2020 NFL free agency's best & worst contracts

Fackrell is the classic case of taking a chance in a relatively young player who was productive. 1 year deals you can’t exactly call an overpay when w we have endless cap space. That has to factor into it. You can “over pay” when you have your qb and star back on rookie deals and your highest paid defensive player, prior to Bradberry, was dexter Lawrence.

but I don't think he's a contract guy. I think he made his way as a Fantasy Football commentor. The guy's gotta write something I guess, but I'd let this opinion roll off my shoulders.

In comment 14847779 Tuckrule said:

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Fackrell is the classic case of taking a chance in a relatively young player who was productive. 1 year deals you can’t exactly call an overpay when w we have endless cap space. That has to factor into it. You can “over pay” when you have your qb and star back on rookie deals and your highest paid defensive player, prior to Bradberry, was dexter Lawrence.

Very true. The writer makes clear that it is the Martinez contract that's at fault, and not really Fackrell's. As an aside, I really liked the Fackrell signing.

to surprise the naysayers.

a rarely mentioned plus about Martinez is his intelligence in calling defensive alignments.

In comment 14847786 Ira said:

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a rarely mentioned plus about Martinez is his intelligence in calling defensive alignments.

Graham wanted him here obviously. If you think Graham will be an improvement, trust in his knowledge of what Martinez can do. If you don’t then opt to dislike the Martinez signing

The defensive coaches. I also feel Blake is too slow for today's NFL....but I do expect they have a plan for him.

The best part is that Blake will know the defense and with the shortened time p,Ayers will have....he should help make sure everyone is on same page, which was a major problem last year.

I just compared Littleton and Martinez combine results. From what I see our guy had better numbers in most if not all categories. For many here who like to splits hairs and use these in arguments to defend there positions I’m surprised no one has brought this up. Perhaps I’m looking at the wrong web page and if so I’ll stand to be corrected.

I look at their career and season stat’s they’re similar. One could even say Martinez’s are better. Again I haven’t seen either play so what’s the story. Is Martinez that bad in coverage,did they play in different systems, have his naysayers seen him in all 22 film? Just not getting the negativity in this signing. Enlighten me

But for the most part in this league, sitting out the bulk/upper tier levels of FA usually puts you among the "winners".

The problem isn't that the more fluid, impactful free agent ILBs went elsewhere.

And the problem isn't that DG signed Martinez at about the same price as those better ILBs.

The problem is all three happened.

In comment 14847846 LBH15 said:

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The problem isn't that the more fluid, impactful free agent ILBs went elsewhere. And the problem isn't that DG signed Martinez at about the same price as those better ILBs. The problem is all three happened.

Schobert wanted a longer term contract than the Giants were comfortable with. Although the Giants didn’t have negotiations with Littleton specifically, there are only a small group of agents representing NFL players. In discussing generally about who is available, perhaps Littleton’s agent advised the Giants that he was not looking at any teams outside of the Western United States. No agent is going to contradict the Giants public spin on an issue like this because they may need the Giants for other clients.

In comment 14847785 Big Blue '56 said:

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to surprise the naysayers.

I can see it .... the more I research him the better I feel not saying he is a slam dunk but the potential is there for sure. Just needs a legit shot from the looks of it overall.

The Only given is that all these guys are overpaid and not worth this kind of money ... especially these days with thousands now out of work indefinitely and long term economic uncertainty.

posters getting upset at the media each time they trash another of Gettleman's or Reese's moves during the past few years.

It seems like the national media has been a lot more on point than our front offices have been.

the team better and can be easily cut after one year if he forgets how to tackle next season. How much better is debatable but the bar is very low.

at this point, Clowney might look for a 1 year prove it deal. Clearly we'd be able to afford it with some restructuring etc. Why not?

In comment 14847894 ryanmkeane said:

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at this point, Clowney might look for a 1 year prove it deal. Clearly we'd be able to afford it with some restructuring etc. Why not?

Not understanding why 1 year would help with anything? 3 years? Fine. 1 year and most likely have him bolt, I would not be happy with as a fan.

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The Only given is that all these guys are overpaid and not worth this kind of money ... especially these days with thousands now out of work indefinitely and long term economic uncertainty.

That couldn't be less relevant. These guys are under a CBA with money that is preallocated to player salaries and precedents that will be in place after this is over.

I'm moreso talking about our cap situation. More and more players are getting 1 year deals. If we signed Clowney for 1 year and he was basically the same player as he's been, I think we would be happy with that signing.

instead of going out and finding a badass MLB to run the NY Giants D we throw good $$$ at Blake fucking Martinez?

This is who we just HAVE TO HAVE running the show?

It’s a joke.

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instead of going out and finding a badass MLB to run the NY Giants D we throw good $$$ at Blake fucking Martinez? This is who we just HAVE TO HAVE running the show? It’s a joke.

Perhaps Blake F Martinez was the only LB who was interested in joining the team. Its FREE AGENCY! Free, Free, Free......how many times does this need to be said? Its NOT A DRAFT, you cant just go out and pick guys, there has to be MUTUAL interest. Maybe some guys arent interested in playing in the NY/NJ area, maybe cities like Vegas, Miami, with no state taxes are appealing, maybe they go to teams with coaches they like...a million reasons. So you get the best guys you can who are WILLING to sign with you. And if Martinez is the best we can do, then so be it.

For those reasons and others, you should never count on building a team via FA, you build though the draft, where guys dont have the option of turning you down (well...mostly...see Manning, E and Elway, J). And that is why this thing is gonna take a while to get done. So many draft screwups in the past have put the Giants in the position where they are now, its gonna take time to crawl out of that hole.

Both his 40 and 3 cone times were faster.

In comment 14847934 mittenedman said:

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instead of going out and finding a badass MLB to run the NY Giants D we throw good $$$ at Blake fucking Martinez? This is who we just HAVE TO HAVE running the show? It’s a joke.

Speaking of jokes, great post.

Who is this badass MLB that you wanted them to sign? And what is it about Blake Martinez that you're unhappy with? I'm especially curious about your concerns with him QBing the defense, so if you could address that in particular, I'd be grateful.

You might have to actually put some thought into it, so take your time. Otherwise, maybe stick to calling WFAN instead with the rest of the mouthbreathers.

and just entering the prime of his career. Meaning we will have him for his best 3 prime years. What did he do last year? He led the whole f#cking NFL in solo tackles. Yeah he sucks... you guys are so good at evaluating players. So amazing at knowing how good a player is. I think a few people starting ripping he couldn't cover and the rest who barely have seen him play are like yay something to complain about.

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and just entering the prime of his career. Meaning we will have him for his best 3 prime years. What did he do last year? He led the whole f#cking NFL in solo tackles. Yeah he sucks... you guys are so good at evaluating players. So amazing at knowing how good a player is. I think a few people starting ripping he couldn't cover and the rest who barely have seen him play are like yay something to complain about.

This.


The biggest problem around here isnt the lack of knowledge so much as the fact that their lack of knowledge doesnt seem to stop them from running their ignorant yaps.

you can argue the Martinez signing all day. You could argue we should have gone after Schobert or Littleton. I think the current coaching regime is going to value certain things over others. It doesn't matter if you're the best athlete in the world if you can't read a defense, can't call plays, can't diagnose the LOS. This kid can do all that.

The fact remains it's basically a 2 year deal (hopefully 3 if he plays really well for us) for a 26 year old proven MLB who is always around the ball. Is he good in coverage? No, not really. But he had 96, 91, and 97 *solo* tackles i consecutive years before really hitting his prime which is now. He's also had 2 years of 10 TFL seasons, ironically enough, one of those seasons was when Graham was coaching him.

I think for the years and the money, we will be happy with this signing. He's not all of a sudden going to start absolutely sucking as a linebacker.

Sure, Blake Martinez is the best we can do. There were no opportunities to get anyone better over the last few years at the crucial MIKE position.

I used to defend the Giants but I'm not doing it anymore. The D has been historically bad since about 2015 forward, with a great year in 2016 mixed in.

I don't hate Martinez but he should not be the hand-picked, well-paid starting MLB for the NY Giants. This was once a proud defensive franchise.

In comment 14848995 mittenedman said:

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Sure, Blake Martinez is the best we can do. There were no opportunities to get anyone better over the last few years at the crucial MIKE position. I used to defend the Giants but I'm not doing it anymore. The D has been historically bad since about 2015 forward, with a great year in 2016 mixed in. I don't hate Martinez but he should not be the hand-picked, well-paid starting MLB for the NY Giants. This was once a proud defensive franchise.

If you think I qualify as a pom pom waver, your reading comprehension and overall intelligence is worse than I thought.

The reality is, you put a horseshit take out there regarding Martinez. And even as you try to walk it back, you're still stuck in the same horseshit take. Who SHOULD be the hand-picked, well-paid starting MLB for the Giants?

I doubt we'll get an answer.

I'm not the GM. I don't have that answer. If I am hired as such, I'll let you know.

What I do know is - the NY Giants still don't have a quality MLB, or a quality defense. Is it OK to expect results from the front office?

My take is not horseshit. Martinez is not an impact LB.

That's why I called you a pom pom waver.

In comment 14849388 mittenedman said:

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My take is not horseshit. Martinez is not an impact LB. That's why I called you a pom pom waver.

And I am one of the most vocal DG critics on this board. That's why I questioned your reading comprehension.

Both available. There are SO many top MLBers lying around. unemployed now.

He was getting beat and/or committing an arguably dirty hit.

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I don't have that answer.

We see that.