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My "fearless" 2020 Giants draft ....

Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 12:01 am

Background - Jason Garrett’s voice in the draft room will be a very persuasive voice because he he brings with him an outstanding record of offensive success. In Dan Jones, he has the QB that he’s never had, to fully realize the full potential of his type of football - a classic stand-and-deliver guy. He has Saquon, the guy who forces the defense to respect the L..O.S; but this REAL goal is to strike deep and often.

To make it all happen, he needs an OT that can protect Jones’ blind sideband and a center who can keep the pocket clean. He has Slayton to go deep, he needs a speed guy on the other side that scares defenses.

That’s how the NFL is built today - It favors those that can put up a LOT of points, fast. That’s why KC is the Super Bowl Champion.

First Round

#1. Bengals Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
#2 Skins Chase Young Edge Ohio State
#3. Lions - (Trade down with Miami)
#3. Miami. Tua Tagovalailoa, QB Alabama
#4 Giants. (Trade down with Chargers, we get their #12 & #37)
#4 Chargers. Justin Hebert, QB, Oregon
#5. Lions. Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State
#12. Giants. Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZpPIHST_zQ

#12. Raiders. (Trade down with Giants, they get our #36, #110 + [Evan Engram,
Former #1 pick])
#12 Giants. Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=818WpPvrczM

Second Round

#37. Giants. Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc_J_KHsHe8& t=42s

Third Round

#99 Giants. AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELSCanVnMek

Fifth Round

Derrek Tuszka, Edge, North Dakota State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOOQkD3KMA

Sixth Round

Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECc1CvQycC8

Seventh Round

#218. Giants, Michael Onwenu, Guard, Michigan

# 238. Giants, Myles Dorn, S, North Carolina

#247 Giants, Steven Montez, QB, Colorado

# 255. Giants, Shaq Quaterman, LB, Miami
pretty ballsy  
Platos : 3/26/2020 12:20 am : link
giving the raiders all those assets to trade down lol
Trade down with the chargers  
Des51 : 3/26/2020 12:25 am : link
You mean we get their #6 and #37 not #12
That's why I call my draft "fearless" ...  
Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 12:36 am : link

In free agency the Giants have been careful and cautious, that's fine, I get it (you built a steady foundation). In the draft, when you have fresh young talent, that's where you strike with gusto.

Wirfs & Ruiz are two young studs that will very quickly contribute; Henry Ruggs is a game breaker; Dillon is a tackle breaking brute with speed - to get all that, "you don't get something for nothin'"



Thanks for your correction des51 ..  
Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 12:37 am : link
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Agree With Position picks  
Breaker : 3/26/2020 6:46 am : link
In comment 14849959 Manny in CA said:
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In free agency the Giants have been careful and cautious, that's fine, I get it (you built a steady foundation). In the draft, when you have fresh young talent, that's where you strike with gusto.

Wirfs & Ruiz are two young studs that will very quickly contribute; Henry Ruggs is a game breaker; Dillon is a tackle breaking brute with speed - to get all that, "you
don't get something for nothin'"



However way they do it Tackle, Center, and Receiver seems logical with three of first four picks. Deep draft for receivers probably pushes that position down a bit and maybe pushes a free safety up. The wild card is do they squeeze an edge rusher into that 2nd round slot.


Manny in CA  
M.S. : 3/26/2020 6:58 am : link



Interesting Draft!

I don't think it could ever happen, but great if it does.

One quibble. I look askance at this statement of yours:

"In Dan Jones, he has the QB that he’s never had, to fully realize the full potential of his type of football - a classic stand-and-deliver guy."

Are you kidding?

You vastly under-rate the abilities of Dak Prescott.
"Fearless"???  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/26/2020 7:31 am : link
I think there's a better word for it.

One that wonders how you can figure out player names to pull out of your ass when you get a basic thing like the pick position that you get in a trade incorrect.

There's a huge difference between a #6 and the #12 pick. Massive.

But hey, you looked up some players on the World Wide Web and fake picked them for the Giants.

Bravo.
I think FMiC  
lugnut : 3/26/2020 7:58 am : link
Put on his cranky pants this morning.

I dunno, OP, only 3 out of 10 picks for a really bad D, and none till the 5th (from N Dak St)?? I like your individual players in the upper rounds, sure, but...
Too much maneuvering for very little gain  
HMunster : 3/26/2020 8:09 am : link
After all that we only get a #12 pick but lose Evan Engram?

And I don't see us taking a WR AND a RB with our 1st and 3rd round pics. It's 4 offensive positions in a row.

3rd round pick on a running back makes no sense  
jlukes : 3/26/2020 8:11 am : link
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Not as big a fan of Whirfs  
JFIB : 3/26/2020 8:13 am : link
As I am of Wills, just better technique from what I've seen. I also thing that 3rd round pick would be better served generating a pass rush but I don't know much about the RB you're suggesting. Nice work though addressing the O-line!
Henry Riggs is picked with the 19th pick, right?  
cosmicj : 3/26/2020 8:26 am : link
Manny, you need to correct this and repost. It took me five minutes to understand what you were proposing.
So Jason Garrett  
Mike from Ohio : 3/26/2020 8:28 am : link
could never realize the full potential of his offense with Tony Romo and Dak Prescott, but now he is unleashed with Daniel Jones?

I'm not sure where to start with the inanity of that take. Are there things Daniel Jones is doing that couldn't be asked of Tony Romo?
I have to admit  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/26/2020 8:30 am : link
I got confused too -- stuck on 12 as it were
I'm not gung ho about dropping down from 4 to the teen's  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/26/2020 8:36 am : link
You're usually going from a blue chipper to a red chipper - except for the freak years you have your choice of Donald, Martin and OBJ.
So, the Raiders trade their first round pick, #12,  
barens : 3/26/2020 9:43 am : link
for our second, fourth round picks and Evan Engram? In what world would the Raiders do that?
Simmons is the key  
Gruber : 3/26/2020 10:01 am : link
If we trade down with the Chargers, then we pick at six, I don't see Gettleman trading down a second time.
But I also think that whether any trade down happens will be determined by their assessment of Isiah Simmons. If they think Simmons is the real deal, meaning they don't think his lack of brute strength is an issue, then I believe they go with him at #4. And we don't know what conclusion the Giants front office has reached about Simmons. They may even be split amongst themselves about him, and they may not be the only organisation that's divided about him.
Draft  
Archer : 3/26/2020 10:08 am : link
My comments;
I think that there is too much emphasis on the offense

I think that if the Giants can trade down and get Wirfs, I would take the best defensive player with the next pick.

The Giants need to come out of this draft with at least one player with potential be be a difference maker on defense
I don't underestimate Romo or Dak at all ...  
Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 4:10 pm : link

They are terrific all-round athletes, but neither is Patrick Mahomes. They take the chances that is at times is beyond wisdom. Jones is more of an pocket QB, Eli Manning type (except he's more accurate).

I believe that this is a very opportune time to act boldly (picking near the top of the draft board). With the acquisition of the free agents so far and a good to average draft we MAY approach 6-7 wins. What concerns me is that we may be inclined to "settle" and underperform for a long time.

I think that we can replicate (if we play our cards right), the quick resurgence of teams like the 49ers, this past year.

Jesus..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/26/2020 5:24 pm : link
you should have your eyeballs checked.

If you think Romo was more of a mobile QB than Jones or that Jones is a pocket QB, you missed a great many plays last year that "pocket QB's" don't make.

Jones made more plays with his feet than any QB the Giants have had since Fran Tarkenton.
A trade down serves us best IF our guy isn't valued at #4 and can  
SGMen : 3/26/2020 5:53 pm : link
be had a bit later. Chargers #6 and 2nd round pick plus possibly an OL? Perhaps that trade would be solid for us.
I don't follow this  
LBH15 : 3/26/2020 7:10 pm : link
what's with all the stuff at #12 pick?
Sorry for the confusion ...  
Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 8:08 pm : link

The trade with the Chargers, picking #6, would bring us Wirfs.

The trade with the Raiders, picking #12 would bring us Henry Ruggs

The whole point of this thread is acknowledging the value present at the top of the board this year (especially top 5). But, just as importantly is the depth at several positions.

This gives us the opportunity to offer some very high quality options to potential trade partners, and at the same time receiving multiple quality.

Just go with the first trade  
LBH15 : 3/26/2020 9:03 pm : link
and skip the second one.

And even if not, no more first round WRs for the Giants...at least not for awhile.
At 4.27, Riggs has the 3rd fastest forty in Combine history ...  
Manny in CA : 3/26/2020 11:56 pm : link

And he's not just a speed demon, he has good hands and is a FOOTBALL player. If we have any chance to grab him, it would be crazy not to try.
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