I think it was when he poured a bit of water on the prevailing, "Look, the 9ers just made it to the Super Bowl by running the ball and stopping the run -- David Gettleman has been vindicated!" sentiments from a few weeks back.
if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of people who resent him for constantly being right just lit into him.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
Sometimes he was right, but his stance on any given issue was always that the Giants were wrong, the Giants were idiots, and those that disagreed with him were idiots.
Taking a predictable stance on everything doesnt show the great intellect that some of you often attribute to him. He wasn't weighing evidence to come to conclusions, he was often twisting it to suit his preconceived notions, the same thing he accused the rest of us of doing.
he’s never done anything to get banned. Never swore at another poster. If he’s been run off because he has a contrarian opinion, than there is a big problem with the forum. Difference of opinions makes things interesting. I hope he returns, he’s been here a long time,
"Winning in the NFL is not about running the ball and stopping the run. Once you've controlled for injuries, it's about:
1. Making chunk plays on offense (for most teams this is throwing the ball; for Baltimore it's also running the ball with the quarterback)
2. Limiting chunk plays on defense (Belichick has understood this for years, focusing on limiting big plays and using red zone defense to turn TDs into FGs)
3. Turnovers
If I had to set a goal for the Giants in 2020 it's to get Jones's YPA up above 7.5. Along with turnovers that well correlate most to wins, IMO."
To which Joey in VA replied:
"Fucking bullshit. It's the FOUNDATION of winning football, if you can't do those two things you have no prayer of winning consistently, absofuckinglutely none, no matter what you're tired Grumpy Smurf asshole takes are you whiny self absorbed cunt faced fuck. Because Gettleman said it you don't believe it. Watching the 49ers? They have thrown it SIX FUCKING TIMES because the Packers CANNOT STOP THE RUN. IT's not hard, but self proclaimed geniuses like you who in fact don't know fuck all about this game and how it's played like to spout ill advised fucking bullshit that mean nothing. Football is a really easy game once you do the simple things right. No one gives a flying rat fuck what you say anymore you fucking no good crying waste of a heartbeat. Fuck you."
there’s a lot of guys that are right, and only a few that constantly remind you of it. I enjoy GoTerps, when he wakes up on the right side of the bed I’ve got no issue with him and have had many great conversations. But when he’s on a mission I’ve learned to just walk away.
He’s brought some of it on himself, so I can’t say I feel bad. No doubt people are assholes to him, they suck too.
it was sad how upset he got grown folks (over football!), just for having his own thoughts. Seems so silly now. Hope he comes back, I always enjoyed his posts.
it was sad how upset he got grown folks (over football!), just for having his own thoughts. Seems so silly now. Hope he comes back, I always enjoyed his posts.
You're right about that. Given the current state of things it seems silly some of the childish nonsense that has gone on, myself included.
but this isn't a mob mentality turning him away. It was his relentless approach to consistently repeat himself over and over and over and over and over on every thread. It grew tiresome. We get it. He doesn't like the Giants and how they are run. But bitching about it nonstop was worse and became unbearable. It is one thing to have a differing opinion and a completely other thing to harp on the negative in almost every post. I liked his different viewpoints. I didn't like the constant negativity.
RE: RE: yeah, he posted something unflattering about the LW trade
if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of people who resent him for constantly being right just lit into him.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
It really wasn't. He wasn't abusive or even merely dismissive towards those who disagreed with him in an insulting way. I mean, it's not like he's FMIC.
There's a faction of people who simply seemed determined to take his observations personally. I'll never understand it.
And this will sound like piling on. I genuinely think Terps is a very knowledgeable poster and his outside the box thinking alot of times is refreshing. But he has gotten so overly negative to the point where is almost obsessive that I'm finding myself enjoying BBI much more without him. Every thread he involved himself in ended up devolving to the point where it became a Terps vs the world thread. It was tired and stale.
RE: RE: RE: yeah, he posted something unflattering about the LW trade
if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of people who resent him for constantly being right just lit into him.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
It really wasn't. He wasn't abusive or even merely dismissive towards those who disagreed with him in an insulting way. I mean, it's not like he's FMIC.
There's a faction of people who simply seemed determined to take his observations personally. I'll never understand it.
It really was. If you didn't hate on every move you were blind optimist.
I wouldn't call it abusive, but I would call it arrogant dismissive condescension that lacked any self awareness.
He never understood that his reactions were as much based on emotion as those of the blind optimist.
It really was. If you didn't hate on every move you were blind optimist.
I wouldn't call it abusive, but I would call it arrogant dismissive condescension that lacked any self awareness.
He never understood that his reactions were as much based on emotion as those of the blind optimist.
I don't think I ever saw him introduce himself into a discussion by dismissing people as blind optimists in any kind of pejorative way. Typically, he'd make an argument against the Giants' way of doing something, someone would get uber-defensive about it, and he'd then say something along the lines of, "You can either be a blind optimist, or you can see the reality of what the Giants have been over the past 3 years."
I can see how you can squint and see self-aggrandizement and condescension there, but you'd have to ignore the fact that it was almost always in response to someone getting bent out of shape about his initial position.
but its his delivery that always seemed to draw concentrated ire. I don't think that's a coincidence or some sort of coordinated gang-up on person X mentality. He's just another faceless handle on here so obviously it was his posts.
his cheering squad seems unable or unwilling to see that fact because they agree.
I saw his frustration and anger had shrunk his field of vision and his willingness to consider opposing perspectives, but the reactions to him ranged to uncalled for to banworthy. That's elementary level. This forum needs to do better diffusing anger and vitriol.
his cheering squad seems unable or unwilling to see that fact because they agree.
I saw his frustration and anger had shrunk his field of vision and his willingness to consider opposing perspectives, but the reactions to him ranged to uncalled for to banworthy. That's elementary level. This forum needs to do better diffusing anger and vitriol.
+1
Civil discourse is needed more than ever my friends. Please think about that before you respond to things.
There is more than one formula to playing winning/champions football
for being a critical thinker on every decision a sports team makes over just rooting for the team and hoping the moves work.
I'll be perfectly honest, anyone can be critical and there was a time in my life where I'd scrutinize the moves made by the teams I follow. But I don't see the point anymore outside of something clearly egregious. My views on sports have shifted and I don't take them all that seriously.
Just my $0.02 but there's a lot disdain thrown towards those that are simply along for the ride and a ton of dick measuring when it comes to being right about the Giants sucking. Its odd and its tiresome.
If you have ever been in the policy making world.....
either government or corporate America, you quickly realize that you can not advance your position if you are constantly alienating others. Its a skill to understand when to stand firm and what your red lines are, where and when compromises are necessary and appropriate and simply how to charm people. For him, everything was scorched earth.
"Winning in the NFL is not about running the ball and stopping the run. Once you've controlled for injuries, it's about:
1. Making chunk plays on offense (for most teams this is throwing the ball; for Baltimore it's also running the ball with the quarterback)
2. Limiting chunk plays on defense (Belichick has understood this for years, focusing on limiting big plays and using red zone defense to turn TDs into FGs)
3. Turnovers
If I had to set a goal for the Giants in 2020 it's to get Jones's YPA up above 7.5. Along with turnovers that well correlate most to wins, IMO."
To which Joey in VA replied:
"Fucking bullshit. It's the FOUNDATION of winning football, if you can't do those two things you have no prayer of winning consistently, absofuckinglutely none, no matter what you're tired Grumpy Smurf asshole takes are you whiny self absorbed cunt faced fuck. Because Gettleman said it you don't believe it. Watching the 49ers? They have thrown it SIX FUCKING TIMES because the Packers CANNOT STOP THE RUN. IT's not hard, but self proclaimed geniuses like you who in fact don't know fuck all about this game and how it's played like to spout ill advised fucking bullshit that mean nothing. Football is a really easy game once you do the simple things right. No one gives a flying rat fuck what you say anymore you fucking no good crying waste of a heartbeat. Fuck you."
Where’s arc? I know some have asked about him recently but I haven’t seen an answer yet. Has anyone heard from him? He just disappeared. Which is unfortunate because he is a great poster.
for being a critical thinker on every decision a sports team makes over just rooting for the team and hoping the moves work.
I'll be perfectly honest, anyone can be critical and there was a time in my life where I'd scrutinize the moves made by the teams I follow. But I don't see the point anymore outside of something clearly egregious. My views on sports have shifted and I don't take them all that seriously.
Just my $0.02 but there's a lot disdain thrown towards those that are simply along for the ride and a ton of dick measuring when it comes to being right about the Giants sucking. Its odd and its tiresome.
I disagree, no one bothers the just along for the ride posters.
If they were just along for the ride they won’t be spouting strong opinions that could be proven wrong. People with bad opinions get criticized which is standard for a message board.
would go hard on the vicious personal attacks the way they do political threads/posts.
Joey's a great football poster, but he has frequent outbursts of unacceptable vitriol which undeniably make a mockery of the terms of use. And he's not alone.
that said, Go Terps has been in enough scrapes that I doubt he was driven off. Taking a break is more likely, unless (I hope not) he has more pressing life issues.
iirc on that thread Terps basically said he's not going to deal with posts like that anymore and that he's out of here.
He isn't wrong, that post was bullshit and uncalled for. Joey made some good points but it was all lost when he went personal. I don't blame Terps for leaving on that one.
Is one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board. Sometimes he came across as angry because he is a diehard Giant fan who is sick and tired of losing and he had strong opinions as to why. I hope he returns soon.
I don’t miss Terps constant negativity whenever someone tried
to post an optimistic opinion about anything Giants related. It’s as if he would not allow the optimism to gather any steam, and he must shit on that opinion before it made someone feel good about their favorite team.
Just a miserable guy.
RE: I don’t miss Terps constant negativity whenever someone tried
to post an optimistic opinion about anything Giants related. It’s as if he would not allow the optimism to gather any steam, and he must shit on that opinion before it made someone feel good about their favorite team.
Just a miserable guy.
What do you mean "optimism gather any steam."
Were his responses to you not based in fact or supporting evidence?
Is one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board. Sometimes he came across as angry because he is a diehard Giant fan who is sick and tired of losing and he had strong opinions as to why. I hope he returns soon.
+1
He's one of the most consistent posters here. Hope he's just taking a break.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
Sometimes he was right, but his stance on any given issue was always that the Giants were wrong, the Giants were idiots, and those that disagreed with him were idiots.
Taking a predictable stance on everything doesnt show the great intellect that some of you often attribute to him. He wasn't weighing evidence to come to conclusions, he was often twisting it to suit his preconceived notions, the same thing he accused the rest of us of doing.
"Winning in the NFL is not about running the ball and stopping the run. Once you've controlled for injuries, it's about:
1. Making chunk plays on offense (for most teams this is throwing the ball; for Baltimore it's also running the ball with the quarterback)
2. Limiting chunk plays on defense (Belichick has understood this for years, focusing on limiting big plays and using red zone defense to turn TDs into FGs)
3. Turnovers
If I had to set a goal for the Giants in 2020 it's to get Jones's YPA up above 7.5. Along with turnovers that well correlate most to wins, IMO."
To which Joey in VA replied:
"Fucking bullshit. It's the FOUNDATION of winning football, if you can't do those two things you have no prayer of winning consistently, absofuckinglutely none, no matter what you're tired Grumpy Smurf asshole takes are you whiny self absorbed cunt faced fuck. Because Gettleman said it you don't believe it. Watching the 49ers? They have thrown it SIX FUCKING TIMES because the Packers CANNOT STOP THE RUN. IT's not hard, but self proclaimed geniuses like you who in fact don't know fuck all about this game and how it's played like to spout ill advised fucking bullshit that mean nothing. Football is a really easy game once you do the simple things right. No one gives a flying rat fuck what you say anymore you fucking no good crying waste of a heartbeat. Fuck you."
He’s brought some of it on himself, so I can’t say I feel bad. No doubt people are assholes to him, they suck too.
You're right about that. Given the current state of things it seems silly some of the childish nonsense that has gone on, myself included.
Well that is one interpretation. I think others would agree that he had become a self-righteous insufferable bore.
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another good example of the mob "winning" and exhausting a really good poster.
Well that is one interpretation. I think others would agree that he had become a self-righteous insufferable bore.
He had a few topic tracks that he could've eased up on his position, but a lot of the vitriol fired in his direction was over the top.
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if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of people who resent him for constantly being right just lit into him.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
It really wasn't. He wasn't abusive or even merely dismissive towards those who disagreed with him in an insulting way. I mean, it's not like he's FMIC.
There's a faction of people who simply seemed determined to take his observations personally. I'll never understand it.
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if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of people who resent him for constantly being right just lit into him.
His schtick was "I'm always right and if you disagree you're an idiot."
It really wasn't. He wasn't abusive or even merely dismissive towards those who disagreed with him in an insulting way. I mean, it's not like he's FMIC.
There's a faction of people who simply seemed determined to take his observations personally. I'll never understand it.
It really was. If you didn't hate on every move you were blind optimist.
I wouldn't call it abusive, but I would call it arrogant dismissive condescension that lacked any self awareness.
He never understood that his reactions were as much based on emotion as those of the blind optimist.
It really was. If you didn't hate on every move you were blind optimist.
I wouldn't call it abusive, but I would call it arrogant dismissive condescension that lacked any self awareness.
He never understood that his reactions were as much based on emotion as those of the blind optimist.
I don't think I ever saw him introduce himself into a discussion by dismissing people as blind optimists in any kind of pejorative way. Typically, he'd make an argument against the Giants' way of doing something, someone would get uber-defensive about it, and he'd then say something along the lines of, "You can either be a blind optimist, or you can see the reality of what the Giants have been over the past 3 years."
I can see how you can squint and see self-aggrandizement and condescension there, but you'd have to ignore the fact that it was almost always in response to someone getting bent out of shape about his initial position.
I saw his frustration and anger had shrunk his field of vision and his willingness to consider opposing perspectives, but the reactions to him ranged to uncalled for to banworthy. That's elementary level. This forum needs to do better diffusing anger and vitriol.
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his cheering squad seems unable or unwilling to see that fact because they agree.
I saw his frustration and anger had shrunk his field of vision and his willingness to consider opposing perspectives, but the reactions to him ranged to uncalled for to banworthy. That's elementary level. This forum needs to do better diffusing anger and vitriol.
+1
Civil discourse is needed more than ever my friends. Please think about that before you respond to things.
Terps is football knowledgeable but too inflexible. People don't respond well to the know-it-all approach.
I'll be perfectly honest, anyone can be critical and there was a time in my life where I'd scrutinize the moves made by the teams I follow. But I don't see the point anymore outside of something clearly egregious. My views on sports have shifted and I don't take them all that seriously.
Just my $0.02 but there's a lot disdain thrown towards those that are simply along for the ride and a ton of dick measuring when it comes to being right about the Giants sucking. Its odd and its tiresome.
"Winning in the NFL is not about running the ball and stopping the run. Once you've controlled for injuries, it's about:
1. Making chunk plays on offense (for most teams this is throwing the ball; for Baltimore it's also running the ball with the quarterback)
2. Limiting chunk plays on defense (Belichick has understood this for years, focusing on limiting big plays and using red zone defense to turn TDs into FGs)
3. Turnovers
If I had to set a goal for the Giants in 2020 it's to get Jones's YPA up above 7.5. Along with turnovers that well correlate most to wins, IMO."
To which Joey in VA replied:
"Fucking bullshit. It's the FOUNDATION of winning football, if you can't do those two things you have no prayer of winning consistently, absofuckinglutely none, no matter what you're tired Grumpy Smurf asshole takes are you whiny self absorbed cunt faced fuck. Because Gettleman said it you don't believe it. Watching the 49ers? They have thrown it SIX FUCKING TIMES because the Packers CANNOT STOP THE RUN. IT's not hard, but self proclaimed geniuses like you who in fact don't know fuck all about this game and how it's played like to spout ill advised fucking bullshit that mean nothing. Football is a really easy game once you do the simple things right. No one gives a flying rat fuck what you say anymore you fucking no good crying waste of a heartbeat. Fuck you."
Whoa, no wonder. Grumpy smurf is beyond the pale.
Oh yep thats the problem with this place over the past few year its become a beacon of optimism!...(insert face palm here)
I'll be perfectly honest, anyone can be critical and there was a time in my life where I'd scrutinize the moves made by the teams I follow. But I don't see the point anymore outside of something clearly egregious. My views on sports have shifted and I don't take them all that seriously.
Just my $0.02 but there's a lot disdain thrown towards those that are simply along for the ride and a ton of dick measuring when it comes to being right about the Giants sucking. Its odd and its tiresome.
I disagree, no one bothers the just along for the ride posters.
If they were just along for the ride they won’t be spouting strong opinions that could be proven wrong. People with bad opinions get criticized which is standard for a message board.
Bo Jackson was similar maybe?
Imo, noticing that the Giants had a horrible stretch of bad decisions is not a blinding insight.
Non stop being unable to modulate emotions as if being a Giants was forced labor in the gulag was emotional, boring and far from insight.
Rooting for the Giants is voluntary. Its important to not get bent or emotionally stuck on non essential things.
If someone came on here and hit up 15 threads a day mad about the past unfairness of his girlfriend we'd all say drop her if she hurts that much.
Happens to all of us in life and Go Terps did the right thing and my bet comes back to be the very good poster that he really is
Joey's a great football poster, but he has frequent outbursts of unacceptable vitriol which undeniably make a mockery of the terms of use. And he's not alone.
that said, Go Terps has been in enough scrapes that I doubt he was driven off. Taking a break is more likely, unless (I hope not) he has more pressing life issues.
Hope he is well.
In the end "3-13 says otherwise" trumps everything apparently so there's really no point in arguing. I can do that too, but I don't see the point.
He isn't wrong, that post was bullshit and uncalled for. Joey made some good points but it was all lost when he went personal. I don't blame Terps for leaving on that one.
Comes down to the motivation of participating in this forum and the manner in which you behave.
Are you here to share information, gain information, learn and debate? Do you do that with respect, honesty, rigor, and some semblance of logic?
Can anyone point out a time when Go Terps crossed those lines?
Just a miserable guy.
Just a miserable guy.
What do you mean "optimism gather any steam."
Were his responses to you not based in fact or supporting evidence?
+1
He's one of the most consistent posters here. Hope he's just taking a break.
In the end "3-13 says otherwise" trumps everything apparently so there's really no point in arguing. I can do that too, but I don't see the point.
I don’t follow.
People just along for the ride don’t have to justify anything.
They are just fans, they don’t make predictions or state opinions as facts.
On the other hand, people who have championed a lot of the recent moves are quite easy to tear down, often using DGs own admissions as evidence.
Others view him as outside the box thinking, and don't see what the Pro-DG crowd sees.
Thus why Britt is complaining and others like Ron Mexico don't see any of it as other then him being a fan and talking football.
Others view him as outside the box thinking, and don't see what the Pro-DG crowd sees.
Thus why Britt is complaining and others like Ron Mexico don't see any of it as other then him being a fan and talking football.
What am I complaining about exactly?