"As mock drafts begin to come together, many NFL scouts believe the New York Giants will select Clemson linebacker/safety Isaiah Simmons at No. 4 overall. One scout said: "They kept Nate Solder and added an OK right tackle in [Cameron] Fleming. I think they're set up to wait on a tackle."
Simmons has a rare skillset but he isn't "Mr. Sure thing" either so there is a shade of risk. However, I think he can be a demon blitzing and certainly covering. I think he projects to NFL SS or possibly even a big FS.
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Also signed a LB and have a young kid inside, plus have Peppers and Love at S. The logic there isn't sound.
I do fully believe it's Simmons or OT though.
Love is not the answer.
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Brown likely the pick. Trust me (if no trade down).
I've speculated and heard the same.
This is my biggest fear. Good player but we are loaded at interior DL. We need Edge or play maker
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One scout said: "They kept Nate Solder and added an OK right tackle in [Cameron] Fleming. I think they're set up to wait on a tackle."
should be demoted to scouting the Alaska-region.
In just two short sentences he managed to not understand that Solder's cap hit is greater than his value as a LT, overstate Fleming as a 16-game starter and understate that the draft is for longer term investing in things such as OL.
A scout did not say that - Matt made it up
The NYG front office takes a lot of crap, but they are not waiting on a Tackle based on this rational.
If they do, then they should take a lot of crap.
What sort of market is there for him? Recoup a third we lost in the LW trade?
I'd sign Tomlinson at 10m/yr and grab an OT/Simmons instead of taking Brown at 8m/yr and a 4-5th/rounder. Outside of Tomlinson being a vestige of Reese, I don't understand why he wouldn't be a priority for this staff and a guy that closes the door on interior DL prospects.
Word up. Trade down 1 pr a few spots and pick up another 2nd rounder, but an OT is the target for RD 1. I would draft a Center in RD 2 as well.
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another putrid front line will be just fine.
Word up. Trade down 1 pr a few spots and pick up another 2nd rounder, but an OT is the target for RD 1. I would draft a Center in RD 2 as well.
Agree w this 100%
If Det turns down a trade at 3 Gettleman will get a kings ransom for that 4th pick. Both Miami and the Chargers will be going for Tua.
This is so accurate. But the defense also desperately needs a player like Simmons. This is why I hope that Gettlemans tenuous job status doesn’t result in the team making shortsighted decisions. The team has so many needs. And he largely made his bed by halting the rebuilding and acquiescing to two years of “retool, not rebuild.”
There are only a few possible conclusions and with hundreds if not thousands of people putting in their guesses you know what? A lot of them will be right. Even on BBI. Haha.
Now what they 'should do' is draft an OT in Round 1. It's the best class in many years with multiple Top 10 prospects to choose from. We've a shit ton invested in Jones and Barkley. It just makes too much sense for me to put my chips on a different position.
Idk how you can say no one knew jack shit. I believe it was Charles Robinson who tweeted that we had Daniel Jones as our top rated QB. I'd have to look, but I believe Hitdog called us drafting him at 6. Don't remember if it was Hitdog or someone else, but someone put it out that Dexter Lawrence was the favorite for the 17th pick.
I still disagree with that. You would then have a a 16 mm dollar cap hit player + 2 1st round picks (lawerence and now Brown). And all 3 don't get to the QB in pass rushing situations consistently. So again the allocation for a non premium position makes little sense to me.
The Giants still would have protection issues for there QB not addressing OT, you still can't rush the passer because you are weak on the edge. And you stil can't defend the middle of the field because you have very little speed at LB.
You can't keep pumping assets into the interior D-line. Especially when a couple of those guys don't even see the field in passing situatins with 3-WR sets which is literally 50% of the game now.
We should use-
BPATFAN- Best player available that fills a need.
HVPA- Highest valued player available.
Very few teams can go into a draft in a position to take the very best player available, regardless of position.
Also, BPA isn't necessarily followed because some positions just have more value then others.
There is a chance that Simmons could be the pick,
But, it's pretty obvious with what the Giants have done in FA that they are going OT at 4,5 or 6.
3 of those are in the last 18 picks of the entire draft.
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So true. The annual 'the Giants will do this or like this guy' etc is speculative. And every year there are those that believe 'someone knew' conspiracy nuts. No one knew jack shit.
There are only a few possible conclusions and with hundreds if not thousands of people putting in their guesses you know what? A lot of them will be right. Even on BBI. Haha.
Now what they 'should do' is draft an OT in Round 1. It's the best class in many years with multiple Top 10 prospects to choose from. We've a shit ton invested in Jones and Barkley. It just makes too much sense for me to put my chips on a different position.
Idk how you can say no one knew jack shit. I believe it was Charles Robinson who tweeted that we had Daniel Jones as our top rated QB. I'd have to look, but I believe Hitdog called us drafting him at 6. Don't remember if it was Hitdog or someone else, but someone put it out that Dexter Lawrence was the favorite for the 17th pick.
So many things get said between all the mock drafts, etc. someone is bound to be right.
Simmons has a rare skillset but he isn't "Mr. Sure thing" either so there is a shade of risk. However, I think he can be a demon blitzing and certainly covering. I think he projects to NFL SS or possibly even a big FS.
My biggest concern is that he doesn't play with his hair on fire, which is what you love to see out of a LB. He's smooth, almost in a bad way.
However he is so versatile and has such an interesting skillset, you can man him up a against elite TEs or prototypical X receivers and shut them down.
I don't believe he's making something up out of thin air but I also believe just about everyone this time of year is embellishing stuff they are hearing that isn't even all that accurate in the first place.
Or do they only have time during the draft to talk?
2. your needs this year are unlikely to be your needs 3 years from now when the player matures, hits his peak, etc.
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Brown likely the pick. Trust me (if no trade down).
If Det turns down a trade at 3 Gettleman will get a kings ransom for that 4th pick. Both Miami and the Chargers will be going for Tua.
Apparently, there is lots of concern about Tea and his injuries. Some think Herbert and Jordan Love might pressure that #2 QB spot (in the draft).
I do fully believe it's Simmons or OT though.
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I would NOT be shocked if it was Simmons, Okudah, or Young if he fell due to QB's being taken early!
Simmons has a rare skillset but he isn't "Mr. Sure thing" either so there is a shade of risk. However, I think he can be a demon blitzing and certainly covering. I think he projects to NFL SS or possibly even a big FS.
My biggest concern is that he doesn't play with his hair on fire, which is what you love to see out of a LB. He's smooth, almost in a bad way.
However he is so versatile and has such an interesting skillset, you can man him up a against elite TEs or prototypical X receivers and shut them down.
If we don't trade down, and Simmons and Okudah are there at #4, well you still take Okudah whom I believe is a "sure fire rookie blue chipper" whereas Simmons has upside but isn't "as sure" a stud. IMHO
That is different than being scheme flexible