This isn't my first birthday "stuck where I don't want to be: home" as I was in the Army and overseas a few times too with nowhere to go. LOL.
As for the Giants, I honestly believe given our holes that a trade down to #6 with SD is the most likely scenario IF a QB they want is there. I'd love for us to get their #1 and #2 and still get the BPA on our depth chart which is likely Okudah or Simmons, not an OL.
You can't go wrong when you take the BPA each and every time.
But my #1 concern going into this season is that we start:
Solder-Hernandez-Pulley-Zeitler-Fleming
While this is a "veteran" group and so forth the only above average player is Zeitler. The rest are below averag though Hernandez has the potential to be better than last year's very "so so" season.
As for OL, I do agree we will draft the BPA in round 2 for OL when the grades are lumped closely. However, I may go WR in round 2 cause there will be value there.
It is very difficult for rookies to step right in....
Do not sleep on the recent 270Lbs TEs additions coming in to help the OL
As to BPA it seems to me it is usually very convenient how often it is also a position of need.
It's also my wife's birthday. We were going to see the play Ain't Too Proud to Beg (about the Temptations) yesterday for her birthday. But that did not work out as Broadway plays are now closed.
The free-agent acquisitions of two blocking TEs might well be a hint where their preference lies even in a trade-down scenario. Ir is a decision made on what makes for the strongest team 2 yrs down the road vs. what would be best for the coming year. I believe they have already made that decision.
Realizing they are not taking an OT in the 1st round, it is too hard to project who will be available in the 2nd round. They won't know if they are going to take an OL or not in the 2nd round, so I think those blocking TEs are insurance against not getting an OT capable of starting. I guess this is what you might call "reading the tea leaves".
Agreed (this is stating to become an inconvenient habit).
I will say that BPA is good in theory but almost never absolutely happens in practice because there are other considerations to account for. Everyone knows that you could have a generational/future gold jacket punter as BPA and he wont be taken anywhere near the top of the draft.
It seems to me that what many people actually mean by BPA is more equivalent to "do not reach due to need".
"Generational talent" or not (and I'm sorry, but that's debatable), it was a pick made without any regard for positional value - ER vs. RB - or just how fungible the RB position has become in the modern game. Perhaps adding a premier pass-rusher instead of a running back two years ago would have made our defenses less atrocious for the past couple of years, and allowed us to move in different directions in subsequent drafts and free agency.
However, since DG decided to make two major investments of draft capital in a RB and a QB, to not make a similar investment in offensive linemen when you have no RT, no OC, and arguably the worst LT in the league strikes me as the height of incompetence.
As I said in another thread, passing on offensive linemen because you added a couple of "blocking" TE's (one good, one not so good at all), would be like making sure you have a good spare in your trunk instead of replacing your worn out tires when you have the chance. If your O-Line is so bad that you have to depend on a TE to make up for it's shortcomings, you're severely limiting what your offense can do.
The only way the Giants can guarantee that they draft their highest-graded OT is to take him with their first pick, the #4 pick. And they really need two. One plug-and-play and one developmental, along with a Center.
BPA does not exist in a vacuum. Was Daniel Jones the best player available in 2019? Hardly, but there were other factors to consider. Too bad DG didn't consider them in 2018.
The BPA Uber Alles crowd loves to bring up LT. Rarely do they ever bring up Carl Banks. Was Banks the BPA when the Giants drafted him #3 overall in 1984? A case can be made that he was not, that Bill Maas, taken two picks later was. But the Giants didn't need a DT, they needed a LB to play opposite LT and that's what they drafted.
Do we need a CB like Okudah (who starts over Baker, last year's #1 who we moved up to get) or an OT who may need time to develop and may never be more than average (Becton, Wirfs, Wills)? I take Okudah every time here.
Trading down for extra #2 with SD (#6) is a great scenario for us as we have so many holes.
I can wish there as a clear-cut OT to take at #4 but there isn't hence my reservations.
Have a healthy and happy birthday!
Have a healthy and happy birthday!
I'd be ecstatic if we took an OT who has 16+ quality starts for us as a rookie. That would be QB Jones prayer too.
This OL, as of today, could be Solder-Hernandez-Pulley-Zeitler-Fleming, well below average AGAIN and that would be a sin.
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and all I want for your birthday is a 1st Round OT. The good news is I think it's coming gift wrapped in a few weeks time. DG and Judge have it on order at Amazon.
torrag, if we do take an OT #1 my prayer is that we aren't reaching due to need. If we have a legit value board stick to it.
I can wish there as a clear-cut OT to take at #4 but there isn't hence my reservations.
There are 2 clear cut and they are Wills and Becton. Both are natural movers to play the position. There isn't clunkiness , tightness in their game more resembling a Guard.
Becton didn't have the coaching that the others did and is a little more raw but the coordination and feet are there. Wills has the entire intangibles/tangibles package. He is better than Ronnie Stanley was coming out. Ravens took him at 6 and haven't looked back.