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How to Approach the Fact that We Can't Work Out Prospects

Anakim : 3/29/2020 12:24 pm
We're living in unprecedented times. Teams can't bring prospects in, get work them out, can't gauge them physically or psychologically. Because of this, I believe teams will be extra cautious when drafting (assuming the Draft goes ahead on April 23). Teams will be opting for "clean" prospects, both on and off the field, more than ever before. Of course agents will send out medical reports, but will that be enough for teams to spend a draft pick on that player?

Perhaps most affected will be those who weren't invited to the Combine. At least teams have medical history on Combine prospects, not to mention that teams had the chance to meet with some of the Combine prospects. Even still, the length and intensity of the top-30 prospect visits is way more beneficial than quick Combine or Pro Day meetings.

Some players who could potentially be pushed down because they couldn't meet and workout with teams include:


RB Zack Moss - Utah
WR Bryan Edwards - South Carolina
OT Lucas Niang - TCU
EDGE Terrell Lewis - Alabama
ILB Markus Bailey - Purdue
LB Willie Gay Jr. - Mississippi State - character
CB Bryce Hall - Virginia


And actually, maybe even Tua. Say Washington is in love with Tua and think he's a franchise QB and Haskins isn't. Given Tua's medical history and the inability to bring him in and work him out (essentially going off of a few minute video), Washington may opt for the 'safer' choice in Chase Young or Jeff Okudah.
Jim Nagy runs the Senior Bowl and  
YANKEE28 : 3/29/2020 12:50 pm : link
probably has the most solid contacts all 32 teams when we are talking about the draft. Nagy says he has spoken to the teams top people and believes the following will happen:

1) Less small-schoolers drafted without test numbers
2) Participants in BOTH all-star & Combine will get a boost because all boxes are checked
3) Players w/ makeup flags will likely fall
4) More seniors will be drafted
5) Savy agents representing small schoolers (with less drafted) have a chance to put their clients as UDFAs with the teams they believe are most likely to be a roster match

RE: Jim Nagy runs the Senior Bowl and  
Anakim : 3/29/2020 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14853086 YANKEE28 said:
Quote:
probably has the most solid contacts all 32 teams when we are talking about the draft. Nagy says he has spoken to the teams top people and believes the following will happen:

1) Less small-schoolers drafted without test numbers
2) Participants in BOTH all-star & Combine will get a boost because all boxes are checked
3) Players w/ makeup flags will likely fall
4) More seniors will be drafted
5) Savy agents representing small schoolers (with less drafted) have a chance to put their clients as UDFAs with the teams they believe are most likely to be a roster match


Gotta say, this is a good year to have 4 7th rounders in. Players will fall for precisely those reasons, which may or may not be rooted in something legitimate.
I really don't care that we can't work out a few prospects.  
Torrag : 3/29/2020 1:10 pm : link
It will be funny when teams have the best drafts ever with fewer mistakes because they are being forced to rely on watching football tapes. Which is what they should have been doing anyway.
Torrag  
Bill2 : 3/29/2020 1:26 pm : link
Imagine that?

And if they want to conduct blackboard exercises to test for "reading and quicks" that's easy to do via web connections
Bill, yep they can do everything else they'd normally do remotely  
Torrag : 3/29/2020 1:32 pm : link
Interviews, conversations, any kind of mental testing.

The scouts had the entire year to grade players. They have ALL the video.

What's the BFD right?
Torrag  
Bill2 : 3/29/2020 1:52 pm : link
I would think that UFDA's that were in the coaches network ( our guys are well networked and recent connections back into the colleges and the places they recruited) would have a small advantage in that knowing someone is better than not

I would think UFDA's within driving distance can be seen
I would think UFDA's within driving distance can be seen  
Torrag : 3/29/2020 1:55 pm : link
I don't think the league is allowing it. They've enforced a travel ban and closed facilities for all but essential personnel. I don't think the scouts are even allowed on the premises. They are doing everything via telecom. No person to person contact.

IF I read the league order correcytly which I think I have.
I think this whole crisis may  
DonnieD89 : 3/29/2020 5:27 pm : link
be an advantage for the Giants, given the coaching staff connections and urgency of whole staff being at the combine.
Might push us away from a Becton  
MeadowlandsMike : 3/29/2020 5:35 pm : link
As less familiarity within the ranks and he is a guy who needs more vetting.

It may push us towards guys who we have already established a strong grade on (Wirfs), or guys familiar to our coaching staff like we saw in FA (Wills with our RB coach), or guys who on tape show a very advanced game (also Wills )
Agreed, that NYG has a leg up  
SCGiantsFan : 3/29/2020 6:43 pm : link
on same players. We now have a number of coaches on the staff, direct from the college ranks. One would think they can provide a little extra bit of insight.They have been around these players for a few years or played against them.

Any little can help if a player falls. Those numerous 7th round pickets will be interesting to see who is drafted.
if your talk is true  
Giantsfan79 : 3/29/2020 10:08 pm : link
then perhaps we should judge DG by whom he picks as Mr. Irrelevant and how his career will compare to this year's UDFA class.
Still working in this angle?  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/30/2020 2:41 am : link
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Washington may opt for the 'safer' choice in Chase Young...



LOL
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