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Giants Sign Dion Lewis

bumpsinthenight : 3/23/2020 4:49 pm
The #Giants have signed Dion Lewis per
@JosinaAnderson
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@CodyJBenjamin
had this last month as likely to happen per source.
I'm iffy on this one. Would've preferred they draft a RB on Day 3 or UDFA in addition to allowing Gallman to get healthy and serve as the No. 2.
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Maybe he can teach Barkley how to try to pass block  
arniefez : 3/23/2020 7:56 pm : link
i have to say threads like these are a nice break from real life.

Why all the vitriol? Have you watched the NY Giants for the past few years? Have you noticed the 6-18 home record the past 3 years?
RE: They need a thumper that can soften the defense ...  
NikkiMac : 3/23/2020 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14847426 Manny in CA said:
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Dillon. With all the picks they have they can parlay those to move up to get him.


I disagree that’s fashionable to say but the reality is Barkley is and excellent 3rd and 4th down back he made numerous opportunities last season as he got well 2 pass catching backs is good for Daniel Jones imo
Don't hate it  
mattlawson : 3/23/2020 8:06 pm : link
he's a dual threat
It worked well with Jacobs & Bradshaw ...  
Manny in CA : 3/23/2020 8:39 pm : link

Ahmad was famous for his "vicious" running style; Jacobs at 270 took a toll on the defense. It was amazing to have both, complimenting each other.
...  
christian : 3/23/2020 8:43 pm : link
What puts Barkley's value high is his homerun ability. Sure he's also good situationally, but I'd much rather Barkley be fresh and healthy after Thanksgiving.
Yeah.  
David B. : 3/23/2020 8:43 pm : link
Giants definitely needed another back  
fanofthejets : 3/23/2020 9:48 pm : link
It may work out, maybe he's got something in reserve. Because it's not like he's had a ton of touches at the NFL level.

Lewis will be turning 30 early this upcoming season and the career trajectory for him and backs in general...it's rare to see any sort of upticks with where he is now. Been under 4.0 yards per carry the past two years.
RE: Giants definitely needed another back  
Jay on the Island : 3/23/2020 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14847665 fanofthejets said:
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It may work out, maybe he's got something in reserve. Because it's not like he's had a ton of touches at the NFL level.

Lewis will be turning 30 early this upcoming season and the career trajectory for him and backs in general...it's rare to see any sort of upticks with where he is now. Been under 4.0 yards per carry the past two years.

The Giants have a good backup RB in Gallman. He’s also a good receiver out of the backfield and good in pass pro. Lewis will be competing with him and probably a rookie for a roster spot.

The Giants are in far better shape than the Jets at RB. That’s not saying much as the Jets RB depth chart is among the worst in football. Bell averaged a pathetic 3.2 yards per carry.


As with every move you loved the Bell signing last year and that turned out to be another poor allocation of resources. Why the Jets thought it was a good idea to give a RB with as many touches as Bell has had combined with sitting out gear is beyond me. The last year Bell did play his yards per carry was nearly a full yard less than the previous two seasons. Rarely do RB’s improve late in their careers. RB should be a major concern for the Jets.
Solid move  
MtDizzle : 3/23/2020 11:35 pm : link
Barkley finally has a legit backup now.
Lewis is exactly the kind of back we've ignored in FA (like Sproles)  
Eric on Li : 3/23/2020 11:48 pm : link
then get burned by in the regular season and say "why don't we have a guy like that" while we are trotting in a converted FB or practice squadder. If you go back and watch him in 2018-19 he makes people miss and catches the ball well (link below).

Last year he got half as many targets (32) in the passing game and 1/3 the rush attempts of the year prior (54 rush attempts). Not sure how that's conclusive of anything other than minimal usage. His YPC actually improved from the year prior and his receiving efficiency was just about the same albeit in a small sample size. He's approaching 30 but he doesn't have a lot of usage in his career (500 carries, 172 recepts).

As a receiver especially he has skills that will likely help here. Sort of like the Vereen signing, except this is likely a cheap 1 or 2 year deal and hopefully Lewis will have better health luck (looks like he hasn't missed a game in 3 years).
Dion Lewis 2018-19 Season Highlights - ( New Window )
This is a nice move  
Breeze_94 : 3/24/2020 12:58 am : link
Sure, he'll be 30 years old but this isn't a guy with a ton of mileage like Jonathan Stewart was.

Lewis has played a very limited role backing up Henry- when he did play, you could see he still has plenty of quickness/shiftiness. He'll probably see at most 10-12 snaps a game- he's a great pass protector for his size and a very good receiving threat. HUGE upgrade from Hilliman.
Would this thread even exist  
M.S. : 3/24/2020 5:40 am : link


If Joe Judge had NOT been hired by the Giants?

Count me in as a Giants fan who is skeptical when new head coaches bring in their former players.

Hopefully this signing is nothing worse than a big yawn.
I think we draft a bruising RB this year  
SteelGiant : 3/24/2020 8:04 am : link
Let them compete - I could see the backfield being a SB- main back, Lewis-if he proves he has something left, and a bruising rookie RB. And No Penny is not the answer - I dont even like the fact we signed him and I hope someone beats him off the roster.
The Eagles have this player every year and kills us!  
GiantBlue : 3/24/2020 8:14 am : link
Sproles, Boston Scott, Barner, etc etc...the list goes on.

I have said repeatedly we need a small scatback that can get into space and drive a D crazy and get important first downs when everyone else is covered.

It is something we have lacked since we tried to make Perkins that guy.

We need change of pace at RB. Good signing!
We'll see  
Carson53 : 3/24/2020 8:28 am : link
what he has left, only a one year deal.
He didn't do much last year. Could be an upgrade over Gallman, not excited about him at all.
RE: RE: RE: he's totally washed  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2020 9:22 am : link
In comment 14847354 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 14847349 Saquads26 said:


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In comment 14847306 GiantsFan84 said:


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this is another bad move



Ah it was you that bought out all the Kleenex!



And you'll be the one crying during the season for the 8th season in a row.

With a different handle each season.
I like Lewis's game  
SomeFan : 3/24/2020 9:30 am : link
If he has something left in the tank, he is a good guy to have on the team.
If you have faith in Joe Judge  
JCin332 : 3/24/2020 9:35 am : link
have faith in this signing because this is all him...
RE: would be shocked  
MattyKid : 3/24/2020 9:41 am : link
In comment 14847435 bc4life said:
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if they don't draft a rb.

he can help with blitz pickup, good rb for screens, they'll be looking to him as their 3rd rb.

"use players to come in and do things that they do best"....that seems a familiar phrase, where did I hear that before?


+1. They need him for blitz pick up
RE: Lewis is exactly the kind of back we've ignored in FA (like Sproles)  
Carson53 : 3/24/2020 9:48 am : link
In comment 14847738 Eric on Li said:
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then get burned by in the regular season and say "why don't we have a guy like that" while we are trotting in a converted FB or practice squadder. If you go back and watch him in 2018-19 he makes people miss and catches the ball well (link below).

Last year he got half as many targets (32) in the passing game and 1/3 the rush attempts of the year prior (54 rush attempts). Not sure how that's conclusive of anything other than minimal usage. His YPC actually improved from the year prior and his receiving efficiency was just about the same albeit in a small sample size. He's approaching 30 but he doesn't have a lot of usage in his career (500 carries, 172 recepts).

As a receiver especially he has skills that will likely help here. Sort of like the Vereen signing, except this is likely a cheap 1 or 2 year deal and hopefully Lewis will have better health luck (looks like he hasn't missed a game in 3 years). Dion Lewis 2018-19 Season Highlights - ( New Window )
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Shane Vereen was a bust here though.
He either sucked or was hurt.
He was quickly out of football after leaving the Giants.
I believe he signed with another team, and was cut
before the season even started.(Saints?)
RE: Giants definitely needed another back  
PatersonPlank : 3/24/2020 9:54 am : link
In comment 14847665 fanofthejets said:
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It may work out, maybe he's got something in reserve. Because it's not like he's had a ton of touches at the NFL level.

Lewis will be turning 30 early this upcoming season and the career trajectory for him and backs in general...it's rare to see any sort of upticks with where he is now. Been under 4.0 yards per carry the past two years.


I can't see us drafting another RB. That would mean keeping 4 on the roster, which I don't see happening. I also don't see us using a draft pick on someone we would put on the PS anyway. Sure draft picks end up there, but the hope when they are drafted is the can contribute.
Carson - when he was healthy he wasn't a bust  
Eric on Li : 3/24/2020 10:12 am : link
his first year he averaged over 4 ypc, and had almost 500 yards receiving on 59 receptions - which was 2nd on the team behind OBJ and ahead of Randle. That was Coughlin's final season where the offense was a top 10 unit, especially the passing offense, the defense just stunk. Eli had 35 TD's that year which I believe was the most in his career.

His 2nd year was 2016 when he only played 5 games due to the triceps injury and he had all the fumbling issues when he tried to play through it.

His last year here ('17) he wasn't very good but nothing was good that year. OBJ got hurt, Orleans Darkwa led the team in carries, McAdoo got fired, etc.

It's unlikely Lewis has anything more than a 2 year deal, and if they can get 1 year out of him like Vereen's first year it's a perfectly fine signing.
I like this signing.....  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/24/2020 10:59 am : link
Dion Lewis at his current age still has some gas in the tank, and he could be another running threat along with Barkley (who I think is the best RB in the game today).
I'm pretty sure we don't draft a bruising running back this year  
Gruber : 3/24/2020 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14847819 SteelGiant said:
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Let them compete - I could see the backfield being a SB- main back, Lewis-if he proves he has something left, and a bruising rookie RB. And No Penny is not the answer - I dont even like the fact we signed him and I hope someone beats him off the roster.


Use a late draft pick on a wide receiver, not a back up running back. Makes sense given the unusual depth of wide recievers in this year's draft. We only have so many draft picks.
I liked gallman, but  
Dave : 3/24/2020 12:40 pm : link
fumbles and injuries (remember, BP used to say, sometimes availability is more important that ability)
RE: Lewis is exactly the kind of back we've ignored in FA (like Sproles)  
Jay on the Island : 3/24/2020 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14847738 Eric on Li said:
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then get burned by in the regular season and say "why don't we have a guy like that" while we are trotting in a converted FB or practice squadder. If you go back and watch him in 2018-19 he makes people miss and catches the ball well (link below).

Last year he got half as many targets (32) in the passing game and 1/3 the rush attempts of the year prior (54 rush attempts). Not sure how that's conclusive of anything other than minimal usage. His YPC actually improved from the year prior and his receiving efficiency was just about the same albeit in a small sample size. He's approaching 30 but he doesn't have a lot of usage in his career (500 carries, 172 recepts).

As a receiver especially he has skills that will likely help here. Sort of like the Vereen signing, except this is likely a cheap 1 or 2 year deal and hopefully Lewis will have better health luck (looks like he hasn't missed a game in 3 years). Dion Lewis 2018-19 Season Highlights - ( New Window )

IIRC the Giants did try to sign Sproles in FA a few years ago but he chose to sign with the Eagles. I've been a big fan of Sproles and I had hoped the Giants would bring in a similar type of RB as a complimentary back. As for Dion Lewis I wanted him back in the draft and I remember a poster here was a huge fan of his. Dion Lewis' FB in college was former Giant Henry Hynoski.

Lewis isn't a special back but he is certainly an upgrade over Hilliman. Why Hilliman is still on the roster is beyond me.
RE: The Eagles have this player every year and kills us!  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/24/2020 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14847826 GiantBlue said:
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Sproles, Boston Scott, Barner, etc etc...the list goes on.

I have said repeatedly we need a small scatback that can get into space and drive a D crazy and get important first downs when everyone else is covered.

It is something we have lacked since we tried to make Perkins that guy.

We need change of pace at RB. Good signing!

Kind of ironic because Meggett invented the modern 3rd down receiving scatback - or at least I can't recall off the top of my head someone like Meggett at that time. And you would think according to planet theory there should be a good number of Meggett type players around.
it sounds like a 1 year deal but I havent seen any $ yet  
Eric on Li : 3/24/2020 2:21 pm : link
I'd imagine around $2-3m?
this is like buying a car with bald tires  
Jersey55 : 3/25/2020 4:39 pm : link
there nothing left...
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