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Defenderdawg : 3/28/2020 9:06 am
Giants

Lombardo NJ.com: NFL Draft 2020: Ranking Giants’ remaining needs post-free agency | How do Blake Martinez, Kyler Fackrell impact Dave Gettleman’s board?
https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/03/nfl-draft-2020-ranking-giants-remaining-needs-post-free-agency-how-do-blake-martinez-kyler-fackrell-impact-dave-gettlemans-board.html

Kempski Phillyvoice: NFC East 2020 free agency grades: New York Giants edition

“Dave Gettleman is somehow only entering his third year as the New York Giants' general manager, though it feels like he's been there far longer than that. His 2018 and 2019 offseasons were objectively atrocious, and often comical.
Let's see what he and the Giants have done so far in 2020 free agency.
Players they retained
• DE Leonard Williams (Franchise tag, one year, $16,126,000)
After consecutive losses to the Cardinals and Lions in October, the Giants were 2-6, and their season was basically over. So what did Gettleman do? He traded a third-round pick (which is now the 68th overall pick) in 2020 and a fifth-round pick (that could become a fourth-round pick) in 2021 to the Jets for Williams, essentially for 8 games. Lol.

They couldn't get a long-term deal done with Williams, and since the loss of a pair of draft picks for a team that went 4-12 the year before would have been wholly indefensible, they franchise tagged him.
Williams has been a disappointment as the sixth overall pick in the 2015 draft (17.5 career sacks in five years, 0.5 in 2019), but he's still a good interior defensive line starter. He is obviously not worth $16,126,000 for one year, and his agent should be thrilled to get the tag.
• LB David Mayo (three years, $8.4 million)
The Giants picked up Mayo after the Niners cut him after training camp. He had 82 tackles, 2 sacks in 2019. Good run defender, bad in coverage.
• WR Cody Core (two years, $4 million)
Special teams guy.
• WR Corey Coleman (money details unknown)
The former first round bust signed with the Giants in 2018, had 5 catches that season, and then tore an ACL during training camp in 2019.
Players they gained
• CB James Bradbury (signed for three years, $43.5 million)
Paying $14.5 million/year for Bradbury is pricey, but he's 26 years old (he'll turn 27 in August), and the Giants have a clean out after two years if he under-performs.
The Giants made the correct decision to get Janoris Jenkins off their roster after he used an offensive slur, and then stood by it. As a result, however, they were extremely light at corner, and absolutely had to address it in free agency. With the Eagles, Dolphins, and Raiders all bidding on Byron Jones, the Giants went hard after the next guy up after him, and got their man. If that was done purposefully, that's not a bad strategy. We'll give Gettleman a golf clap there.
• LB Blake Martinez (signed for three years, $30.75 million)
Ahhhh, and we're right back to the Gettleman we know and love. Yes, Martinez is a tackling machine, at least in the stat column. He had 155 tackles in 2019 (second in the NFL), 144 in 2018 (again, second in the NFL), and 144 in 2017 (tied for first in the NFL).
And yet, he really isn't a very good tackler. According to pro-football-reference.com, Martinez missed 18 tackles last year, giving him a bad missed tackle percentage of 10.4 percent.
Racking up a lot of tackles doesn't move the needle in today's NFL. Remember the Eagles-Packers game last year, when the Eagles racked up 176 rushing yards and 2 TDs on 33 carries? Well, Martinez had 15 tackles in that game (the next closest Packer had 8), and I'll bet that nobody here remembers anything about him from that game.
What does matter in today's NFL is being able to cover, and Martinez struggles there. He is a player that maybe should have a lot appeal in 1980, not 2020.
• OLB Kyler Fackrell (one year, $4.6 million)
Markus Golden's signing to a one-year "prove it" deal was a rare 2019 offseason move that made sense for the Giants, and he quietly had a productive 2019 season, racking up 72 tackles, 10 sacks, 13 tackles for loss, and 27 hits on the quarterback. In 2019, after hitting sack incentives, Golden made $4,750,000. Surprisingly, he remains unsigned. The guess here is that he's asking for more money than teams want to pay.
If the Giants are going from Golden to Fackrell, that is a substantial downgrade.
• RB Dion Lewis (money details unknown)
It's hard not to think of Gettleman's signing of an already cooked Jonathan Stewart a few years ago here. Lewis is coming off two down seasons in Tennessee, and he turns 30 in September.
• OT Cameron Fleming (money details unknown)
Fleming has played in 75 games, with 26 starts, and never more than 7 starts in one season. He could replace journeyman Mike Remmers at RT. If Fleming was added as depth only, then great. Good signing. If they view him as a starting RT, then a pairing of Nate Solder and Fleming would give the Giants one of the worst offensive tackle combos in the NFL.
• DT Austin Johnson (money details unknown)
Johnson is known more as a run stuffer, because of course he is. He'll be a backup behind Williams, Dalvin Tomlinson, and Dexter Lawrence. The Giants have almost no threats at all to get to the quarterback.
• QB Colt McCoy (one year, reported at $2.5 million)
For a team that has seemingly found its franchise quarterback in Daniel Jones, but is still going nowhere in 2020, McCoy makes sense as a low-cost backup.
• TE Levine Toilolo (two years, $6.2 million)
Toilolo is a 6'8, 270-pound blocking tight end with fewer than 1000 receiving yards in 7 seasons.
• S Nate Ebner (one year, $2 million)
Long-time special teams guy with the Patri*ts. Former Pats special teams coach Joe Judge undoubtedly wanted him. 
Players they lost
• QB Eli Manning, Retirement
By far, Manning's retirement is the best thing that happened to the Giants this offseason. They should have moved on from Manning years ago, but because the Giants felt that they owed him some sort of insanely idiotic loyalty, they kept him and his massive cap hits around until he finally retired.
• RT Mike Remmers (Chiefs)
Remmers' NFL tour continues:

1. Denver Broncos (2012)
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2012–2013)
3. San Diego Chargers (2013)
4. Minnesota Vikings (2013)
5. St. Louis Rams (2014)*
6. Carolina Panthers (2014–2016)
7. Minnesota Vikings (2017–2018)
8. New York Giants (2019)
9. Kansas City Chiefs (2020–present)

As noted above already, to be determined if the Giants have a better plan than Cameron Fleming to replace him.
• WR Cody Latimer (Washington)
Latimer was a second-round disappointment for the Broncos, but at least became a useful special teams guy and No. 4 receiver for the Giants the last two years.
• CB Antonio Hamilton (Chiefs)
Special teamer and backup corner.

Analysis/grade
The Giants entered 2020 free agency with a boatload of cap space, and a Swiss cheese roster. It shouldn't have been hard for them to get significantly better in free agency, and it's debatable whether they really did that or not, even after signing nine outside players.
The Giants absolutely had to sign a cornerback, and they did so in Bradberry. He'll certainly help. 
But beyond that, they spent on a lot of "guys," none of whom have much in the way of projected upside. Is there anyone in the Giants' "players added" column above who hasn't already reached their ceiling, or is coming down from it? In my view, no. 
For a team that has gone 12-36 the last three years, the focus should have been on adding young players with an upward trajectory, not paying for non-impact role players who just are what they are.
Grade: C-“

https://www.phillyvoice.com/nfc-east-2020-free-agency-grades-new-york-giants-edition/

TE

TE Eric Tomlinson posted on IG that he has signed with the Giants. Tomlinson was claimed by the Giants after he was waived by the Jets on cut day last year. He spent three weeks with the Giants as a blocking TE before getting cut. Then spent time with the Patriots and Raiders
Dan Duggan
⁦‪@DDuggan21‬⁩

The Giants are expected to run a tight end heavy offense under Jason Garrett. After the signing of Eric Tomlinson these are the TEs currently under contract:

Evan Engram
Levine Toilolo
Kaden Smith
Eric Tomlinson
Garrett Dickerson
CJ Conrad
Jordan Raanan
⁦‪@JordanRaanan‬⁩

CB

Schwartz NYP: Giants relying on James Bradberry to fill leadership void
https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/giants-relying-on-james-bradberry-to-fill-leadership-void/

Wiliis NYP: James Bradberry bringing massive ‘chip on shoulder’ to Giants
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/james-bradberry-bringing-massive-chip-on-shoulder-to-giants/amp/

McDonald NYDN: New Giants CB James Bradberry says he was surprised by Big Blue’s free-agent offer
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-james-bradberry-introduced-20200327-bhr3werporhwpp7tpwrjfanzoy-story.html

Lombardo NJ.com: James Bradberry was shocked Giants signed him, despite familiarity with GM Dave Gettleman
https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/03/james-bradberry-was-shocked-giants-signed-him-despite-familiarity-with-gm-dave-gettleman.html

Traina SI.com: How James Bradberry Will Bring Leadership to a Still Young Giants Cornerbacks Room
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/how-james-bradberry-will-bring-leadership-to-a-still-young-giants-cornerbacks-room

Eisen Giants.com: James Bradberry brings experience to Giants DB room
https://www.giants.com/news/james-bradberry-dave-gettleman-free-agency-nfl-2020-carolina-panthers-contract

Salomone Giants.com: 5 things to know about CB James Bradberry
https://www.giants.com/news/james-bradberry-agrees-to-terms-carolina-panthers-nfl-free-agency-2020

Schmeelk Giants.com: Film Study: How CB James Bradberry fits Giants
https://www.giants.com/news/james-bradberry-carolina-panthers-giants-scheme-nfl-free-agency-2020

FS

Doing some research:

Antoine Bethea might have been the worst free safety in the red zone I've ever seen last year.

He allowed SEVEN touchdowns on a 72.5 completion percentage.

The Giants need to upgrade this position immediately. Could be Julian Love!
Alex Wilson
⁦‪@AlexWilsonESM‬⁩

NFL

Battista NFL.com: How NFL is trying to navigate COVID-19
https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107767/article/nfl-team-executive-inperson-offseason-activities-unlikely?

Top dead money charges in 2020

1. Foles- $18.8M
2. Flacco- $13.6M
3. Brady- $13.5M
4. Gurley- $11.8M
5. M. Kalil- $9.8M
6. T. Turner- $9.6M
7. Diggs- $9M
8. R. Jones- $8.1M
9. Berry- $8M
10. Luck- $6.4M
Jason_OTC
⁦‪@Jason_OTC‬⁩

Eight teams spend more on RBs than QBs, but they are teams all with rookie QBs (Jaguars, Jets, Texans, Broncos, Giants, Ravens, and Cardinals) and the Patriots with Hoyer basically on the minimum
Jason_OTC
⁦‪@Jason_OTC‬⁩

ARIZONA
Cluff AZ Republic: Arizona Cardinals could still pick CeeDee Lamb in NFL draft after DeAndre Hopkins trade
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/2923216001

BALTIMORE
Preston Baltimore Sun: Free-agent disappointment leaves Ravens with big hole on defensive line
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/analysis/preston/bs-sp-brockers-20200328-rnj6ssi4cbdxhisoyfc5doedvi-story.html

Shaffer Baltimore Sun: Calais Campbell knows his value. The Ravens offered the right price for the right place
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-calais-campbell-20200327-w3376kmuzfesdas6trtx3ygguu-story.html

CINCINNATI
Sheeran Cincy Jungle: Bengals reportedly interested in XFL stud Cam Phillips
https://www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2020/3/27/21197130/nfl-free-agent-rumors-cincinnati-bengals-houston-roughnecks-cam-phillips

CLEVELAND
Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Baker Mayfield killing his garage workouts: ‘Trying to keep my sanity during this quarantine period’
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/03/baker-mayfield-killing-his-garage-workouts-trying-to-keep-my-sanity-during-this-quarantine-period.html

Williams Cleveland Plain Dealer: What did the Browns defense gain in signing former Vikings safety Andrew Sendejo? -- Film review
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/03/what-did-the-browns-defense-gain-in-signing-former-vikings-safety-andrew-sendejo-film-review.html

DALLAS
ESPN: Source: Cowboys, kicker Greg Zuerlein reach 3-year deal
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28963656/source-cowboys-sign-kicker-greg-zuerlein-3-year-deal?

Sources: Former Rams K Greg Zuerlein is headed to the Cowboys, rejoining special teams coach John Fassel. Zuerlein gets a three-year deal with a base value of $7.5 million
Mike Garafolo
⁦‪@MikeGarafolo‬⁩

DENVER
O’Halloran Denver Post: Melvin Gordon confident he can regain form, be “great 1-2 punch” with Phillip Lindsay in Broncos backfield
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/27/melving-gordon-on-broncos-backfield-phillip-lindsay/

O’Halloran Denver Post: Broncos defensive end Shelby Harris agrees to one-year contract to remain with team
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/27/broncos-shelby-harris-agree-to-contract/

DT Shelby Harris has a $2.5 million fully guaranteed salary with $750,000 in per game roster bonuses ($46,875 per game) per sources. Harris has played in all 48 games through his first 3 seasons in Denver
Mike Klis
⁦‪@MikeKlis‬⁩

DETROIT
Birkett Detroit Free Press: Here's what Detroit Lions roster needs with NFL draft 1 month away
https://amp.freep.com/amp/2925694001

Monarrez Detroit Free Press: Chase Daniel will make Detroit Lions' locker room 'better.' Just ask his college coach
https://amp.freep.com/amp/2931851001

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions add LBs Reggie Ragland, Elijah Lee 2 months after playing in Super Bowl
https://amp.freep.com/amp/2925200001

HOUSTON
McClain Houston Chronicle: McClain's Mailbag: Is receiver or pass rusher the bigger Texans priority?
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/john-mcclain/amp/mailbag-Texans-Astros-Rockets-15160591.php

INDIANAPOLIS
Walker Colts.com: Sheldon Day On Playing Style, Matching Up Again With DeForest Buckner, Indy Memories
https://www.colts.com/news/sheldon-day-deforest-buckner-san-francisco-49ers-super-bowl-liv

Walker Colts.com: Colts Sign All-Pro Free Agent CB Xavier Rhodes
https://www.colts.com/news/xavier-rhodes-signs-free-agency-minnesota-vikings-roster-moves

LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
I know the Chargers are likely to address QB or OT at #6 but can you imagine adding someone like Derrick Brown or Isaiah Simmons to this defense?
Daniel Jeremiah
⁦‪@MoveTheSticks‬⁩

LOS ANGELES RAMS
Klein LA Times: Michael Brockers will re-sign with Rams after Ravens deal falls through
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2020-03-27/michael-brockers-will-re-sign-with-rams-after-ravens-deal-falls-through?

MIAMI
Beasley Miami Herald: Miami Dolphins showed Thursday how NFL business can go forward in age of coronavirus
https://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article241555271.html

Hyde Sun Sentinel: Three GMs weigh Dolphins’ ‘scary propositions’ in drafting QB
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-hyde-dolphins-gms-qb-20200327-jjwv2ybm5jg2payi53mrz4z6le-story.html

Jackson Miami Herald: Another change in Miami Dolphins’ cap space and what it means. And more Tua feedback

“By raising the first-year cap hit of some players, that lessens their hits in 2021, when Miami could forge as much as $80 million in space if the cap rises to $240 million, as FanSided has reported. So there is logic behind how the Dolphins structured these deals.
But unless Miami releases Albert Wilson or another player, the current cap situation doesn’t allow for any more free agent splurges among the big names still available.”

“The handful of teams with a legitimate chance to draft Alabama’s Tua Tagovailoa — or trade up for him — all face the same conundrum in balancing his durability issues with his impressive skill set and NFL potential.
Former Colts general manager Bill Polian offered insight into that process in a conversation with Alex Marvez on Sirius XM radio.

“I talked to two doctors who were at the Combine,” Polian said. “Both are positive about him. They had not seen his scan at a time we talked. Both docs felt he was well on his way to healing based on reports they had received from physicians treating him at Alabama.
“What worries you a little bit is that injury coupled with the high ankle sprain from the year before before that had to be surgically repaired. You worry is he a little bit injury prone? If I were drafting in the top five, it would keep me awake a little bit. But then I would watch the film and say, ‘I’m taking him.’”
Polian said: “Tua jumps off the film at you. He’s a quick-twitch athlete playing quarterback. That’s rare. That’s Russell Wilson territory. He’s built to some degree like Russell. A little on the short side and wide side. He’s got remarkable release, just incredible, ball is out of there and it’s spinning and it’s accurate and it’s got juice on it.
“He can throw it through a wall if he has to. He has got great touch, great accuracy. Has got tremendous quickness in his feet. When your feet and lower body are out of sync with your arm, you get inaccuracy and interceptions. Tua’s feet are like that of a tap dancer. His feet are incredibly quick. He can change direction quickly. He sees things exceptionally well and the ball comes out, ‘Whoosh.’ It’s out. Quickness of release, accuracy and processing are common to all great quarterbacks and he has all three.”

NBC’s Chris Simms has been more skeptical of Tagovailoa than any national pundit, in terms of whether his style of play will allow him to stay healthy as a professional.
“He had a ton of talent around him,” Simms said. “This is where we have to be careful when we evaluate quarterbacks… He’s a gifted athlete, he’s got great feet, he can hop around the pocket, he’s a good runner… I don’t think he’s necessarily going to be a great runner in the NFL… He’s a natural at the quarterback position, he really does understand it…
“He is very scary to me, I’m not necessarily sold that the type of style he plays will translate to the NFL… I’m certainly docking him a little bit because of size, injury history and further injury concern…Being in the top 10, it would scare me with Tua.”
Simms ranks Tua as only the fourth-best quarterback in the draft, behind Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert and Jordan Love.

My colleague Armando Salguero has reported Dolphins’ interest in Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert and NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah said this week: “I’ve been told by trusted personnel sources around the league that the Dolphins have strong grades on Joe Burrow, Tagovailoa and Justin Herbert.
“I could see them attempting to move up for Burrow, but I seriously doubt the Bengals will trade the top pick. It’s not hard to imagine the Fins making a move up to the No. 3 slot in order to land their preferred choice between Tagovailoa and Herbert. However, I’m not certain which player will top their list. I’ll stick with Tagovailoa under the assumption the Dolphins are comfortable with his recovery from hip surgery.”

Jeremiah said he and NFL Network colleagues Bucky Brooks “had a good chat with Dolphins GM Chris Grier during the NFL Scouting Combine.
“He mentioned to us that his player personnel staff had spent time studying the QB crop in the 2021 class, as well as the current one. This led us to believe there was an outside chance they could address other needs in this year’s draft and pursue their signal-caller in next year’s class. Scratch that theory off the list.
They have greatly improved their roster with an aggressive free agency approach that will likely take them out of the running for a top pick in the 2021 draft.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article241549341.html

Lerner Sun Sentinel: Miami Dolphins reportedly interested in XFL star receiver
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp--20200327-e45p6gaodrdwfg4dlsotisbuxm-story.html

MINNESOTA
Tomasson Twincities.com: Vikings re-sign Ameer Abdullah, agree to terms with Dakota Dozier
https://www.twincities.com/2020/03/27/vikings-re-sign-ameer-abdullah-agree-to-terms-with-dakota-dozier/amp/

NEW ENGLAND
Callahan Boston Herald: The Patriots’ offseason plan is coming into focus
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/27/the-patriots-offseason-plan-is-coming-into-focus/amp/

NEW ORLEANS
DeShazier Saints.com: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis pleasantly surprised by re-signing of David Onyemata, Andrus Peat
https://www.neworleanssaints.com/news/new-orleans-saints-gm-mickey-loomis-pleasantly-surprised-by-re-signing-of-david-

NEW YORK JETS
Costello NYP: How improved is Jets’ offensive line after ‘right’ free-agency plan
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/how-improved-is-jets-offensive-line-after-right-free-agency-plan/amp/

Costello NYP: Jets’ $2 million deal with free agent Marqui Christian falls apart
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/jets-2-million-deal-with-free-agent-marqui-christian-falls-apart/

PHILADELPHIA
Hayes Phil Inquirer: Howie Roseman leaves Carson Wentz hanging as he prays Eagles offense turns itself around
https://www.inquirer.com/sports/eagles-carson-wentz-howie-roseman-alshon-jeffery-philadelphia-20200327.html

I think the Eagles plan in the secondary is pretty straight forward.

Slay is the CB1 and follows the top WR. Maddox is CB2, Robey-Coleman is the nickel, Mills is Jenkins and McLeod is McLeod.

This whole exciting “hybrid” idea feels like a bit of a myth
Eliot Shorr-Parks
⁦‪@EliotShorrParks‬⁩

PITTSBURGH
Batko Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Analysis: Defensive line produces for Steelers, but now has a big hole to fill
http://shale.sites.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2020/03/27/steelers-defensive-line-javon-hargrave-replacement-2020-tyson-alualu-isaiah-buggs-chris-wormley/stories/202003270022

SAN FRANCISCO
Treash PFF: Why the San Francisco 49ers trade of DeForest Buckner to the Indianapolis Colts was a sensational move
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-why-the-san-francisco-49ers-trade-of-deforest-buckner-to-the-indianapolis-colts-was-a-sensational-move

SEATTLE
Clayton My Northwest: Ifedi struggled for the Seahawks, but it’s wrong to call him a bust
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/836121/clayton-ifedi-struggled-seahawks-wrong-to-call-him-bust/

Condotta Seattle Times: Analysis: Jadeveon Clowney watch continues for Seahawks. But there’s no apparent end in sight
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/analysis-the-jadeveon-clowney-watch-continues-with-no-apparent-end-in-immediate-sight/?

Bell News Tribune: Huge plus for Quinton Dunbar in his arrival as new Seahawks cornerback: he knows step-kick
https://amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article241532721.html

More Quinton Dunbar tape this morning. Ideal man/match CB. Understands Cov. 1/3 concepts. Big guy, who will occasionally get tripped up by quicker receivers. Does not give up on a rep. Outstanding recovery instincts. WASH's secondary was a disaster last season. Best yet to come
Doug Farrar
⁦‪@NFL_DougFarrar‬⁩

TAMPA BAY
Stroud TB Times: How the Bucs decided to cut ties with Jameis Winston
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2020/03/27/how-the-bucs-decided-to-cut-ties-with-jameis-winston/?

WASHINGTON
Fortier Washington Post: How free agency will influence the Redskins’ draft plans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/27/how-free-agency-will-influence-redskins-draft-plans/?

Colleges/Draft

Belson NYT: How the N.F.L. Draft Process Works From Home
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/sports/football/nfl-draft-coronavirus.amp.html

Miller B/R: Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Shock Trades That Could Dictate 2020 NFL Draft

“The Scout's Report
—As mock drafts begin to come together, many NFL scouts believe the New York Giants will select Clemson linebacker/safety Isaiah Simmons at No. 4 overall. One scout said: "They kept Nate Solder and added an OK right tackle in [Cameron] Fleming. I think they're set up to wait on a tackle."

—“Team offensive tackle rankings are all over the map. In talks with scouts over the last two weeks, you are hard-pressed to find a consensus for the top tackle spot. On top of that, there is little consensus on how the top four looks.
One top scout said: "There's an obvious group there—call it Tier 1—and you can rank them however you want. Then there's Tier 2, with Josh Jones and Austin Jackson, and even there you can't get a big agreement."

“The Big Board
1. EDGE Chase Young, Ohio State
2. QB Joe Burrow, LSU
3. CB Jeff Okudah, Ohio State
4. LB/S Isaiah Simmons, Clemson
5. WR Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
6. QB Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
7. OT Jedrick Wills Jr., Alabama
8. DL Derrick Brown, Auburn
9. EDGE K'Lavon Chaisson, LSU
10. DL Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina
11. OT Tristan Wirfs, Iowa...”

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883157-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-shock-trades-that-could-dictate-2020-nfl-draft

QB
I think that Eason is super super talented. Ball is electric off his shoulder-but-teams have to ask some tough question and he needs to answer them. With better coaching/plan-can he grasp this and minimize mistakes?
Dan Orlovsky
⁦‪@danorlovsky7‬⁩

WR
Edholm Yahoo Sports: 38. Colorado WR Laviska Shenault Jr.
6-foot-1, 227 pounds 
Yahoo Sports draft grade: 5.98
“TL;DR scouting report: Injuries mar his projection significantly. Otherwise Shenault is an unusual, game-changing playmaker when healthy
The skinny: Shenault was a 3-star Rivals recruit out of DeSoto (Texas) High School, helping the team to a 16-0 mark and the Class 6A Division II state title as a senior. He committed to the Buffaloes over options such as Alabama, LSU and other big programs.
As  a true freshman in 2017, Shenault had only seven catches in 12 games, but averaged 24 yards per catch and scored on his first college touch, returning a fumbled punt 58 yards against Texas State. The Buffaloes knew they had something interesting on their hands when Shenault was a standout at their spring game in 2018. That’s when he pulled this off:

In 2018, Shenault led all FBS wide receivers at 9.6 catches per game, totaling 1,011 receiving yards despite playing in only nine games (three missed because of foot and shoulder injuries). He also added five rushing TDs on a mere 17 runs.
Last season, Shenault missed spring practice following foot and shoulder surgeries and started the regular season slowly, especially after suffering a core muscle injury against Arizona State. He finished strong, totaling 764 yards receiving and 161 rushing with six total TDs in 11 games.
Shenault, who turns 22 in October, attended the NFL scouting combine but had his event cut short following his first 40-yard dash attempt (4.58 seconds), when he aggravated the core muscle injury. He underwent surgery to repair it in early March and is expected to be cleared for action in April or May.
Upside: Rare athlete with acceleration not typically seen in players with similar builds. Rocked up like a tailback but has the straight-line burst and sudden open-field movement skill of a receiver. Ridiculous power — has squatted more than 500 pounds and power cleaned 350. Tested in the 4.4-second range on the 40-yard dash when healthy.
Outstanding size-speed combination. Highly physical and competitive — enjoys running through people as much as he does running by them. Also elusive — can make would-be tacklers miss with hesitation and change of direction. Terrific ball skills — strong hands and competitive desire make him a 50-50 ball artist. Adjusts to off-target passes and can handle the heat (QB Steven Montez tended to throw with extra velocity at times). 
Want the full Shenault experience? Turn on pretty much any tape from 2018, especially the UCLA game. He did just about everything in that game. Count the white shirts bearing down on him — how did Shenault get this first down?

Could benefit from the “Deebo effect” — teams that missed out on Deebo Samuel could view Shenault as a similar type of do-it-all difference maker. Outstanding versatility — lined up wide, in the slot, as a true tailback, wildcat QB and even as a tight end in 2018 (see Colorado State, Nebraska games). 
Used on jet sweeps and end-arounds — great knack as a runner. Averaged 6.9 yards per carry past two seasons and earned first downs on 25 of his 39 rushes. “Where’s Waldo?” type of player. Could be tried more extensively as a kick returner — his one attempt in 2019 netted 54 yards.
Threatens all three levels of the defense. YAC beast who averaged more than 7 yards after the catch all three seasons and generated nearly 60 percent of his yards after the grab past two seasons.
Mentally and physically tough — has endured tragedy and battled through physical pain. Plays with warrior mentality and hate-to-lose outlook. Urgent runner who almost never goes down on first contact. Good ball security in his career — eight drops and two fumbles over three seasons.
Downside: Lengthy injury history. Has earned some “4” grades from NFL teams that chart health risks from 1 (no health concerns) to 5 (medical reject). Physical style appears to have taken its toll. Practice snaps and usage might have to be closely monitored.
Had several instances in 2019 when he’d come off the field after a hard tackle or sub in and out multiple times on a drive. Best tape comes from the 2018 season, even with a few impressive games down the stretch last season.
Small hands and only average arm length. Straight-line speed has been questioned, even with injury-addled 40-yard dash — has a second gear but might not have a third. More build-up speed than shoot-out-of-the-blocks burst. Plays a bit heavy and might need to slim down a tad. Change of direction skill isn’t maximized without ball in his hands. 
Developing route runner — still learning how to separate from press, even with good natural strength and physical hands. Not as effective last season working out of the slot. Inconsistent tracking deep balls. Must develop a deeper route tree. 
Doesn’t appear to be a prototypical No. 1 wide receiver. Bulk of his production was manufactured — nearly two-thirds of his catches were within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Not as effective separating at the top of his routes. DBs would sit on his routes, waiting for the short stuff.
Drops haven’t been a consistent worry but will begin running before completing the catch at times. Blocking efficiency fluctuated significantly — appeared more hesitant in 2019 amid injuries. Will wildly throw a shoulder at times instead of squaring up defender and getting into his pads. Limited special-teams experience since 2017. Coming out early might have stunted his development, even with injury risk.

Best-suited destination: The team that drafts Shenault must have a plan for him, from how to manage his workload to how to unleash and employ his rare gifts. In the hands of a creative play-caller, Shenault could be a mismatch piece. If he can buck the poor health of his past he has strong WR2 potential.
Among the teams that could be interested in Shenault’s services include the Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, Seattle Seahawks, Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles, Green Bay Packers, Kansas City Chiefs and New York Jets.
Did you know: His father, Laviska Shenault Sr., was killed (when Laviska Jr. was 10) as he attempted to switch from the driver’s seat to the passenger seat on the side of the road. Two cars struck him after Laviska Sr. tried to swap seats with his wife, Annie, who was not hit in the freak accident.
Laviska Jr. has honored his father by not cutting his dreadlocks since that day. In fact, because of the rules by his Texas high school’s basketball coach, Shenault was not allowed to play that sport.
He played football, of course, and it was a healthy distraction from a challenging childhood. Three years after the accident, Annie contracted West Nile virus from a mosquito bite, and it took her more than a year to walk properly again. After his father died, the family also lost its home.
Shenault Jr. persevered and turned himself into one of the best high-school players in his region, a fine college player and now an NFL prospect who could crack the first round. He said at the combine that his tough path has made him appreciate the potential payoff even more.
“My dad, I know he'd be proud,” he said. “It would mean the most to me because it wasn’t easy. I had a very long, bumpy road. I had to get everything the hard way, nothing came easy. And I had to put the time and the grind in. So, it would mean a lot to go first round.”
Shenault has many nicknames — among them "Viska," "Honcho" and "2 Live." To his family, Shenault often goes by “Junior.” It’s not hard to see why.
They said it: “I see myself being a star, honestly. I think I would be able to open up more space and just do things that the other receivers don’t do just because of my size and my ability.” 
— Shenault on his NFL forecast
Player comp: Imagine a mashup of Deebo Samuel and Jalen Hurd — minus the hand sizes — and that’s Shenault in a nutshell. The closest single NFL player we could think of is JuJu Smith-Schuster.
Expected draft range: Late first round to late second, with injury uncertainty being the critical factor for his landing spot.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-top-2020-nfl-draft-prospects-no-38-colorado-wr-laviska-shenault-jr-203336779.html

Colorado WR Laviska Shenault vs. #Washington...

• 10 touches — 117 total yards, 1 TD
• Fades, shallows, screens at WR
• Jet sweeps
• Wheel/swing out of the backfield
• Wildcat snaps
• Rushing carries (see below)

6-foot-1, 227
Matt Bowen
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Pflum BBV: 2020 NFL Draft prospect profile: KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State
https://www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2020/3/27/21195734/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-k-j-hamler-wr-penn-state-scouting-report-ny-giants

Watching USC WR Michael Pittman vs. Utah...

• 10 receptions, 232 yards, 1 TD
• 4 receptions of 25+ yards
• Quick game (speed out, slant, hitch)
• Works back to the ball on curl routes
• Verticals from the slot

6-foot-4, 223, 4.52 40
Matt Bowen
⁦‪@MattBowen41‬⁩

Most underrated WR in this draft class (been saying it for months) and that probably also makes him the most underrated player considering the class.
One NFL team is going to be ridiculously happy when they draft him.
Giants have much greater needs, but if he falls to No. 99?
Dan Schneier
⁦‪@DanSchneierNFL‬⁩

Besides the fact that they played at USC, I don't see anything similar about them as prospects.
Agholor was a YAC prospect. Pittman can rack up YAC, but he can do so much more.
Agholor was also just 6-0, 198, with 32 1/4 arms and 9 1/4 hands (per combine). Very diff. prospects
Dan Schneier
⁦‪@DanSchneierNFL

Love Claypool too but he’s going to go a bit higher I think. Also, I wouldn’t knock anyone for getting locked down by pride — who is a legit first rounder if not for the size discount. Best cornerback at the senior bowl week
Dan Schneier
⁦‪@DanSchneierNFL‬⁩

Latest I see Claypool going is the 2nd. Every other prospect with his weighted speed score in draft history has gone in the first 64 picks. He's further along as a WR (IMO) than Chark was (similar but worse weighted speed score) who went in Rd. 2.
Dan Schneier
⁦‪@DanSchneierNFL‬⁩

You're 100% right, but at the same time, it likely means there will be value at WR in Rds. 4 and 5 for the Giants where there won't be at other positions of greater need. Just something to consider.
Dan Schneier
⁦‪@DanSchneierNFL‬⁩
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Solak The Draft Network: WHEN WILL THE "BIG 4" BE OFF THE BOARD

“4) NEW YORK GIANTS: HIGH
The New York Giants don't need any position more desperately than they do tackle, which is saying something given the state of their linebacker and EDGE rooms. With a run-first mentality on offense and finally enough freedom to get out of the Nate Solder contract in 2021, the only chance they pass on a tackle here is if they think Isaiah Simmons is an elite player (very possible) or if Young remains on the board (not very possible).
6) LOS ANGELES CHARGERS: DECENT
The tackle likelihood on this pick boils down to how serious the Los Angeles Chargers are about riding with Tyrod Taylor in 2020 and even beyond. If the Chargers don't think he's their future and refuse to add a free-agent quarterback to fight for him in camp, they must grab a developmental QB and this would be the spot.
If they are okay letting the position sit for now then the clear big need on the roster remains at offensive tackle, even after their offensive line juggling during free agency and via trade. Bryan Bulaga is the starting right tackle, but Russell Okung is gone on the left and must be replaced. If this pick isn't a QB, it'll be a tackle.
8) ARIZONA CARDINALS: HIGH
The Arizona Cardinals look like a competing roster if you squint hard enough that you can't see the trenches — that's on both sides of the ball. D.J. Humphries was extended this offseason, but right tackle is a huge gap on a team that doesn't protect their bookends with tight end chips.
9) JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: LOW
This one depends on how the Jacksonville Jaguars feel about Cam Robinson, their starting left tackle who struggled last season as he returned to health from an ACL injury. Right tackle is locked down with Jawaan Taylor, the second-round pick from last year's draft, but if they want to kick Robinson inside to guard, they'll go tackle here.
10) CLEVELAND BROWNS: LOCKED
Lock this one in. Left tackle is the biggest remaining hole on the Cleveland Browns' depth chart. If they go any other direction besides tackle, I'll be shocked.
11) NEW YORK JETS: HIGH
The New York Jets have added a presumptive starter at left tackle in George Fant and saw nice returns from developmental third-round selection Chuma Edoga last season. Neither should be considered prohibitive to drafting a high-caliber offensive tackle. The Jets do have to worry about other big needs at wide receiver and EDGE, but I think the third- or even fourth-best offensive tackle on the board will be a better value than most receivers and EDGEs.
There's the floor for OT4: the 11th pick with the Jets. You can lock in the Browns taking one, and you have a great shot of the Giants, Cardinals and Jets taking one too. Add in the interest that the Chargers have, the wildcards that exist with potential trade ups and the outside shot of some other mismanaged teams and I'd guess we have four tackles off the board in the top 11.
I'm sure Tampa Bay (No. 14) and Denver (No. 15) will prevent the Big 4 from really bottoming out much further if we get there at all.”

- [ ] https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/andrew-thomas-tristan-wirfs-mekhi-becton-jedrick-wills-offensive-tackle-nfl-draft-2020

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Renner PFF: The top tackle-guard converts in the 2020 NFL draft class

“Of PFF’s 10 highest-graded guards from a season ago, half were offensive tackles their final year in college, and some others even dabbled there on occasion. If you’re looking for interior offensive line help in the coming draft, open your mind to some of these players who were out on the edge last season. 

ROUND 3
ISAIAH WILSON, GEORGIA 
At 6-foot-6, 350 pounds with 35 ½-inch arms, Wilson should get every shot to fail at tackle before kicking inside. Chances are, with his sluggish feet, he’ll have to be protected in pass pro against quicker rushers off the edge. When he gets his hands on guys at the snap, he ends reps immediately. But getting his hands on guys can be the problem. Plays like the one below (right tackle) are not uncommon on his tape, unfortunately.
Putting Wilson inside could protect him against quicks like that and let his natural power shine.
ROBERT HUNT, LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
Hunt is a similarly massive tackle whose talents look best-suited on the inside. He showed up at the Combine at a svelte 6-foot-5, 323 pounds with 33 ½-inch arms and 10 ¾-inch hands. Before Hunt was injured last season, he earned an 80.7 pass-blocking grade and 86.0 run-blocking grade for the Rajin’ Cajuns. A four-year starter, Hunt racked up 2,947 career snaps at Louisiana. His calling card is a unique combination of flexibility and raw power, as you can see below (right tackle):

He’s another player who could stay at tackle, but doesn’t quite have the quicks you’d want there. Those guys get moved to guard nine times out of 10 in the NFL.
ROUND 4
DANNY PINTER, BALL STATE
Pinter is a little different from most of the others on this list in that his move to guard is solely predicated on length and has nothing to do with movement skills. In fact, he tested out as one of the best athletes along the offensive line at the combine.
Pinter switched from tight end to offensive tackle only a couple of years ago and still retained some of those movement skills despite packing on the mass. He has no problem cutting off linebackers at the second level or leading out to the edge. Pinter’s play strength is a concern, but we’ve seen that increase dramatically even since 2018. 
TYRE PHILLIPS, MISSISSIPPI STATE
Phillips is a naturally massive human being at 6-foot-5, 331 pounds with 35 ⅛-inch arms and 10 ⅜-inch hands. He also moves like a massive human being with an 8.0-plus second 3-cone and 5.0-plus second shuttle at the combine (often seen as thresholds for tackle). In a phone booth, though, you don’t want any part of him. He doesn’t cede an inch in the pocket and is already an accomplished pass protector. Phillips earned a 78.2 pass-blocking grade this past season at left tackle. He was already kicked inside at the Senior Bowl practices and won eight of his 11 reps in the one-on-ones for the highest win rate of any guard in attendance. 
ROUND 5
CALVIN THROCKMORTON, OREGON
Throckmorton tested out bottom of the barrel athletically at the Combine and it looks like center — the position where athleticism has shown to be least correlated to success along the offensive line — will be his best position. The good news is that while he’s played 2,706 snaps at right tackle throughout his career, Throckmorton has also cross-trained at every single position along the offensive line, with 230 coming at center. Over his four years as a starter, Throckmorton earned a pass-blocking grade of 91.2 and a run-blocking grade of 80.2. It may not always be pretty, but Throckmorton gets the job done.”

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-the-top-tackle-guard-converts-in-the-2020-nfl-draft-class

Interior OL class is very average. The three guys I really like:
Cesar Ruiz Mich
Lloyd Cushenberry LSU
Robert Hunt Louisiana
Daniel Jeremiah
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Edge

Edholm Yahoo Sports: 39. Alabama EDGE Terrell Lewis
6-foot-5, 262 pounds 
Yahoo Sports draft grade: 5.98
TL;DR scouting report: “Uniquely built edge rusher with considerable injury history but fascinating upside
The skinny: A 5-star Rivals recruit (and top 20 nationally), Lewis — who changed his last name from Hall in 2017 — de-committed from Ohio State and pledged to Bama. He played as a true freshman and had one sack in 11 games.
Lewis played in only four games in 2017 after suffering an elbow injury in the opener against Florida State, but returned for the stretch run. His first career start was the national title game against Georgia, where he made seven tackles and notched a crucial sack in the overtime victory.
In 2018, Lewis suffered a torn ACL prior to the season and missed the entire year. He returned for the 2019 campaign and made 31 tackles (11.5 for losses), six sacks, two passes defended and one fumble recovery. Lewis was named to the coaches’ second-team all-SEC squad.
Lewis, who turns 22 in June, skipped Alabama’s bowl game and turned pro. He attended the Senior Bowl and NFL scouting combine, participating in only the vertical and broad jumps there.
Upside: Unusual dimensions — long wingspan (an absurd 83 3/8 inches), long (and strong) legs, decent bulk and nicely sculpted physique. Has room to add more bulk if needed. Jumping-drill numbers display his outstanding lower-body explosion. Long strider who can move and pivot better than some 230-pound linebackers. 
Basketball-type athleticism and explosion that suit well in the NFL. Rangy with sudden-movement ability. Seems to put at least one freaky move on almost every tape. Able to bend very well for a longer rusher. Pad level typically isn’t an issue — gets low and uncoils well. Disruptive potential to close down passing windows with long arms and good instincts.
This interception against LSU wasn’t all that impressive from a playmaking standpoint, as teammate Xavier McKinney gets credit for the sack and tipped pass that went into Lewis’ hands. However, he shows some nice poise here — instead of bearing down on Burrow, Lewis knows he has man coverage behind him and could get burned by a scramble. He also appears to anticipate the Texas route LSU loved to throw to Clyde Edwards-Helaire, so credit Lewis for having his good anticipatory skills rewarded with a gift-wrapped pick:

Pass-rush arsenal taking shape — executes nice long-arm move and has some sharp counters off of that. Also flashes a nice counter spin off his speed rush. Rides blockers’ momentum against them and can work back to the quarterback well. Uses a nice jab step to get tackles to overset followed by an inside counter. Gets skinny and works through cracks as interior rusher.
Fascinating versatility — rushed from the edge and as a 3-technique, manned the nose on occasion, played stack linebacker and even dropped into hook zones (see LSU game). Even walked out and covered the slot on occasion. Can work as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense or fit as an end in a 4-3. Should contribute readily on special teams, especially as a kick blocker.
Strong effort — motor usually revved up. Tested weekly against SEC competition plus in practice the past few years vs. Alabama’s high-end OL talent, including multiple first-round picks. Arrow pointing way up if he can stay healthy. Might be the second- or third-best pass rusher in this class behind Chase Young.
Downside: Lengthy injury history — missed entire 2018 season (ACL) and all but four games  in 2017 (elbow) — must be considered. Practice reps needed to be managed on weekly basis. NFL teams typically grade prospects’ medical concerns from 1 to 5 (or A to F), with a 5 being a medical reject; Lewis likely will earn some 3s from teams. 
Could use some more bulk to handle trench duty more readily. Appeared to play closer to 250 pounds last season and might have trouble keeping on more weight consistently. Incomplete testing spectrum at combine. Uses length to press out blockers but might need to strengthen upper body for that to be effective vs. NFL tackles. Will get caught peeking into backfield and loosen up his approach.
Wasn’t great in coverage at the Senior Bowl — duties likely will have to be limited in that aspect in the NFL. Instincts not yet honed — still learning how to sniff out screens and QB run game. Missed tackles (see LSU game) can be an issue. Plays out of control and can get his feet tangled in a hurry to make a play. Still unsure of himself when playing in space. 
Watch here against LSU when QB Joe Burrow goes through his progression and then drops his eyes to scramble, Lewis (No. 24) is flat-footed and doesn’t react quickly enough, missing out on a free shot at the Heisman Trophy winner:

Limited tape to scout — only 26 career games and fewer than 700 career snaps. Best games last season came against Duke, Texas A& M, Tennessee and Arkansas; his least-impressive games tended to come against some of the better teams on Bama’s schedule.
Appeared to throw Alabama coaching staff under the bus at the combine, questioning the play-calling and communication. Questioned by NFL scouts for why he skipped Alabama’s bowl game but played at the Senior Bowl a few weeks later. No known major character concerns, but teams have vetted his maturity — suspended for one quarter in 2019 season opener.
Best-suited destination: In a thinner class of complete edge rushers, Lewis should be a desired commodity despite his injury concerns. Although there’s some big projection required with his evaluation, there’s still too much talent to ignore, and he theoretically can fit in just about any type of defensive system.
Among the teams that could be potentially interested in Lewis’ services include the Seattle Seahawks, Baltimore Ravens, Atlanta Falcons, New York Giants, Detroit Lions, Houston Texans, Minnesota Vikings, Cincinnati Bengals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys, Arizona Cardinals and Buffalo Bills.
Did you know: Lewis told Yahoo Sports at the Senior Bowl that basketball was his second-best sport. “At one point, I thought it was my first,” Lewis said. “That was the sport I was mostly focused on at first, really until my junior year [of high school]. I wasn’t sure which route I’d go, but coaches kept telling me how good I could be in football. If I just focused on football, they said I could be great. It took me a while to see it, but then I did and they were right.”
They said it: “He looks like a heavyweight boxer. He’s got that reach, you know? Like Lennox Lewis or something. He’s different than the other rushers Nick [Saban] has had before. [Lewis] has some nice tools in his box. You wish he played more. I saw him twice this year, and he was pretty good both times. Not dominant, but you noticed him out there. I was trying to watch him and like 3-4 other guys, and he just found ways to stand out each time.” 
— NFC scouting director
Player comp: Montez Sweat is probably the closest recent comp, but Lewis might possess Aldon Smith/Chandler Jones upside if he can stay healthy and continue growing as a pass rusher.
Expected draft range: Late first to mid-second round.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-top-2020-nfl-draft-prospects-no-39-alabama-edge-terrell-lewis-150932834.html

LB
Solak The Draft Network: THE STRENGTH OF THIS LINEBACKER CLASS IS ON DAY 3
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/mykal-walker-logan-wilson-david-woodward-linebacker-2020-nfl-draft

CB
Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU:

• Pitbull mentality 100% of the time
• Effective press-man CB (+)
• LB-type of enthusiasm as a tackler
• A+ zone/route concept awareness
• Ball skills (++)
• Highest point ball attacker (+)
• Patient pedal/balance
Jordan Reid
⁦‪@JReidNFL‬⁩

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Southern Illinois LB/S Jeremy Chinn is going to land in 2nd round. Rare testing numbers and a very productive player on tape. Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up as first safety off the board.
Daniel Jeremiah
⁦‪@MoveTheSticks‬⁩

History

Giants Birthdays 3-28

Russell Davis DT W-SEA 2007 NYG 2007 3-28-1975

Jason Garrett QB FA-DAL 2000 NYG 2000 OC 2020 3-28-1966

Rosenblatt NJ.com: Stories from Jason Garrett’s time as a Giants QB and why 'Red’ is a perfect fit for Daniel Jones

“Remember that time Jason Garrett threw a pass for the Giants in a playoff game?
His teammates don’t.
“I’m not so sure he really played,” said Howard Cross, a former Giants tight end

Kerry Collins, the Giants’ quarterback in that game from 19 years ago, said: “Listen, Jason would be the first to tell you ... he probably wasn’t the most talented guy.”

Well, it happened. It was late in a 41-0 win over the Minnesota Vikings when Garrett relieved Collins and completed a four-yard pass as the Giants ran out the clock. A few weeks later, the Giants were in the Super Bowl, which they lost to the Baltimore Ravens.
By then, the pass was long forgotten.
“I remember that (Vikings) game,” said offensive lineman Glenn Parker, “but after we scored on three straight possessions, I don’t remember much.”
See, they remember him for his red hair — Tiki Barber used to call him “Red” — and for his never-ending positivity (yes, he clapped ... a lot) while he stayed in the Giants organization for four seasons, even though he never played a meaningful snap.

Garrett was a career backup in the NFL, most of it spent with the Cowboys, though his time with the Giants proved crucial for his coaching career. It led to the news on Friday that Garrett’s career would be coming full circle: coach Joe Judge picked him as the Giants’ offensive coordinator in a move that has received praise since it was announced.
It’s a different reaction than when he signed with the Giants in 2000. Then, his teammates didn’t know what to think about him. Cross saw a preppy redhead with a Princeton degree, and could not have foreseen his coaching future. At least, not at first.
“I didn’t really think Princeton guys could coach in football,” Cross said, chuckling. “I thought they’d get, like, hedge fund jobs or something.”
By the time Garrett left, he was Cross’ favorite teammate. Parker and Collins’, too. And many others.
Now, he’s back in East Rutherford, here to make Judge’s life easier, and to assist in the development of quarterback Daniel Jones.
That last part will be his most important job.
Ask his former Giants teammates and coaches — he’s up to the task.
To understand how Garrett got here, and why he might be the right coach to point Jones in the right direction, go back to his time as a quarterback with the Giants from 2000-2003.
“He was such a valuable asset,” Collins told NJ Advance Media. "Just his presence and the kind of teammate he was and how he was in the room, it was what really made him a valuable piece to the puzzle for us.

“Who better to have on your staff than a guy like Jason Garrett?”
Here are six things to know about Garrett from his time as a Giants quarterback, and why it makes him the perfect fit as Judge’s offensive coordinator ...
1. He’s spent a lot of time in Dallas, but he’s a Jersey kid at heart:
Jim Garrett, Jason’s father, was born in Rutherford and his first assistant coaching job in the NFL was with the Giants, where he was from 1970-73. That first year, Jim and Jane, Jason’s mother, bought a three-story house at Monmouth Beach with two whales carved on the side.
It was a summer getaway for Garrett growing up and on his journey through Princeton and to the NFL. Same for his seven siblings: Jim Jr., Jane, Jennifer, Jill, Janine, John and Judd.
The “Whale House”, as it was affectionately known, became a stomping ground for aspiring, and accomplished, football players, from nearby high schools and colleges, and sometimes NFL players came through. Sam Mills was cut after his rookie season with the Browns, and spent the following summer training with the Garrett and his family.

A couple years later, he was back in the NFL, and became a five-time Pro Bowl selection.
Garrett, born in Abington, Pa., would often invite Giants teammates over to the Whale House in the offseason, too.
This was where Garrett learned all about football from his father and brothers, where he trained to become an accomplished Princeton quarterback and 13-year NFL player. He made his way back to New Jersey late in his career for that four-season Giants stint, and now he’s back again in 2020 as the offensive coordinator.
2. He knows his place in the pecking order
Garrett didn’t join the Giants as a free agent in 2000 with any delusions of grandeur. He was 34 at the time and had only made nine starts — filling in for an injured Troy Aikman — in seven years with the Cowboys. The Giants already had Collins as their locked-in starting quarterback, and planned to keep it that way for the foreseeable future.

From the moment Garrett strapped on his helmet, until the moment he left in 2004, he always understood that he was there to support Collins during the week and on the sideline, and stay ready in case of emergency.
That emergency never came, but he always stayed prepared.
“He knew his role,” Parker said, “and he did his job.”
In 2001, the Giants drafted Jesse Palmer in the fourth round and pushed Garrett further down the depth chart.
He stuck around anyway.
With Garrett at his backup, Collins had three of the most productive seasons of his NFL career. Their partnership played a huge role in that.
Garrett was a mentor, even if he was only a few years older.
“It wasn’t: ‘You should’ve done this.’ There was none of that,” Collins told NJ Advance Media. “There was none of that. It was just: Hey, make completions. Just simple things, like taking what’s there. Just big-picture things that are so important to playing that position. He was just so good at keeping perspective on everything.”
As a Giants coach, Garrett, 53, will be approaching it from a similar point of view.

Judge has never been a head coach at any level, and he’s definitely never ran an offense. Garrett was the Cowboys’ coach for 10 years — winning four NFC East titles — and before that, was Dallas’ offensive coordinator for four years.
He’s the most experienced coach that Judge has hired thus far, though the Giants didn’t bring him in to be a babysitter. He’s part of Judge’s support system, to make his life easier.
Garrett desires another head coaching job, but he knows that won’t be in New York.
“Jason is not the kind of guy that’s going to overstep his boundaries or put his nose in places where it shouldn’t be,” Collins said. “But he will, in an unassuming manner, make Judge feel like he can go to him any time with anything — and he’s not going to turn around and try to stab him in his back.”
3. He’s known for his attention to detail
Garrett liked to way a particular style of Nike cleats when he played quarterback and, early in his Giants tenure, Garrett’s supply was running low, so he sought out the team’s equipment manager to make sure he didn’t run out.

“I’m ... particular about my shoes,” Garrett admitted in 2002.
Garrett wasn’t obsessive or compulsive, just detail-oriented. He wanted his shoes to be just right, just like he yearned to understand everything about the Giants playbook, scheme and general operation, inside and out.
That attention to detail translated into the film room and practice, where he was a valuable asset for the coaching staff, Collins and the rest of his teammates.
“A quarterback needs to be this way, but he was way over the top with the studying the game,” ex-Giants coach Jim Fassel told NJ Advance Media. “He wanted to know everything about the game, and how do you put a game plan together: How do you do this? How do you do that?
“He’s a very smart guy. He was always … maybe ahead a little bit and anticipating where I’m going to end up with the game plan. He was just on top of things. He was like a coach on the sideline. He was always thinking ahead of you. If you were going to ask him a question, he already had it in his head.”

4. He’s a natural leader
Sean Payton, then the Giants’ offensive coordinator, used to call upon a team leader on offense to stand in front of the room and make a speech the day before a game.
Garrett would stand up in front of the room, crack a “corny” joke — everyone would laugh, Parker said — and then spell out exactly what the Giants were going to have to do that week to win.
Parker played 12 years in the NFL and said the only person he encountered that had the ability to motivate a team like Garrett did was legendary Buffalo Bills coach Marv Levy.
Garrett "could speak in a way that everybody got it,” Parker said. “It’s a very rare talent … It was just off the cuff, funny, he was just a guy that you never saw him out of control, yet you never saw him so sure that you couldn’t go up and speak to him. That’s an incredible trait. He was very even-keeled, on and off the field. Everywhere you saw him, that’s who he was.
“He’s the best teammate I ever had.”
5. He’s learned about coaching, quarterbacks, and coaching quarterbacks from some of the best minds in the NFL

Garrett played behind Aikman and Collins. He learned from coaches like Fassel, Jimmy Johnson and Norv Turner, a renown quarterback guru.
He developed Tony Romo and Dak Prescott in Dallas, too. Romo made four Pro Bowls in his career, while Prescott has already been to two in four seasons and is on the verge of becoming one of the NFL’s highest-paid quarterbacks.
Garrett "understands the position as well as anybody in the league,” Collins said. “I just feel like, on the face of it, man, it just seems like an incredible fit.”
6. However long he’s here, he’ll help Daniel Jones. That’s all that really matters.
There was some skepticism when the Giants picked Jones sixth overall, which some viewed as too early for the Duke quarterback. The 22-year-old put that to rest as a rookie, at least for now, as he showed flashes of the sort of quarterback that can lead the Giants for a long time...

It will be largely on Garrett to help push Jones in the right direction.
Ask his old Giants teammates: He was built for this.
“To have a guy that’s not only won but been there as a quarterback, been there as a coordinator and a head coach,” Parker said, “to come back to him now and be like: here’s things we need to be doing and looking at.’ He’ll do it in such a way that’s not too intrusive or authoritative, and it’s going to be incredible for that young man.”
Collins thinks Garrett’s presence should pay immediate dividends for Jones.
“He just understands what it takes to be successful at that position,” Collins said. “He’s going to have such good perspective on everything, that Jones is going to benefit from that relationship immensely. I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t show great strides with Jason.”
“Man,” Collins continued. “I just feel like the Giants are really, really going to benefit from having him.”

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/01/stories-from-jason-garretts-time-as-a-giants-quarterback-in-early-2000s-and-why-hes-a-perfect-fit-for-daniel-jones.html

Jerry Hillebrand MLB/LLB D1-Colorado 1962 NYG IR 1962 NYG 1963-1966 3-28-1940

University of Colorado HOF: “An Associated Press and Football Writers Association of America/ Look All-American as a senior in 1961 (second-team by NEA, third-team by AFCA, The Sporting News) ... A two-time All-Big Eight Conference first-team performer (1960-61). Recorded the fifth 100-yard receiving game in school history, catching four passes for 137 yards and a score against Arizona in 1960; it set the CU single game mark for yards at by the time. In addition to being a great blocker and excellent receiver on offense, he was a tough defensive end and a fine placekicker (he was known for his great hands and good speed, while being almost unblockable on defense) ... As a kicker, he booted 54-yard field goal against Oklahoma State in 1961, the longest in school history at the time and the longest in the nation that season (he scored 29 points overall as a kicker). His 696 career receiving yards at the time of his graduation was a school record, one that would hold for seven more seasons. An honorable mention member on CU’s All-Century team. First-round draft pick by the N.Y. Giants in the 1962 National Football League draft (13th overall; selected as an outside linebacker). Played nine years in the NFL for three teams, the Giants (1962-66), St. Louis Cardinals (1967) and Pittsburgh (1968-70). He played in 99 career NFL career games, making 14 interceptions and scoring three touchdowns ... Also a good basketball player, but CU’s coach at the time, Sox Walseth, couldn’t convince him to join the team.”

Hillebrand’s 5 interceptions in 1963 stood as a high by a NYG LB until Alec Ogletree matched that number two seasons ago. What’s remarkable is not only the number, but the fact that Hillebrand’s first interception didn’t occur until 11-10-63 vs the Eagles in game 9 of a 14 game season. He had one the next week vs the 49ers, and then he had two against Dallas on 12-01-1963. His athletic, batted in the air and caught interception for a TD opened the scoring in that game.
His final interception was the next week against Washington for a total of 5 interceptions over a 4 game stretch.

Serby NYP: Here’s the bar for becoming worst team in Giants history (11-18-2017)

“Jerry Hillebrand, the Giants’ first-round pick out of Colorado in 1962, was a linebacker on The Worst Team In Giants History (TWTIGH). I asked him whether there were playoff expectations when that 1966 season began.
“With the different personnel that we had, we were just ready to go one game at a time and win as many as we can,” Hillebrand told The Post. “You’re not even thinking of playoffs or anything like that. You’re just trying to get the team together and mold into a good defensive unit or offensive unit, and then win as many games as you can.”

Cornell’s 5-foot-11 Gary Wood was the quarterback, Earl Morrall the backup. Wood threw six touchdown passes and 13 interceptions.
“I think he was what, 5-9 or 5-10, 190 pounds or so,” Hillebrand said. “He’s a good athlete, you know, but I don’t think he was a pro quarterback.”
Sherman had traded Huff and defensive tackle Dick Modzelewski two years earlier. Defensive end Andy Robustelli retired in 1964. Quarterback Y.A. Tittle was 38 when he retired in 1964. Defensive back Erich Barnes was traded after the 1964 season.
“When they traded Huff, I went into the middle,” Hillebrand said. “Heck, I had new defensive tackles practically every game it seemed like. So that was going from a steady defense that you had that Robustelli ran to losing everybody and then trying to put it all together again.”

TWTIGH opened the season with a 34-34 tie with the Steelers and edged the Redskins 13-10 in Week 6 for their lone victory. Sonny Jurgensen was intercepted by Henry Carr and Larry Vargo. TWTIGH overcame a 10-0 deficit and won on a 29-yard fourth-quarter TD pass from Morrall to Aaron Thomas.

It was their last and only hurrah.
“When you start losing like that, and everything you try sort of crumbles in front of you,” Hillebrand said. “It was really tough.”
He remembers Giants fans fondly. “When I was there, people would leave their season tickets in their will, they were so strong,” Hillebrand said. “The fans were always behind us. That’s too bad they’re not doing that now. It’s a changing of the guard, I’ll tell ya. Fans are fickle. They’ll jump in a hurry anymore.”
The 1966 season was Hillebrand’s fourth and final as a Giant. He played one year with the Cardinals and three with the Steelers. He follows the Giants from his Davenport, Iowa, home and roots for them.
What message would he give to these 2017 Giants to try to avoid becoming The Worst Team In Giants History?
“Just do the best you can,” Hillebrand said. “Try hard. That’s the only thing I can tell em.”
Hillebrand was asked if any part of him wants them to be The Worst Team In Giants History so he is no longer part of TWTIGH. He paused and said with a laugh: “I hope we keep our record.”

https://nypost.com/2017/11/18/heres-the-bar-for-becoming-worst-team-in-giants-history/amp/

1962 Giants Profile

JERRY HILLEBRAND
Linebacker
No. 87
Colorado
"The New York Giants are looking to this young rookie for a real pro performance in 1962. Chances are, Yankee Stadium fans will be cheering Jerry as he boots field goals and extra points in assembly line fashion. He's a strong, fast runner, too."

-1962 Topps No. 113

1963 Giants Linebacker Profiles

"Sam Huff may or not play dirty but he usually plays well. Jerry Hillebrand, a bust in '62, is ready to show'em.
Like wine, Tom Scott gains from aging. Bill Winter did well as a rookie regular. Mickey Walker's all football but may wait five years to make first string.
Rating: Good"

-Harold Rosenthal, All-Pro 1963 Football

1964 Giants Profile

Middle Linebacker
No. 87
Colorado
"Blueprinted as the new Giant middle linebacker, Jerry Hillebrand will be on a big spot in 1964 - he'll be trying to take over the job held by the traded Sam Huff. Last season Hillebrand developed spectacularly as an outside linebacker.
Born March 28, 1940, he was an All-America end at Colorado, prompting the Giants to make him their No. 1 draft choice in 1962. He spent his first year on the taxi squad before emerging as a regular in 1963. Only 24, he looms as a Giant hero for another decade."

-Dave Anderson, Pro Football Handbook 1964

"Jerry Hillebrand now knows the price to be paid before a job can be won as a pro. An All-American end at Colorado, he failed to make the roster as a '62 rookie and No. 1 draft pick but was carried as a member of the taxi squad.
Came '63 and he suddenly found an opening when linebacker Bill Winter was injured. Given an opportunity, Jerry was a revelation and his brisk form of tackling led his coach to remark that he 'hits beautifully.'
He admits to studying his playbook 'two-three hours every night.' "

-Don Schiffer, Pro Football 1964

"Preparing to step into a mighty big pair of shoes - those worn by the ever-popular Sam Huff - as middle linebacker is Hillebrand. But the Giants' coaching staff feels that Jerry has the size, speed and ability to take over this key defensive spot. In his rookie campaign, Jerry showed his mettle at the left linebacking position, replacing the injured Bill Winter.
Hillebrand was the club's top pick in the 1962 draft following an outstanding grid career at Colorado, gaining All-America honors in 1961. He failed, however, to make the regular squad after trying out at both offensive and defensive end, and was carried on the Giants' taxi squad.
Hillebrand once booted a 54-yard field goal for Colorado."

-Complete Sports 1964 New York Giants

1965 Giants Profile

JERRY HILLEBRAND
Linebacker
No. 87
Colorado
"Jerry was the Giants' No. 1 pick in 1962. He was inactive all that season but was named New York's Rookie of the Year the next season.
He's big, fast and strong."

-1965 Philadelphia No. 117

1966 Giants Profile

“JERRY HILLEBRAND
Linebacker
No. 87
Colorado
"For most of his three seasons with the Giants, Jerry Hillebrand wandered around like a displaced person. But he finally found a home for himself at middle linebacker last year, and he's going to be hard to move out now.
He was an end when the Giants made him their No. 1 draft pick for 1962. He spent a year on the taxi squad, then made the club as a corner linebacker. He was all set to replace Sam Huff at middle linebacker in '64 when a knee injury sidelined him for most of the year. He got his shot again last season when Lou Slaby was hurt.
At 6-3 and 240 pounds, Jerry rates as the strongest linebacker in the league."

Jack Zanger, Pro Football 1966

"Jerry was picked in the first round by the Giants in 1962 and has developed into a fine linebacker, playing both the middle and corner positions.
He had two interceptions in 1965 and scored a touchdown. This season he may do the placekicking, too."

-1966 Philadelphia No. 138

In Memoriam

Tillie Voss LE FA-DET 1926 NYG 1926 Born 3-28-1897 Died 12-14-1975

Today in Pro Football History
11-14-1926: Giants Edge Duluth & Nevers on Blocked Extra Point

“The New York Giants, in their second year of existence in the NFL, had a 4-3-1 record as they hosted the Duluth Eskimos on November 11, 1926. Coached by Joe Alexander, a physician as well as player-coach, the Giants were struggling in competition with the New York Yankees of the new American Football League (the first to be known by that name) that included star HB Red Grange on the roster. While they had lost several players, as well as their first head coach, to the new circuit, New York had a good team that included FB Jack McBride, TB Hinkey Haines (pictured above), and promising tackle Steve Owen. While they had yet to give up more than seven points in a game, they had been shut out three straight times in the early going.

Duluth had been in the league two years longer than the Giants, having started out as an independent club before joining the NFL. The Eskimos were coached by owner Dewey Scanlon and played almost exclusively on the road, banking on the notoriety of rookie FB Ernie Nevers (pictured below), an All-American out of Stanford with tremendous all-around ability and ferocious intensity on the field. Despite utilizing a small roster of only 13 players, the Iron Men of the North arrived in New York with a solid 4-1-2 record and promised to provide a major test for the Giants.

There were 5000 fans for a Thursday game at the Polo Grounds in 20 degree weather. The Giants received the opening kickoff and drove effectively, with Jack McBride handling most of the ball carrying. McBride finished off the series with a dive into the end zone and also added the extra point.

Duluth responded with an equally impressive drive. The big play was a pass from Ernie Nevers to back Cobb Rooney that gained 40 yards. Nevers capped the series with a two-yard touchdown run and kicked the point after to tie the score at 7-7.

After the two scoring drives, the teams settled into a defensive struggle for the remainder of the first half. In the third quarter, the Giants went back on top as Hinkey Haines ran for a 25-yard TD. McBride again successfully converted to make it a 14-7 game.

That was the case as the contest moved into the fourth quarter. With time running out and the ball at their 20, the Eskimos advanced down the field. Nevers carried most of the load and accounted for six first downs along the way. He scored his second touchdown, but his try for the extra point was blocked by tackle Tilly Voss. The Giants held on to win by a final score of 14-13.”

https://fs64sports.blogspot.com/2014/11/1926-giants-edge-duluth-nevers-on.html

Pro Basketball Encyclopedia: “Walter ‘Tillie’ Voss ranks as one of the greatest athletes in the history of Detroit, Michigan. After coming to prominence as a schoolboy star, he attended the University of Detroit where he played football, basketball, baseball and was also a member of the track team. Throughout the 1920’s, Voss played both professional football and basketball.”
That Philly NFC East FA article is a rough read.  
The_Boss : 3/28/2020 9:28 am : link
And, naturally, it doesn’t paint Dave in a good light. Having had gone to school down there, I speak regularly with buddies who happen to be Eagle fans. I’ve been told by a few that as long as DG is shaping this roster, they’re not concerned with the NYG being anything more than 2 lock W’s every year. I’m sure the sentiment is the same in Dallas.
Boss ...  
Spider56 : 3/28/2020 10:08 am : link
I think DG has been mainly drafting and signing players that his coaches have asked for ... His huge mistake was hiring Shurmur, who in turn hired a bunch of nitwits. Hopefully JJ and this staff are much better ‘judges’ of talent and DG will again get them who they think can make the team successful. PS, I always thought the US should trade Philly to North Korea for a city to be named later.
I know Philly fans and one thing is true  
George from PA : 3/28/2020 12:46 pm : link
They are a bunch of morons to be totally disregarded
Jimmy Kempski may be a Philly guy, but he knows his stuff.  
Klaatu : 3/28/2020 4:12 pm : link
He's sharper than most of the Giants beat writers, and his opinions rarely contain any bias or preconceived notions.

He's a straight-shooter, and in this case he's dead on.
RE: Jimmy Kempski may be a Philly guy, but he knows his stuff.  
section125 : 3/28/2020 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14852428 Klaatu said:
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He's sharper than most of the Giants beat writers, and his opinions rarely contain any bias or preconceived notions.

He's a straight-shooter, and in this case he's dead on.


Some is good and some is bias bullshit. But as usual if you hate DG, the article is great....
RE: RE: Jimmy Kempski may be a Philly guy, but he knows his stuff.  
Klaatu : 3/28/2020 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14852470 section125 said:
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In comment 14852428 Klaatu said:


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He's sharper than most of the Giants beat writers, and his opinions rarely contain any bias or preconceived notions.

He's a straight-shooter, and in this case he's dead on.



Some is good and some is bias bullshit. But as usual if you hate DG, the article is great....


Why does it have to be hate? Why can't it be an honest evaluation of his job performance that finds it lacking?

Can you refute anything that Kempski wrote without resorting to invective?
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