I’ll start by saying I have no idea what I’m talking about when it comes to these things. I don’t know if Williams is a guy who could play his position at 280 pounds (listed currently at 302). But I remember back to when Michael Strahan dropped some weight and got quicker on the edge. Seemed to rejuvenate him.
I remember reading something on the site a while back about how, while Williams’ traditional stats this past season did not jump off the page, he was getting a fair amount of pressure and was a half a step from a handful more sacks this past season. Decent pressure, in other words. But just missing.
Taking a page from the old David Letterman skit, is this something? Or really nothing worth talking about?
I guess it depends on if they are planning him at DT or DE.
How much do guys like Donald and Buckner weigh?
Better player than his stats. With the Jets he usually started his pass rush from an inside position which made him easier to double than the DEs.
This begs the question - how is he being trained to get stronger, more powerful and more importantly how is he being trained to use his power most effectively.
They talk about teaching basic technique - but with a body type like a guy like Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams - there's gotta be a lot of differences in the application.
Another question is that he has those long gas hose arms - wonder if he is making the most of them?
Gonna try it with LW
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I want the cornerstone players to just be good as they are.
If he needs to lose weight, needs better edge rushers around him, needs better coaching, ... Is this really a cornerstone guy?
Williams, because he's bigger, if he goes to 280, he'll be faster.
Donald is the direct opposite; at 6'1", 284; he the classic fireplug strong man.
Amen Williams doesn't have the tenacity of MS
but he did improve the Defense , I wouldn't mind
moving on from BJ Hill but probably won,t gain much
He reminds me of OV in that he is almost always there, almost. He is tantalizingly close, play after play but does lack that last tiny win.
He seems quick, but just gets pushed away, or stymied at the last moment.
Power? maybe.
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That tape is great. Honestly would that many of us be disappointed if we traded a third for him in this off-season? He is a force up front and our run defense improved dramatically when he got here. Maybe an off-season with this new coaching staff and he might just turn the corner.
I want the cornerstone players to just be good as they are.
If he needs to lose weight, needs better edge rushers around him, needs better coaching, ... Is this really a cornerstone guy?
Bingo.
A single defensive player can be doubled, or avoided by the offensive plays called.
Two things here:
1) it's Strahan. No Y. Not sure why it's difficult to get the name of one of this generation's most significant Giants (and one who has remained extremely prominent since retirement) spelled correctly.
2) we don't know if the Giants intend to play a base 3-4 scheme. Everything they've said so far since Judge was hired has been consistent with being multiple and flexible and not married to a single scheme/alignment.
Strahan played the last couple of seasons of his career at 255ish. He was plenty effective.
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4-3 DE so did not need the mass of an interior line player. No matter how you slice it, LW is a DT.
Amen Williams doesn't have the tenacity of MS
but he did improve the Defense , I wouldn't mind
moving on from BJ Hill but probably won,t gain much
As long as you don't get hung up on things like wins or defensive statistics getting any better with LW than without, then yes, LW did possibly improve the defense.
Either way, LW is a DT in a 4-3 and a DE in 3-4 looks. He's not an Edge who will rush the passer for sacks. He's a space and body eater who frees up the speed players behind him, and pushes the pocket back into the QB.
Either way, LW is a DT in a 4-3 and a DE in 3-4 looks. He's not an Edge who will rush the passer for sacks. He's a space and body eater who frees up the speed players behind him, and pushes the pocket back into the QB.
Strahan lost weight not because he wanted to, but because he was developing back spasms. He was able to remain effective because his game was predicated on technique.
I wonder if the Giants could talk the Ravens into parting with their two 3rd round picks in exchange for Williams?
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and a powerful human being to boot. LW is much more raw.
Either way, LW is a DT in a 4-3 and a DE in 3-4 looks. He's not an Edge who will rush the passer for sacks. He's a space and body eater who frees up the speed players behind him, and pushes the pocket back into the QB.
Strahan lost weight not because he wanted to, but because he was developing back spasms. He was able to remain effective because his game was predicated on technique.
He also figured out to eat better and train smarter.