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HERBSTREIT: I'LL BE "SHOCKED" IF THERE IS NCAA OR NFL

BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/28/2020 10:02 am
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"I'll be shocked if we have NFL football this fall, if we have college football. I'll be so surprised if that happens," Herbstreit recently said according to TMZ Sports.

The ESPN analyst further explained his opinion is based on the fact we likely won't have a vaccine for the coronavirus for some time. When you take that into consideration, it may be tough for football to continue until that time arrives.

"Just because from what I understand, people that I listen to, you're 12 to 18 months from a vaccine," Herbstreit continued. "I don't know how you let these guys go into locker rooms and let stadiums be filled up and how you can play ball. I just don't know how you can do it with the optics of it."

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I disagree with him  
GiantsFan84 : 3/28/2020 10:07 am : link
If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start
I wouldn't be shocked  
Milton : 3/28/2020 10:14 am : link
It's just too hard to predict anything right now. We are in uncharted territory. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 18 months for there to be a vaccine. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a vaccine available before Labor Day or earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL returned despite there being no vaccine.

Social distancing buys us time. If the time is used wisely to improve the country's ability to deal with the virus on a variety of levels and in a variety of ways (things that "flatten the curve" and greatly diminish the mortality and hospitalization rates), I think people will feel it's safe again to attend to fly, dine at restaurants, go to the movies, and attend sporting events. That's what I think will happen, but I can't pinpoint a timeframe.
He’s Right  
bronxct1 : 3/28/2020 10:18 am : link
Nobody wants to think about it but with the expected second wave of this in the fall the chances of having sports in 2020 are slim.
RE: He’s Right  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2020 10:20 am : link
In comment 14852127 bronxct1 said:
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Nobody wants to think about it but with the expected second wave of this in the fall the chances of having sports in 2020 are slim.


Could be
I don’t disagree  
The_Boss : 3/28/2020 10:23 am : link
Even if this thing levels off considerably in the summer heat, some doctors think it might ramp back up in mid September. Forget about the fans for a minute. Like it was said above, how about the typical power conference daily locker room? 80 plus scholarship players, coaches, support staff, trainers, etc 6 days a week? Same with the nfl on a smaller scale.
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Giantsfan79 : 3/28/2020 10:40 am : link
I like going to live sport events but I've seriously been thinking about whether I'd go to a stadium with tens of thousands of other people anymore once things start back up.

Even when sports comes back are the fans going to or has it forever changed? Anyone else having thoughts in this vein.
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Milton : 3/28/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14852140 Giantsfan79 said:
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I like going to live sport events but I've seriously been thinking about whether I'd go to a stadium with tens of thousands of other people anymore once things start back up.

Even when sports comes back are the fans going to or has it forever changed? Anyone else having thoughts in this vein.
I think that's a question on everyone's mind. What will the new "normal" be once there is a vaccine and the coronavirus is in our rearview mirror? Not just sporting events, but dining out, flying, movies, concerts, and so much more. Home schooling your kid is going to be a much more attractive options to families across America. What will that mean to public education?
Right now......  
Reb8thVA : 3/28/2020 10:54 am : link
I think there are way too many health, economic, political, and social drivers that will go into these decisions, that it is way to early for anyone, especially those who have no role in these decisions, to predict what will happen.

Let’s just operate from the assumption that things will go ahead as they usually do it will make dealing with the quarantine a little less stressful.
RE: I disagree with him  
M.S. : 3/28/2020 10:58 am : link
In comment 14852121 GiantsFan84 said:
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If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start

In my (uninformed) opinion, I disagree. The country is not doing things right, save in isolated places, and the Coronavirus makes no distinction between isolated and non-isolated places. I doubt there will be any organized sports whatsoever in 2020.
Everyone needs to pump the brakes and let this marinate for a while  
BlueHurricane : 3/28/2020 11:14 am : link
Lets see what happens over the course of the next 4/5 weeks. Making decisions or predictions based on something we have so little information about is senseless.
I also think he’s right...  
Chris in Philly : 3/28/2020 11:20 am : link
and the main reason I can’t get too worked up over signing guys to one year deals. I do think it will matter.
There will be an NFL season.  
trueblueinpw : 3/28/2020 11:27 am : link
There may not be fans but one way or another there will be an NFL season. If you take the fans out of the stadium, it’s not impossible to think you can test everyone involved in the game to a reasonable level of safety. Not saying they need to remove the fans, but it’s within the realm of possibility.

People need to stop with this doomsday stuff. This is a serious public health crisis but it’s not the Black Plague. We’re gonna make it through this difficult time.
And on top of what every one said...  
BillKo : 3/28/2020 11:54 am : link
...we won't expect a vaccine until, when....January 2021?

This thing apparently will make a second round in the fall/winter.

You can easily make a case there won't be anything in 2020.
a worthwhile 13 minutes of everyone's life  
BlueHurricane : 3/28/2020 11:59 am : link
When this guy tells me 2020 is cancelled Ill listen.
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In terms of being selfish  
sec308 : 3/28/2020 12:32 pm : link
Does this mean we get the 4th pick in next years draft as well?
I like Herbstreit  
joeinpa : 3/28/2020 12:33 pm : link
But him and anyone else not in position to know should refrain from expressing opinions such as this.

Dealing with the facts of this crisis is difficult enough for many. Negative speculation does nothing but to add more gloom. It s not like we need to prepare for his prediction

If it happens we ll deal with it then.

How about this, I m as qualified to speak on this virus as Herbstreit:

I think there s a chance the NBA might start up by May, and MLB by June.
By July using China as a que, we should be on the down side of this.

Who knows what a going to happen But I d rather hear some positive speculation, not going to make me take the dam thing any less seriously.

It s cold, dark and raining here in. N. E. PA. I m cranky. Difficult enough to be in social isolation when the weathers nice.

But seriously other than the medical people who believe certain info is vital
for us to know, I ve had my fill of the gloom and doomers.

As Eric stated recently, thank God those people didn’t have to fight WWII.
RE: I disagree with him  
Saquads26 : 3/28/2020 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14852121 GiantsFan84 said:
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If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start


We’re not doing it right though so no chance.
RE: RE: I disagree with him  
Saquads26 : 3/28/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14852157 M.S. said:
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In comment 14852121 GiantsFan84 said:


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If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start


In my (uninformed) opinion, I disagree. The country is not doing things right, save in isolated places, and the Coronavirus makes no distinction between isolated and non-isolated places. I doubt there will be any organized sports whatsoever in 2020.


Exactly, I completely agree. We failed to act in a timely manner and are now in panic mode without the resources necessary. And people aren’t practicing social distancing enough. We failed.
Wasn't the spread of coronavirus in Italy tied to a soccer match?  
yatqb : 3/28/2020 12:56 pm : link
I seem to remember that. 80-100,000 people in one place is a great way to spread the virus.
Much different  
Dankbeerman : 3/28/2020 1:03 pm : link
for NFL to play then NCAA. NCAA is responsible for students saftey. Pros can sign off on the risks students wont be able too.
It's  
AcidTest : 3/28/2020 1:08 pm : link
too early to tell what will happen in the fall. We'll know more in two months. But yes, there is a realistic chance there won't be any more sports this year.
RE: In terms of being selfish  
The_Boss : 3/28/2020 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14852241 sec308 said:
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Does this mean we get the 4th pick in next years draft as well?


Can you imagine that scenario? If you’re Cincinnati, you could get Young at 1 this year then circle back and draft Trevor Lawrence 1 next April.
RE: Everyone needs to pump the brakes and let this marinate for a while  
M.S. : 3/28/2020 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14852166 BlueHurricane said:
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Lets see what happens over the course of the next 4/5 weeks. Making decisions or predictions based on something we have so little information about is senseless.

Based on the disaster that was the last 4/5 weeks, I do not have a good feeling about the next 4/5 weeks.
One thing is clear  
DCOrange : 3/28/2020 1:33 pm : link
He could be right or he could be wrong. Just like every other "expert" being quoted right now.

The media is falling over themselves to quote any "name" they can on something they know as much about as you and me. CNN had Sean Penn on to discuss his expert opinions on military solutions for crying out loud. The absurd coverage of this - which in my opinion is the majority of it - is doing nothing to help.

How many people are clogging up testing and doctors have no reason to be worried other than their local "news" stations scaring them to death? I bet it is at least 20% which hurts the 20% who legitimately need the tests.

I am not minimizing the virus or the threat but unless you are one of the top 100 global experts on this, "celebrities" should keep their thoughts to themselves whether its on the virus or when football may be played.
All I know is...  
Kevin_in_Pgh : 3/28/2020 1:37 pm : link
The longer I go without real sports, the closer I come to starting to watch eSports...
I think there will be sports  
MetsAreBack : 3/28/2020 1:42 pm : link
But we’re going to have to up our testing and security immensely over the next few months.

1. We need immunity / antibody testing across the country. I can’t tell you how many people in Ny I know that likely had this already but as non high risk segments were not tested. We are going to have to get comfortable that a good % of the country has developed immunity by the fall. My guess is we have by then

2. Somehow, legally - leagues are going to have to prohibit higher risk segments from attending sports events. I’m not sure how one executes this but you’re going to have to keep 75 year olds home for their own good

3. Temperature checks. It’s going to have to become a fact of life across sports venues and airports for a while. If you have a fever, you are denied entrance. obviously this means much longer wait times to get in to games. Is what it is.

.... there are probably other things to consider too, maybe crowd limits this sports year to say 5000 for arenas and 20000 for nfl stadiums, I don’t know... but at a minimum the above 3 minimum criteria I think would need to be effectively addressed before you can even consider starting up again
No one knows  
rocco8112 : 3/28/2020 2:02 pm : link
not even three weeks anyone mentioning that the pandemic would lead to lockdowns and other measures was deemed a fear mongering kook. No one can predict how this will go.

I hope we have Giants football and sports talk about again, but would it be that surprising if everything is cancelled this year?
Anyone who doesn’t think this  
Dave on the UWS : 3/28/2020 2:59 pm : link
Has fundamentally changed society and the world forever
is deluding themselves. Major historical events like this, have always changed the world. I would not be surprised if organized sports is never the same. People’s habits, priorities are going to change. Things like the internet, the advent of social media has caused society to become more isolated. This is going to magnify that exponentially.. Going into crowded places like a stadium that’s optional. Not sure I would ever do that again,
I wouldn't be shocked  
Torrag : 3/28/2020 3:01 pm : link
because no one has a clue what will happen.
many people have had it  
uther99 : 3/28/2020 3:09 pm : link
but not been confirmed. when the symptoms pass no reason to go to doctor
He’ s right based on current trends.  
81_Great_Dane : 3/28/2020 3:09 pm : link
However if a cheap effective treatment emerges, or a cheap prophylactic drug, maybe things resume for enough people to have football in the fall.

I still think a lot of people haven’t grasped what this event is and what it means. Somebody compared it to having a stock market crash, a depression, an epidemic, a war and a natural disaster all at the same time. Nothing resembling the old normal is going to come back for a long time. There will be a new normal but it is going to look completely different. Sports may be one of the last things to return.
RE: Anyone who doesn’t think this  
speedywheels : 3/28/2020 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14852371 Dave on the UWS said:
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Has fundamentally changed society and the world forever
is deluding themselves. Major historical events like this, have always changed the world. I would not be surprised if organized sports is never the same. People’s habits, priorities are going to change. Things like the internet, the advent of social media has caused society to become more isolated. This is going to magnify that exponentially.. Going into crowded places like a stadium that’s optional. Not sure I would ever do that again,


Disagree. If anything was going to change people's behaviors forever it was 9/11 and that didn't do it. Remember when people said they wouldn't go to sporting events, etc ever again because of security concerns? Yeah, look how that worked out.
Something is gonna have to give  
Tim in VA : 3/28/2020 3:40 pm : link
Every day the economy and businesses are shut down is another disaster building. in my opinion were going to have to live with this virus, open up shop, sooner rather than later. Having everything shut down through April alone...you just wait. Coronavirus is beans compared to what we're doing to ourselves.
RE: Anyone who doesn’t think this  
Ben in Tampa : 3/28/2020 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14852371 Dave on the UWS said:
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Has fundamentally changed society and the world forever
is deluding themselves. Major historical events like this, have always changed the world. I would not be surprised if organized sports is never the same. People’s habits, priorities are going to change. Things like the internet, the advent of social media has caused society to become more isolated. This is going to magnify that exponentially.. Going into crowded places like a stadium that’s optional. Not sure I would ever do that again,


Maybe, but you completely disregard the likely fact that survivors of the virus become immune. And while the current situation is grim and the healthcare system appears to be on the brink, it is still a fact the majority of those infected show only mild or no symptoms.

This is only anecdotal of course, but my entire personal network won't shut about how excited they are to go out to restaurants, bars, gatherings, etc again.

I don't think the world is getting more inward and paranoid, I think its actually the opposite.
RE: RE: I disagree with him  
VinegarPeppers : 3/28/2020 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14852260 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 14852121 GiantsFan84 said:


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If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start



We’re not doing it right though so no chance.



How the fuck do you know whether we’re “doing it right”? Sounds like a statement based on politics. Nobody has ever seen anything like this before in the USA and we will learn a lot along the way. We have nothing but science and doctors to help us through it.
RE: I disagree with him  
micky : 3/28/2020 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14852121 GiantsFan84 said:
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If the country does this right we should be up and running again by the end of May. That leaves plenty of time for football to start


This country doing things right? Lmao
Maybe we are over reacting or maybe not...  
Hot Rod in St Cloud : 3/28/2020 5:54 pm : link
Last year we had 80000 deaths from the flu in the U.S.A. I have to wonder if this was made more public, would we have instituted the same measures or should we be implementing restrictive measures for any flu epidemic?
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Medical ignorance compoundedby historical blindness, with 21st century  
plato : 3/28/2020 6:29 pm : link
arrogance produces comments/threads like this. We’ll have sports both college and pro beginning sooner than you think. COVID is probably seasonal effected, certainly age risk related, and people will decide that life is always carried on with risks.

Dealing with Asian immigration was a huge step, as was European travel, meds are probably here, and hysteria caused by politicos needs to be dealt a fatal blow.

I do feel sorry for my home city to be led by such ignorant and foolish politicos, but the public will grow tired of them, we will hopefully recognize that doctors and nurses have always risked their lives, and the we need to go forward.

Having taken care of critically patients throughout various epidemics “all” over the world, I actually can’t believe the misleading medical broadcasting and attention grabbing headlines. Whoever the guy whose quote started this thread needs to be disciplined as contributing to public disorder, if only it were possible,
Medical ignorance compoundedby historical blindness, with 21st century  
plato : 3/28/2020 6:30 pm : link
arrogance produces comments/threads like this. We’ll have sports both college and pro beginning sooner than you think. COVID is probably seasonal effected, certainly age risk related, and people will decide that life is always carried on with risks.

Dealing with Asian immigration was a huge step, as was European travel, meds are probably here, and hysteria caused by politicos needs to be dealt a fatal blow.

I do feel sorry for my home city to be led by such ignorant and foolish politicos, but the public will grow tired of them, we will hopefully recognize that doctors and nurses have always risked their lives, and the we need to go forward.

Having taken care of critically patients throughout various epidemics “all” over the world, I actually can’t believe the misleading medical broadcasting and attention grabbing headlines. Whoever the guy whose quote started this thread needs to be disciplined as contributing to public disorder, if only it were possible,
Medical ignorance compoundedby historical blindness, with 21st century  
plato : 3/28/2020 6:31 pm : link
arrogance produces comments/threads like this. We’ll have sports both college and pro beginning sooner than you think. COVID is probably seasonal effected, certainly age risk related, and people will decide that life is always carried on with risks.

Dealing with Asian immigration was a huge step, as was European travel, meds are probably here, and hysteria caused by politicos needs to be dealt a fatal blow.

I do feel sorry for my home city to be led by such ignorant and foolish politicos, but the public will grow tired of them, we will hopefully recognize that doctors and nurses have always risked their lives, and the we need to go forward.

Having taken care of critically patients throughout various epidemics “all” over the world, I actually can’t believe the misleading medical broadcasting and attention grabbing headlines. Whoever the guy whose quote started this thread needs to be disciplined as contributing to public disorder, if only it were possible,
RE: Medical ignorance compoundedby historical blindness, with 21st century  
OC2.0 : 3/28/2020 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14852527 plato said:
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arrogance produces comments/threads like this. We’ll have sports both college and pro beginning sooner than you think. COVID is probably seasonal effected, certainly age risk related, and people will decide that life is always carried on with risks.

Dealing with Asian immigration was a huge step, as was European travel, meds are probably here, and hysteria caused by politicos needs to be dealt a fatal blow.

I do feel sorry for my home city to be led by such ignorant and foolish politicos, but the public will grow tired of them, we will hopefully recognize that doctors and nurses have always risked their lives, and the we need to go forward.

Having taken care of critically patients throughout various epidemics “all” over the world, I actually can’t believe the misleading medical broadcasting and attention grabbing headlines. Whoever the guy whose quote started this thread needs to be disciplined as contributing to public disorder, if only it were possible,


Absolutely, well said
RE: I don’t disagree  
giantsFC : 3/28/2020 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14852132 The_Boss said:
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Even if this thing levels off considerably in the summer heat, some doctors think it might ramp back up in mid September. Forget about the fans for a minute. Like it was said above, how about the typical power conference daily locker room? 80 plus scholarship players, coaches, support staff, trainers, etc 6 days a week? Same with the nfl on a smaller scale.


This.
Football teams seem to be a bigger culprit for ailments running through locker rooms any many getting sick.

It could be a very bad idea to romo sports back up in August. At all,evils not just pro.
If something is double-posted,  
Mad Mike : 3/28/2020 9:15 pm : link
you know it has to be quality.
RE: If something is double-posted,  
BlueLou'sBack : 12:59 am : link
In comment 14852645 Mad Mike said:
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you know it has to be quality.


If someone writes in a smarmy tone with italics that's even moreso an assurance of quality, right?
My doctor told me  
Vanzetti : 1:51 am : link
Giants are taking Simmons at 4
If they have games..  
Giant John : 12:03 pm : link
I’m not going. This virus has been kicking our ass. I’m not going to help it kick mine.
RE: My doctor told me  
BigBlueShock : 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14852771 Vanzetti said:
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Giants are taking Simmons at 4

I’m not saying ha wrong, but doctors will tell you anything you want to hear while they have their finger crammed up your ass
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