque signing at some point, and there are a lot of options out there. It makes sense that they are monitoring Clowney but I think if he's cheap enough he will have an option to go elsewhere.
The type of edge the Giants need is Chase Young  
George from PA : 3/22/2020 4:34 pm : link
I do not think the need matches the talent otherwise, but OT does in the 1st.....and hopefully, a small trade down is even possible.

In the 2nd, center and FS matches up to need and talent better.
RE: The type of edge the Giants need is Chase Young  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14846216 George from PA said:
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I do not think the need matches the talent otherwise, but OT does in the 1st.....and hopefully, a small trade down is even possible.

In the 2nd, center and FS matches up to need and talent better.


There certainly can be an argument made for those 2 positions. However edge rush is one of the most important right after QB. If we resign Golden I'd be a bit more comfortable. And even that brings us to status quo with last year pending youth maturing and Farrell's impact there.
Matos  
Saquon'sQuadz : 3/22/2020 6:36 pm : link
isn't gonna last til round 2.. very much doubt that.
RE: Matos  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14846360 Saquon'sQuadz said:
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isn't gonna last til round 2.. very much doubt that.


You could be right. Which is why slight trade up was mentioned as an option.
RE: RE: Matos  
Saquon'sQuadz : 3/22/2020 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14846370 MeadowlandsMike said:
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In comment 14846360 Saquon'sQuadz said:


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isn't gonna last til round 2.. very much doubt that.



You could be right. Which is why slight trade up was
mentioned as an option.


Trade down to get more picks, draft the best OT available, use those extra picks to trade up hoping to get someone who can rush the QB, Matos, Epensea, etc.. not a bad idea.
All depends on Herbert's market  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 7:25 pm : link
That's the key
Before the draft, Giants need to figure out if They should pursue  
Ivan15 : 3/22/2020 7:35 pm : link
Clowney or not. If not, they need to figure out if Fackrell and Golden can be good enough. If not, they need to figure out how to get Young at theIf draft value sweet spot because everyone else is hit or miss.
JerseyJoe  
JonC : 3/22/2020 8:24 pm : link
is that you?
We have to get an OT in the 1st  
Rudy5757 : 3/22/2020 9:29 pm : link
Has to be a starter on left or right. We cant wait till the 2nd. Unless the highly unlikely happens and Young falls to us I believe its now better than 95% OT. I also believe they will take the gamble on Becton. The guy is just massive and has so much potential to be great. I am curious to see how Sy has him ranked.
RE: We have to get an OT in the 1st  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/22/2020 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14846534 Rudy5757 said:
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Has to be a starter on left or right. We cant wait till the 2nd. Unless the highly unlikely happens and Young falls to us I believe its now better than 95% OT. I also believe they will take the gamble on Becton. The guy is just massive and has so much potential to be great. I am curious to see how Sy has him ranked.


Becton is great but reports say DG loves Wirfs. We'll see.
if Chase Young  
Mr. Nickels : 3/22/2020 10:55 pm : link
is off the board we need to trade down. We didn't fill any needs in free agency.
DG's drafting ability.... We need a lot....10 Picks  
edavisiii : 3/23/2020 6:54 am : link
It's easy to defend any of the opinions expressed on this website as to what position to draft! Pass Rusher, OT, Center are all possibilities!
But, we don't have to do it in Round 1. Last Year, DG found two solid players in round 5. Sometimes the late round picks have talent but were not in great programs and didn't get great coaching in college. I think they can go BPS at #4 and #36 and still fill a lot of holes. You know there will be a time, where a highly rated WR falls, where DG won't be able to pass. But we have 10 picks and that can bring in a lot of talent. I think we go with Solder at LT for 1 more year and we see if Columbo can bring out the best in him. We need a center and ROT. Those can be found in the middle rounds. NE's OL is a collection of mid-round picks, Same for FS. I would not be surprised if he finds two starters in rounds 3 (supplemental) and 4! I can see a free safety, a WR who drops, or a developmental OL who ends up starting after a few games. Should be interesting!

Unless DG collects more picks  
LBH15 : 3/23/2020 7:13 am : link
First and second round go to the Oline.
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