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Draft this deep, trade down even for less than proper value?

cpgiants : 3/28/2020 1:45 pm
We always hear about that points chart for picks, but should we consider a few trade down scenarios even if we get back less value pick-wise than we should?

The idea would be just to get more picks in the deepest draft in memory.

My thinking is that that chart does not account for the depth of talent in a particular draft like this one.

I would just seek to load up on picks and maybe this would entice some partners to trade with us in this one....

It all depends on how the board plays out and who they like.  
bLiTz 2k : 3/28/2020 2:12 pm : link
Yes on paper this draft is deep but let's say you have 2-3 guys who are in a clear bracket above everyone else. Do you trade back just for the sake of it and take yourself out of contention of getting one of them? And for less than stellar value to boot?

I personally hope we trade back to 5 or 6, but I don't know how I would feel going back any further for mediocre value and then they miss out on their favorite OT and defensive player in the first.
No. You don't trade down for the mere sake....  
MOOPS : 3/28/2020 2:23 pm : link
of more picks of lesser valued players.
If your position guarantees a tier one player (on your draft board), you at least want to obtain a tier one position, plus additional value, in return.
For instance, pick 4 would guarantee us either Simmons or the best OT on our board. You go into the teens plus maybe a 2 and a 3, you drop out of tier one and lose a probable blue chipper while getting more players of more questionable talent. Very iffy.
You want maybe your third or fourth rated OT rather than your first?
I'd be shocked if Arizona didn't go OT at pick #8, and that should start the run on OTs.
Nothing is guaranteed, but the higher you draft, especially in round one, the better chance your pick will be successful.
Torrag : 3/28/2020 2:24 pm : link
Pay me or I take my guy. Players aren't created equal. You want to cut the line, so to speak, it comes with a cost. In fact history shows if you want to move up into the rare air of Top 5 talent you overpay the draft charts.
Peppers : 3/28/2020 4:18 pm : link
From what I've heard, don't expect a lot of movement in the top 10.. The Giants, if they back down from their demands, might be able to move out of 4, but no team is overpaying for that spot especially when Detroit wants to move back.

Odds are Miami gets Detroit's pick at 3. The Chargers may move up for Love but with the Colts trading their pick they really don't have any competition for him. I've seen some unrealistic returns from fans in trade down scenarios. IF NYG moves from 4 to 6 realistically they recoup an early 3rd and a pick next year.

There's also the possibility of a team moving up in front of the Lions (if they trade back to 5) for Okudah.
Peppers +1  
ryanmkeane : 3/28/2020 5:17 pm : link
...the demand might not be there and if we move back a few slots only to get a mid round pick...why not hold firm and take the better play at 4. For me, only way I’m trading back a few slots is if we get a 2nd round pick in 2020 OR a 1st in 2021. It really doesn’t make sense otherwise.
If a team in the top 10 absolutely  
ryanmkeane : 3/28/2020 5:18 pm : link
loved a QB, then they would trade a 2021 1st for him.
Yeah lets take less than fair value...  
EricJ : 3/28/2020 5:24 pm : link

Excellent point, CP  
Manny in CA : 3/28/2020 6:07 pm : link

All drafts are NOT created equal. In a deep draft the disparity from one tier to the next is not as acute.

The "devil is in the detail", for instance how do we compare a high performing LB (peer-wise) to a high performing CB ... QB etc.

In this draft, for example, there doesn't seem to be a big difference in the quality of the top four offensive tackles; the question - do any of these deserve to be picked in the top five ? I don't know.

The last offensive lineman, in recent memory that was a "no-brainer" was guard Quenton Nelson.
OC2.0 : 3/28/2020 7:06 pm : link
I know, wtf? The most important thing to realize is you can use that "value chart" for toilet paper, lol especially these days. Any trading is a sellers market, period. You don't get what you want you negotiate to a happy median. Guaranteed no warroom goes by a chart.
Saquads26 : 3/28/2020 7:08 pm : link
Not with regards to our 1st round pick  
montanagiant : 3/28/2020 7:26 pm : link
Anyone trading up with us is due to the fact that they want a QB, that actually is a premium move-p and should generate more than the point value of our #4 pick
Some positions  
Jay in Toronto : 3/28/2020 8:23 pm : link
TE and interior OL paper thin

Still, I hope we go down from 4 still within the top 10 where we ought to land a decent OL -- hopefully Thompson.
I’d opt for as many picks in the top 2 rounds as possible ...  
Spider56 : 3/29/2020 9:54 am : link
The pre draft assessments are crap shoots and the best players aren’t known until a year or 2 in the league ...In 2017, Jamal Adams, Mccaffrey, and Mahomes went at #6,8 and 10 ...
If Gettleman wants...  
GMen72 : 3/29/2020 1:53 pm : link
an Olineman, and can stay in the top 10, he should take the best deal available...even if it means only getting the LW 3rd and 5th back. If he wants to bolster the defense (Okudah or Simmons), he should take his guy or get the value of the pick in a trade. Falling in love with a certain OL (like DG tends to do) is stupid...especially when we're missing picks from an even dumber trade. DG needs to save his job in this draft IMO. If he takes an OL at 4, he should be fired on the spot.
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