Ok, not the athlete of the "big 4." Not going to be an elite LT do to limited lateral movement. But he is huge 6'6" 350 and according to Bob McGinn (quote below), there are scouts that think he can get by on the left side. Dominant run blocker who is smart in Pass Protect. Described as tough & nasty!
“He could play on the left side. He’s enormous. He’s just not as clean of a package as Thomas. Thomas is a cleaner kid. But there’s film of Wilson where he looks every bit as good as Thomas.”
Probably could start at RT as a rookie. Could fill in at LT if needed. If we take a defensive player at 4, a center at 36 and he is there at the end of round 3 - beginning of round 4???? Thoughts?
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It would be silly, but if the Giants spent their first 3 picks on offensive linemen I'd understand.
Love to see a guy like him and/or the top center top of round 2 depending on how many picks we have there.
1.Simmons
2.Isaiah Wilson
3.Best Center Left
4.Best FS Left
https://youtu.be/vv-FiE49gsA
He would be a brave experiment at LT and will struggle some at Right but good enough to start on Giants.
Tackles always go higher than you imagine.
^This. But I agree he has limited movement skills and lateral agility. He has some problems with edge rushers. I'm not sure he can play LT. He has film that shows at times he's as good as Thomas, but he's not nearly as polished in terms of his technique. He certainly has the length and size for a T. But he's probably a RT, and his best position may be G.
Georgia vs LSU (Wilson #79, Thomas #71)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MszTxrJxe8
Here you see Wilson smashing on Chaisson(#18) several times on both pass and run block but he loses two big ones, both inside spin moves(8:24 sack, 10:37 pressure). Thomas pretty much also throttles Chaisson on his blind side rushes except for a big outside dip and rip at 9:24 that's called incomplete but is right on the borderline sack/fumble.
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Call me stupid, but I’m taking my 10-12 year cornerstone LT at 4 and rolling the dice and see if I can get a pass rusher like Zack Baum at the top of the second, then taking a linebacker at 4 and a purely RT.
Center might be an organizational blindspot at the moment. Gettleman simply might feel they are okay at the position.
We don't just need to fill the position. We need to upgrade it. The guys currently on the roster aren't good enough. The guys you'd be looking at in the later rounds could help solve the problem as we replace Solder and improve the depth in the future.
They won't help now. You get them into camp and some might not even start now. Which is what is required.
If it was an issue of reaching for players I'd understand the argument. That isn't the case. It's the best OT class in many years. Personally I have two Top 6 ranked prospects at the position. Many of the draft pundits/outlets have the same rankings. That's close enough considering the absolute necessity of solving the problem.
Simmons has flaws. Okudah has flaws. They aren't better prospects than these guys.
Right now we can expect to draft a WR and C as well.
Wilson is well built and well proportioned. Watching Georgia you can't help but notice him. He is a beast. Now can he play Left Tackle? I don't know, but if we drafted him in the 3rd round I would be on board. We are focused on running the ball and we now have some Tight Ends who can help our Tackles on the edge.
I would love to do that. I’m not sure the Giants will but they might. Also depends on how you value thi years crop of centers.
Wilson is well built and well proportioned. Watching Georgia you can't help but notice him. He is a beast. Now can he play Left Tackle? I don't know, but if we drafted him in the 3rd round I would be on board. We are focused on running the ball and we now have some Tight Ends who can help our Tackles on the edge.
Not like they don’t need a RT too. 3rd round sounds reasonable. Zero depth on this team. They could draft an OL in every round as shitty and thin as the OL really is
If we went with two OTs & a Center on day one I would be very happy.
Solder & Fleming would be keep the kids honest and we'd be set on the O-line once and for all.
Wilson is well built and well proportioned. Watching Georgia you can't help but notice him. He is a beast. Now can he play Left Tackle? I don't know, but if we drafted him in the 3rd round I would be on board. We are focused on running the ball and we now have some Tight Ends who can help our Tackles on the edge.
Jerry was an offensive tackle at Ole Miss too, and while my comparison might not be spot on, it's not far off either. I think DJ Fluker is another comp, and to be fair, they weren't bad players, but they just ended up being big time tipping boys here(more so Jerry).
If we draft this guy in the 2nd or 3rd round, just be prepared for a guy who's going to struggle against quicker defenders on the outside.
Right now we can expect to draft a WR and C as well.
Also a really big fan of Josh Uche from Michigan. It's funny, I was listening to Moving The Chains, they were interviewing Wills, and he said his toughest competition was Uche, and that says something going against constant SEC competition.
Right now we can expect to draft a WR and C as well.
I'm not expecting either to last until our second pick. Perhaps Baun, but Gross Matos is going to get snatched up by a 4-3 team.
Right now we can expect to draft a WR and C as well.
My amateur opinion is no. There are no pass rushers in this draft. The known commodities (Baun and Gross Matos) will be gone in rd 1.
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do Edge prospects like Gross-Matos and Baun figure to early second rounders?
Right now we can expect to draft a WR and C as well.
Also a really big fan of Josh Uche from Michigan. It's funny, I was listening to Moving The Chains, they were interviewing Wills, and he said his toughest competition was Uche, and that says something going against constant SEC competition.
Uche is impressive.
I agree that Wilson would be best at OG. Too many moments where he gets beat badly, both in pass pro and run blocking.
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starting C. Can’t just focus on OT. Someone needs to snap the damn ball ( and it can’t be Pulley. He is depth only.
Center might be an organizational blindspot at the moment. Gettleman simply might feel they are okay at the position.
If he does, he should be fired today!
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starting C. Can’t just focus on OT. Someone needs to snap the damn ball ( and it can’t be Pulley. He is depth only.
Center might be an organizational blindspot at the moment. Gettleman simply might feel they are okay at the position.
I'm on board for an OT at #4 and a C at #36. If we can trade down and get a 2nd 1st rounder, so like down to #9 and #20 for example, then grab the OT and an Edge/LB at #20 (like Matos or Murray)