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NFT: They just closed my school for the year.

MBavaro : 3/26/2020 6:26 pm
All the schools in Vermont, actually.

What a kick to the gut. I had a feeling last week would be the last time I saw my kids this year, but didn't want to believe it.

I know it's trivial with other important things happening, but this just fucking sucks.....
they aren't making you  
Giantsfan79 : 3/26/2020 6:32 pm : link
do online work with your classes?
We made the decision in VA on Monday.  
Britt in VA : 3/26/2020 6:35 pm : link
I wasn't surprised. Don't look at it as a barometer of the severity, though, however unprecedented....

My take is that schools would always be one of the top 3 breeding grounds for this thing, and we have to shut that down until it's under control. Yeah, it sucks, but not surprising in the least.
Teacher here -- State of Georgia  
Gmaniac1 : 3/26/2020 6:45 pm : link
Governor just announced all schools closed until April 24th... will be re-evaluated closer to that date to see if we just cancel the year.

Last day of school here is like May 21st, so we'd have less than a month left anyways.
I feel bad for the High School  
pjcas18 : 3/26/2020 6:52 pm : link
seniors.

I didn't get it at first, but I have two high school seniors (twins) and every day different things are being canceled.

senior night, senior picnic, senior class trip, and now the prom and graduation are in jeopardy.

They are saying the right things, and they understand the reasons, but they're still sad.

Unique situation, and initially my thoughts were if i was a HS senior this would be awesome, but no, they are upset and I understand it now.
This virus SUCKS!  
Giant John : 3/26/2020 7:04 pm : link
Everybody I know is camping at home. I have twins in HS. They are juniors. Good buy prom, no lacrosse, health comes first. That’s just the breaks.
RE: they aren't making you  
MBavaro : 3/26/2020 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14850787 Giantsfan79 said:
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do online work with your classes?


Of course, but it's not the same. Well make it work, but still sucks.

I'll stop the pitty party now.
Mine are done with school  
eli4life : 3/26/2020 7:14 pm : link
But what happens do they have to repeat the year? Just wondering it would suck even more for seniors
Awwww  
Bradshaw's Decal : 3/26/2020 7:26 pm : link
But you'll see those checks all year long . Must be nice... Then in three years, another bloated raise with even more benefits.... Poor you. Fucking teachers are never happy...
MBavaro  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/26/2020 7:36 pm : link
We are in Milton district and yeah, daughter is now out for the year. Also lost my job at Flynn last week, so I guess that works out.
RE: Mine are done with school  
pjcas18 : 3/26/2020 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14850845 eli4life said:
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But what happens do they have to repeat the year? Just wondering it would suck even more for seniors


no. In Massachusetts they have said if there is no more school everyone moves on to the next grade. And seniors graduate unceremoniously.

RE: Awwww  
Hammer : 3/26/2020 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14850857 Bradshaw's Decal said:
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But you'll see those checks all year long . Must be nice... Then in three years, another bloated raise with even more benefits.... Poor you. Fucking teachers are never happy...


Are you always a douchebag or just part-time?
Bradshaws decal  
Buzzard64 : 3/26/2020 7:52 pm : link
What a bitter asshole you must be.
RE: Awwww  
Gmaniac1 : 3/26/2020 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14850857 Bradshaw's Decal said:
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But you'll see those checks all year long . Must be nice... Then in three years, another bloated raise with even more benefits.... Poor you. Fucking teachers are never happy...

RE: RE: Mine are done with school  
eli4life : 3/26/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14850867 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14850845 eli4life said:


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But what happens do they have to repeat the year? Just wondering it would suck even more for seniors



no. In Massachusetts they have said if there is no more school everyone moves on to the next grade. And seniors graduate unceremoniously.


That’s good especially since they are only a few months from being done for the year
These are appropriately local decisions,  
KeoweeFan : 3/26/2020 8:03 pm : link
not necessarily now, when it is rational for everyone to stay home - but later when there is enough real data to feed decisions when and how to relax restrictions.

I'm pushing 80 so I feel entitled to voice an opinion that we need to balance alarming health concerns with very real economic and quality of life concerns. I think this issue is being ignored with respect to the recovery period (whenever it occurs).

My poor metaphor is traffic fatalities (40,000 per year) with victims of all ages. We could cut that substantially with a simple rule that the national speed limit is 45 mph. We don't do that because of the economic and quality of life implications.

At some point as the crisis eases, authorities are going to have to make decisions regarding that balance.

(Who else has studied "Welfare Economics" informed by the economist and statistician Vilfredo Paredo? And some of you thought he only pioneered the 80 - 20 rule.)

My kids are out of school but I really  
oghwga : 3/26/2020 8:19 pm : link
Feel for these high school or even college kids going through this. Plus they've never really had any adversity in their young lives, too young to remember 9/11 and the crash of 2007 didn't affect them and then bang in the biggest year of their long young lives they get a global pandemic.

Even though a senior prom is inconsequential in the middle of a global pandemic a month ago it was a HUGE thing on their future calendars.

It will definitely reshape the Outlook of the next generation and maybe it will be a good thing in the long run.

Good luck to all you parents with kids in that age group.
We cannot underestimate  
Reeses Pieces : 3/26/2020 8:47 pm : link
The impact of the school closures on the students. Many will fall behind due to the lower quality of instruction. Special education students are drastically lacking the supports they need. There will be a large increase in Tier 3 students to begin the school year this Fall. The entire situation is unfortunate.
RE: These are appropriately local decisions,  
beatrixkiddo : 3/26/2020 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14850885 KeoweeFan said:
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not necessarily now, when it is rational for everyone to stay home - but later when there is enough real data to feed decisions when and how to relax restrictions.

I'm pushing 80 so I feel entitled to voice an opinion that we need to balance alarming health concerns with very real economic and quality of life concerns. I think this issue is being ignored with respect to the recovery period (whenever it occurs).

My poor metaphor is traffic fatalities (40,000 per year) with victims of all ages. We could cut that substantially with a simple rule that the national speed limit is 45 mph. We don't do that because of the economic and quality of life implications.

At some point as the crisis eases, authorities are going to have to make decisions regarding that balance.

(Who else has studied "Welfare Economics" informed by the economist and statistician Vilfredo Paredo? And some of you thought he only pioneered the 80 - 20 rule.)


Great post Keowee Fan. And yes I am very much familiar with Paredo and the Paredo Principle. You are 100% spot on with your assessment, and I share the exact same sentiment that the majority of people have totally lost their senses in the grand scale of things. Car fatalities are a great example, so are the many other diseases. The seasonal Flu kills over 40,000 people in the US alone, 1.7 million die from Tuberculosis, we aren’t shutting down the world because of those though?! Scratch my head , where are all the alarm bells people should be ringing from that?

Now I know some angered poster will probably take what I’ve stated out of context and say I’m on one side of an extreme, and create whatever strawmans they may to discredit the point I am trying to make which is this is a gross over reaction, where the medicine for this problem is going to cause a greater deal of bad than good. There are common sense things that should be done, but in the end sensationalism and instilling fear and a sense of crisis to the masses with a bad solution is what we end up with. I won’t go on to much but another great and timely read is Robert Higgs classic “Crisis and Leviathan”.
RE: RE: These are appropriately local decisions,  
section125 : 3/26/2020 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14850937 beatrixkiddo said:
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Now I know some angered poster will probably take what I’ve stated out of context and say I’m on one side of an extreme, and create whatever strawmans they may to discredit the point I am trying to make which is this is a gross over reaction, where the medicine for this problem is going to cause a greater deal of bad than good. There are common sense things that should be done, but in the end sensationalism and instilling fear and a sense of crisis to the masses with a bad solution is what we end up with. I won’t go on to much but another great and timely read is Robert Higgs classic “Crisis and Leviathan”.


This is not a gross over reaction. This is a virus to which humans have no natural defense. In 1918 1/3 of the entire human population got ill. There was no defense. This is more contagious. This is deadlier. Drastic measures are needed. Unfortunately people are unwilling to accept that this is "War of the Worlds" type devastation.
Places that have taken "social distancing" seriously are seeing slow downs in cases. All we are doing is pushing off spread of the disease until a vaccine can be created.
Pareto's Principle is wildly over-used.  
kicker : 3/26/2020 9:54 pm : link
By the way, the economy would not be humming along if we decided on less drastic measures. People would self quarantine, and there would still be significant business closures and economic activity grinding to a screeching halt.

People who do not agree with shelter in place also ignore the tremendous burden that lesser measures would put on the healthcare system, and potentially dramatically reduce the number of front-line workers in the near future, which would have dramatic implications for the shitty mess our healthcare system is in.
That said, schools here are closed until late May, so  
kicker : 3/26/2020 9:56 pm : link
formal graduations have been "postponed". There is a chance that summer sessions could be impacted.
I am surprised this thread  
Darth Paul : 3/27/2020 6:46 am : link
Is still here. Figured the Mods would delete.

Right now remote learning is through spring break, which ends 4/17. I assume it will run longer, but schools have not confirmed.
RE: I am surprised this thread  
J : 3/27/2020 6:55 am : link
In comment 14851057 Darth Paul said:
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Is still here. Figured the Mods would delete.

Right now remote learning is through spring break, which ends 4/17. I assume it will run longer, but schools have not confirmed.


other than returning to school, what are the reasons for not continuing it?
Distance Learning  
bt : 3/27/2020 7:10 am : link
Those implementing distance learning, please contact me (see profile for contact info) to discuss how it is being done. Thank you.
RE: RE: I am surprised this thread  
Darth Paul : 3/27/2020 9:33 am : link
In comment 14851060 J said:
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In comment 14851057 Darth Paul said:


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Is still here. Figured the Mods would delete.

Right now remote learning is through spring break, which ends 4/17. I assume it will run longer, but schools have not confirmed.



other than returning to school, what are the reasons for not continuing it?


Not sure I even understand what you're asking. Maybe I need to be clear and say remote learning is scheduled through spring break and the kids would return to school after spring break. they have not yet said there is remote learning indefinitely there's a deadline on remote learning presently.

if you're asking about continuing the thread clearly this thread is in relationship to the virus which the mods have made clear multiple times needs to be in the virus thread. That is why I'm surprised the thread is still here.
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