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NFT: WiFi Mesh network recommendations?

rnargi : 3/24/2020 10:21 am
I have FIOS and the WiFi is spotty throughout the house. Instead of an extender, I was hoping to use one of these new fangled "mesh networks" the kids are all raving about. Does anyone have any recommendations? I've read up on PC Mag and also Amazon reviews but frankly the reviews are all over the place and no two seem to match up.

Thanks in advance!
Google WiFi  
giants#1 : 3/24/2020 10:23 am : link
10 min setup and great coverage/speed. Can also add more nodes if needed.
The Google one is pretty good  
Eli Wilson : 3/24/2020 10:24 am : link
I know they are a hair expensive, but probably worth it in the long run vs some of the other solutions.
RE: Google WiFi  
Heisenberg : 3/24/2020 10:25 am : link
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10 min setup and great coverage/speed. Can also add more nodes if needed.


+1. I was working from home a lot before this BS and this was a fantastic addition. My Wifi is rock solid all over. There are other mesh networks people like and are probably also good but this one is great for me.
Orbi  
HMunster : 3/24/2020 10:26 am : link
I have it set up with the main router on the main floor and satellites upstairs and in the basement. Works great.
2nd the Orbi recommendation  
Russ in Queens, NYC : 3/24/2020 11:05 am : link
Have set it up at both my mother's and brother's places and it really does a great job. Set up is super easy, too.
anyone have any luck  
UConn4523 : 3/24/2020 11:07 am : link
setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?
RE: anyone have any luck  
Heisenberg : 3/24/2020 11:23 am : link
In comment 14848082 UConn4523 said:
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setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?


Yes, not xbox but PS4. I have a 3 pack. I have one that is hardwired to a PS4 and one that is hardwired to my work PC. The other is wired to my LR Smart TV. I get consistently fast connections on all.
cool  
UConn4523 : 3/24/2020 11:35 am : link
going to do that eventually for the bedrooms
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santacruzom : 3/24/2020 12:16 pm : link
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setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?



Yes, not xbox but PS4. I have a 3 pack. I have one that is hardwired to a PS4 and one that is hardwired to my work PC. The other is wired to my LR Smart TV. I get consistently fast connections on all.


Are you sure you did that with one of the Nest "points," and not the main router? I'd have to look, but I don't recall my point actually having an ethernet port in it.
rnargi  
Tim in Capital City : 3/24/2020 12:35 pm : link
I got Google Wifi for that very reason...spotty wifi in the attic where my office is and at other points throughout the house. I replaced an extender, and my coverage through out the house is so much better than it was previously.

One thing worth noting (I have FIOS as well) is that because of required Google Wifi setup, you will lose some of your FIOS TV DVR functionality. I can no longer watch (or set) my DVR remotely.
I have Fios and eero  
moze1021 : 3/24/2020 1:20 pm : link
Have been very happy with it.
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giants#1 : 3/24/2020 1:23 pm : link
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setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?



Yes, not xbox but PS4. I have a 3 pack. I have one that is hardwired to a PS4 and one that is hardwired to my work PC. The other is wired to my LR Smart TV. I get consistently fast connections on all.



Are you sure you did that with one of the Nest "points," and not the main router? I'd have to look, but I don't recall my point actually having an ethernet port in it.


Pretty sure all the Google WiFi points have 2 Ethernet ports. Assuming you have multiple nodes, the primary node will only have a single usable port since the other one needs to connect to your modem, but any additional nodes you add should be able to hard wire to two devices.
Thanks guys, I went with the Netgear.  
rnargi : 3/24/2020 1:32 pm : link
I appreciate the inputs. I'm going to leave this up for others, and in case someone has a better option. I realize I'm going to have to turn off my FIOS WiFi, but I don't think that will affect the TV set top box. The modem will still be active.
rnargi  
LG in NYC : 3/24/2020 1:38 pm : link
I have Fios and Lynksys mesh system. Pretty happy with it.
I use Eero  
Josh in the City : 3/24/2020 1:48 pm : link
and it's fantastic.
google wifi here  
haper : 3/24/2020 4:06 pm : link
Its been working great for over a year, easy setup, never a problem. Recommended it to a buddy a few months ago and he got the newer Google Nest wifi and is very happy. He then recommended it to a buddy of his with the same results.
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Heisenberg : 3/24/2020 4:09 pm : link
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setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?



Yes, not xbox but PS4. I have a 3 pack. I have one that is hardwired to a PS4 and one that is hardwired to my work PC. The other is wired to my LR Smart TV. I get consistently fast connections on all.



Are you sure you did that with one of the Nest "points," and not the main router? I'd have to look, but I don't recall my point actually having an ethernet port in it.


I don't have a "Nest" router. Mine is a few years old. A Google Wifi 3 pack. Perhaps they have changed? All three pucks are identical in my three pack and the only difference is which one I set up first and connect to my modem. They all have an ethernet port in back.
Mesh is OK but not a great solution.  
Shockwave : 3/24/2020 4:30 pm : link
Mesh systems extend your coverage but lower your throughput/bandwith.

So lets say you have node 01 which is the one hardwired into your router, switch, modem etc.. Since you are close to this lets say your connection strength is 100%, your speed will be 100% of the max your wireless hardware is capable of (in theory).

Now lets say you have a mesh system and node 2 is at the other side of the house. You will still report 100% connection strength but your max speed is only going to be 50%. This affect is compounded the more nodes you have. Node 3 could show 100% signal strength but your max speed could be 10% of your internet capability.

Mesh systems have improved over the years but this problem still exist for the most part. Google WiFi is good but is dated now as I don't believe they have released a new version since the original 3 or 4 years ago. I have also found that Google WiFi did not play well with certain services.

UniFI has a new mesh system out that is really good. For smaller installations in commercial and high end residential markets I use UniFi for everything. Its a very good ecosystem and very user friendly. On the large commercial projects I let the company IT departments handle it as I am not allowed to use my own hardware.

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santacruzom : 3/25/2020 3:13 am : link
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I don't have a "Nest" router. Mine is a few years old. A Google Wifi 3 pack. Perhaps they have changed? All three pucks are identical in my three pack and the only difference is which one I set up first and connect to my modem. They all have an ethernet port in back.


Ah ha, what I have is different from yours. Mine is the Google Nest Wifi, and it has a primary router and then additional points that have no physical connectivity abilities.

The OP should not get what I got if that matters to him, but I love it. I just use one point for now and am getting terrific coverage.
Here's what I've got  
santacruzom : 3/25/2020 3:15 am : link
And I forgot to mention that the points double as Google smart speakers. Pretty cool, we use it all the time.
Google Nest review - ( New Window )
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Heisenberg : 3/25/2020 8:08 am : link
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I don't have a "Nest" router. Mine is a few years old. A Google Wifi 3 pack. Perhaps they have changed? All three pucks are identical in my three pack and the only difference is which one I set up first and connect to my modem. They all have an ethernet port in back.



Ah ha, what I have is different from yours. Mine is the Google Nest Wifi, and it has a primary router and then additional points that have no physical connectivity abilities.

The OP should not get what I got if that matters to him, but I love it. I just use one point for now and am getting terrific coverage.


Gotcha. That makes sense. That is different. Link below of what I have. My house is a big ranch and it works well there. When we rented a big house in OBX for 20+ folks I brought the google wifi down and it worked on a house that was 4 stories. We had great wifi all throughout. The great thing with mesh networking is that you can adapt it to whatever the topography of the house.
Link - ( New Window )
Not being able to connect into one of the dots  
UConn4523 : 3/25/2020 8:21 am : link
is a deal breaker for me. Really want to be able to move my Xbox around to wherever a dot it and hardwire it to the dot.
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bigbluehoya : 3/25/2020 8:30 am : link
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setting up Google Wifi and then using one of the hotspots to hardwire an Xbox into?



Yes, not xbox but PS4. I have a 3 pack. I have one that is hardwired to a PS4 and one that is hardwired to my work PC. The other is wired to my LR Smart TV. I get consistently fast connections on all.



Are you sure you did that with one of the Nest "points," and not the main router? I'd have to look, but I don't recall my point actually having an ethernet port in it.



I don't have a "Nest" router. Mine is a few years old. A Google Wifi 3 pack. Perhaps they have changed? All three pucks are identical in my three pack and the only difference is which one I set up first and connect to my modem. They all have an ethernet port in back.


Heisenberg - you are correct. I am typing this from a desktop that is connected to the internet via hardwire connection to one of the Google Wifi points (NOT the main hub one that is connected to the router).

I've had nothing but positive experiences with Google Wifi. I started with the 3-pack and added a fourth dot about a year later when I turned part of my walk-in closet into a desk/work area.

The hardware is extremely easy to set up, and the app is a piece of cake to use.
RE: Not being able to connect into one of the dots  
Heisenberg : 3/25/2020 8:33 am : link
In comment 14849017 UConn4523 said:
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is a deal breaker for me. Really want to be able to move my Xbox around to wherever a dot it and hardwire it to the dot.


Just get the one I linked and not the Google Nest Wifi.
bigbluehoya, it's been great  
Heisenberg : 3/25/2020 8:34 am : link
Easily the lowest maintenance and most reliable wifi router I've ever owned.
I have google mesh  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/25/2020 8:47 am : link
works well and is easy to setup. They've already got my info anyway so who cares at this point.
RE: RE: Not being able to connect into one of the dots  
UConn4523 : 3/25/2020 9:10 am : link
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is a deal breaker for me. Really want to be able to move my Xbox around to wherever a dot it and hardwire it to the dot.



Just get the one I linked and not the Google Nest Wifi.


Thanks, likely will get that. And this just hooks into my current router (Altice One box, right?
the Google WiFi routers  
giants#1 : 3/25/2020 9:16 am : link
connect to your existing modem, not another router.

Google WiFi has some other nice features too (I'm sure the other mesh's have comparable features):
- Guess network - simple to setup with/without a pwd so you don't need to give out your main WiFi network info
- I haven't used it myself, but I believe you can prioritize devices on your network. So if you work from home and your kids are streaming HD video/games, you can throttle them if needed
- You can turn off WiFi for any device on your network. Great if you have kids and you want to limit their online time...

Probably others too
sorry  
UConn4523 : 3/25/2020 9:19 am : link
meant Altice modem
RE: Google WiFi  
jlukes : 3/25/2020 9:36 am : link
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10 min setup and great coverage/speed. Can also add more nodes if needed.


Another vote for this. Believe it is branded Nest Wifi now
RE: sorry  
Heisenberg : 3/25/2020 9:39 am : link
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meant Altice modem


yep, ethernet connection out of modem goes into router. Set up the first access point with your phone and then go add others wherever you need them. I have my main puck connected to my modem near my main tv so have a wired tv connection. Then have a puck in the man cave attached to PS4 with wire and then one in office attached to my laptop dock. Wifi signal strong all over, good streaming from Fire/Apple TVs around the rest of house. Plenty of bandwidth for the teenagers devices too.
awesome  
UConn4523 : 3/25/2020 9:51 am : link
I pulled Cat6 through the whole house (all bedrooms and living room) just in case but this adds in more flexibility since you never know what wall you will use for a bed or dresser until you move in and get situated. This allows me to use the wall port if accessible, or ditch it and use the hardware through a mesh system.
RE: Not being able to connect into one of the dots  
santacruzom : 3/26/2020 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14849017 UConn4523 said:
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is a deal breaker for me. Really want to be able to move my Xbox around to wherever a dot it and hardwire it to the dot.


My wife and I recently broke out her old Xbox 360 so our stir-crazy kids could use the Kinect, and I didn't even realize that it didn't have built-in wifi. But the wifi adapters are available for under 20 bucks.
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