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OliverG84 : 3/30/2020 3:24 pm
Have nothing new Giants related for anyone but maybe some can give me some info on moving south - currently in central NJ.

Just to give some background - I would be able to work from home with my job, so work is not a huge issue & my wife works PT for doctor office.

We have a 3 year old girl so it would be us three moving down & we think it's time to make the move or think about it at least...Some of the cities we have thought about...
Charleston & Rock Hill, SC
Chapel Hill & Charlotte, SC
Clermont & Windermere, FL

Not opposed to other areas, we do not like the DMV area so really NC, SC, GA & FL. We are in our early/mid 30's, don't have much family in the south, some friends, but want something family oriented, nice/safer area, not really a big city but suburbs, things to do, place to eat/go out, etc.

If any have moved & loved it or hated it, let me know. We heard both sides from some friends. Oh and we would be looking to buy a nice, not big, newer home.

Thanks in advance!
I can vouch..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2020 3:34 pm : link
for the Charlotte and Rock Hill area.

Been here since 1994. Lived in Charlotte (Matthews) until 2003 and have lived in Fort Mill, SC since 2006. I've worked in Rock Hill since 2006 too. Living across the SC border has been a good experience for me and the family. If you have kids, the school district in Fort Mill is the best in SC, the taxes are lower and you don't have to deal with Charlotte traffic.

Rock Hill is getting better. The Panthers HQ is relocating there and they've added some really good restaurants and breweries in the past two years. I chose not to live in Rock Hill years ago, but it could be a decent choice to investigate now. Their home prices are lower than charlotte Metro and even lower than Fort Mill.
I'm a SC native  
lugnut : 3/30/2020 3:36 pm : link
FWIW. Difficult for me to recommend Charleston or Charlotte since they're both so big and sprawly. Rock Hill is a suburb of Charlotte, so it's either still "too much" or a good compromise -- I don't know. Chapel Hill is much loved by folks but I wonder of that whole Triangle area is now too big(?)

Seriously, check out Greenville, SC. If I had to move back, that's where I'd go. I remember seeing -- maybe even on this board -- that one Northeast company's transfers kicked and screamed about going there, then when it was time go back, they kicked and screamed about leaving. Low cost of living, relatively cultural, sports, near mountains and ATL.
look at  
Giantsfan79 : 3/30/2020 3:36 pm : link
Tennessee or Florida. coming from New Jersey those two no income tax states will grow on you quick.
What about Tenn?  
MarvelousMike : 3/30/2020 3:37 pm : link
I live in the NE corner, but that sounds too quiet for you looking at your choices. Might look at Nashville, Chattanooga, or Knoxville areas depending on what you want. No state income tax here. <smiles> Sales tax just below 10%. Weather is very moderate....little if any snow and some days in 90s depending where you live. Real estate up where I'm at can be $5k to $10k per acre if you want to build on it.
moved to Forsyth County GA (North GA)  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 3/30/2020 3:45 pm : link
10 years ago when the kids were tiny.

Forysth County offers a ton for kids not just in athletics but also academics. Taxes are still quite low (compared to NJ) and we love it down here.

You still get all 4 seasons but obviously winter is shorter. I coach youth baseball and love being bale to play 9 months a year.

My only complaint is traffic if you want o work in ATL. They still haven't quite figured it out.

I am 4 hours from the Atlantic, and 5.5 hours from the Gulf which is absolutely gorgeous!! Once you go to the Gulf you won't want to go back to the Atlantic.

The areas you are looking in NC and SC are also very good, we checked those areas out as well. The wife had a pick and choose GA.

Good Luck in your search.

Greeneville, SC  
MarvelousMike : 3/30/2020 3:45 pm : link
I am transplant from around Utica, NY, but went to grad school at Clemson. Greeneville, SC is a good choice as you are only a couple hours from Charlotte, Atlanta, Charleston, and mountains around Asheville, NC.
Down by Charleston, the humidity in the summer will wipe you out (4 years there in USN).
I would recommend Summerville  
jvm52106 : 3/30/2020 3:56 pm : link
SC with specific areas of Cane Bay and Nexton. We moved down here in 2014 from VT and love it! Tons of NE transplants here!
You might have a difficult time finding  
Beer Man : 3/30/2020 3:57 pm : link
Chapel Hill & Charlotte, SC. Just sayin! (8(0)
I liked WIndermere FL, its better than Clermont  
PatersonPlank : 3/30/2020 3:57 pm : link
I lived in the Orlando area for a few years and liked it. Windermere is right near Disney and Universal, so your kids will love it. We got the season pass and went all the time, we figured out what times the tourist would go back to their hotels, etc. It was our Six Flags. You're also less than an hour to each coast, Tampa/St Pete Melbourne. Fun to go see the Space stuff especially when they shoot rockets off (or they come back down). Daytona an hour away too. Orlando downtown is small, but nice and relatively clean for a small city. Downside is FL everywhere is very humid. You get used to it though
CARY = containment area for relocated Yankees .  
Spider56 : 3/30/2020 4:00 pm : link
Been here since 1993, before Money magazine put the place on the National map ... despite the hordes that have moved here since, I doubt there’s any better place than the triangle to raise a family.
Greenville SC is beautiful and has close proximity to the mountains but traffic can be a nightmare. Charlotte’s ok, but it’s a big city featuring NASCAR, the Panthers and the NBA.
With the triangle, many pick an area town based on college allegiance or political preference ... Do your research on Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary, Apex, Wake Forest; College sports rule and you have the NHL.
Cheers.
2 others have mentioned Greenville  
SLIM_ : 3/30/2020 4:09 pm : link
I'll be the third. Actually I live in Simpsonville which is the suburb of it. Moved down 4 years ago from Northern NJ.

Crazy cheap taxes and property values. Good place to raise family. Much nicer weather.

Downside is some of the services (Kid's activities) are just as costly as NJ and groceries are similar in cost.
RE: I liked WIndermere FL, its better than Clermont  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/30/2020 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14854358 PatersonPlank said:
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I lived in the Orlando area for a few years and liked it. Windermere is right near Disney and Universal, so your kids will love it. We got the season pass and went all the time, we figured out what times the tourist would go back to their hotels, etc. It was our Six Flags. You're also less than an hour to each coast, Tampa/St Pete Melbourne. Fun to go see the Space stuff especially when they shoot rockets off (or they come back down). Daytona an hour away too. Orlando downtown is small, but nice and relatively clean for a small city. Downside is FL everywhere is very humid. You get used to it though


This is why I'd suggest Tampa Bay. I have no idea how people live in the middle of Florida, it is unbearably humid. I feel like 6 months of the year sucks there as opposed to mid July to mid September. I couldn't live far away from the coasts, even if I didn't love the beach. Can't speak about the Orlando to east coast, but Orlando to Tampa Bay drive is miserable when other people are generally going.

I left work from Tampa at like 3:30 to see friends on the East and it fucking blew worse than any drive I've ever done. The roads are engineered by high school drop outs here in FLorida and aren't even close to made for the volume they get now.
OliverG84  
Bones : 3/30/2020 4:23 pm : link
I live 20 miles west of Charlotte. I live near Belmont NC which has Belmont Abbey College, is about 5 miles from Gaston Memorial Hospital and loads of job opportunities for your wife via the Caromont Medical system as well as others. The white water rafting complex is equally close. The school system is fairly good, and their are several good private schools in the area.

My daughter and several friends live in Rock Hill. It’s good as well, but it’s a bit congested for my taste. I used to live in Charlotte, but it’s not what it used to be. Good luck.
Oh,  
Bones : 3/30/2020 4:24 pm : link
I can get to the airport in 15 minutes.
RE: RE: I liked WIndermere FL, its better than Clermont  
PatersonPlank : 3/30/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14854381 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14854358 PatersonPlank said:


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I lived in the Orlando area for a few years and liked it. Windermere is right near Disney and Universal, so your kids will love it. We got the season pass and went all the time, we figured out what times the tourist would go back to their hotels, etc. It was our Six Flags. You're also less than an hour to each coast, Tampa/St Pete Melbourne. Fun to go see the Space stuff especially when they shoot rockets off (or they come back down). Daytona an hour away too. Orlando downtown is small, but nice and relatively clean for a small city. Downside is FL everywhere is very humid. You get used to it though



This is why I'd suggest Tampa Bay. I have no idea how people live in the middle of Florida, it is unbearably humid. I feel like 6 months of the year sucks there as opposed to mid July to mid September. I couldn't live far away from the coasts, even if I didn't love the beach. Can't speak about the Orlando to east coast, but Orlando to Tampa Bay drive is miserable when other people are generally going.

I left work from Tampa at like 3:30 to see friends on the East and it fucking blew worse than any drive I've ever done. The roads are engineered by high school drop outs here in FLorida and aren't even close to made for the volume they get now.


My mom lives in St Pete and really likes it. Obviously being close to Tampa gives you the sports teams, and you are right on the water.
If you're into boating  
allstarjim : 3/30/2020 4:37 pm : link
Or want to be into the boating lifestyle, Clermont is awesome.

I really like Clermont, people are friendly there, great town, and I actually like it's a little farther away from the craziness of Orlando.

Windermere also has boating, but the chain of lakes that Clermont offers just gives you more room to play. Also if you are into wine, Lakeridge Winery, probably the best winery in the state of Florida, is in Clermont, always a great visit. I particularly love their Port.
I live 30 miles west of Chapel Hill  
Gman11 : 3/30/2020 4:37 pm : link
Chapel Hill is a college town. Everything in that town is centered around the college. The property taxes are higher in Orange County than a lot of the other counties.

I'm in Burlington. 20 miles to the west is Greensboro. 50 miles east is Raleigh. 50 miles west is Winston Salem. 100 miles south is Charlotte. I get to live in a small town which is great for raising a family, but I'm driving distance of the bigger cities. It's ideal.
I have lived in Cocoa Beach, FL just over 5 years.  
jc in c-ville : 3/30/2020 4:40 pm : link
A most unique place that I'm still getting used to.

People look after one another, great k-12 schools in that area, highly regarded, quick exit ( it's a barrier island)to Orlando ( about 75 minutes to Disney) a huge port and a revived space program.

The last two were positives before this virus. How it will effect he port remains to be seen but the economy was/is currently very, very healthy.

Housing prices in CB are expensive. Even the older homes are selling for 6/700k but the housing market will most certainly be affected.

The negatives are there are literally no seasons. That get's to me. It sounds great to those suffering in the north ( I'm from Vestal, NY) but year after year it can be mental. It's hot. I work in Orlando ( most days) and I would NEVER live in central Florida. Holy shit it's fucking brutal.

So, you and your wife need to prioritize what you're looking for. If you enjoy the seasons, Florida is not the place for you.
Don’t move to Orlando or the Orlando area  
Ben in Tampa : 3/30/2020 5:19 pm : link
Just don’t do it
I live in Clermont.  
Fred-in-Florida : 3/30/2020 5:21 pm : link
I've been here for 15 years. It's grown and still growing by leaps and bounds. It's a nice town has everything you could ask for. Stores and shopping no need to travel. Most of the restaurants are franchise types not to many private ones. Can't comment on the schools since I'm retired but they're all new facilities and from I understand are one of the better school districts in Lake County. Basically a good place to bring up your kids.

Windermere is an upscale community. Has a brand new High school and is one of the better school districts in Orange County. The Real Estate values reflect it's upscaledness (wow is that a word!).

Yes the humidity is pretty bad in the summer from late May into October. I definitely recommend a pool.

We're not far from Windermere but also look into Winter Garden/Oakland which is in between us and Windermere.
Whatever you decide  
Fred-in-Florida : 3/30/2020 5:30 pm : link
Rent a place first before you buy!

That way for what ever reason you can take some time to look around. And if you don't like it a miss 'back home' your not locked in.

Real Estate is much cheaper here. harder to turn back without taking a loss.
Moving south?  
Stan in LA : 3/30/2020 5:47 pm : link
Southern California is the ONLY place to be.
Another recommendation for Upstate (refers to elevation) SC  
KeoweeFan : 3/30/2020 6:04 pm : link
(as contrasted to the "Low Country" on the coast.)
Lots of great suburbs surrounding Greenville (360 degrees).
As a start, Travelers Rest is now a fast growing suburb (BMW, Michelin etc) with good facilities, nice village and 20 minutes from Greenville which has great restaurants, music and OK "theater venues" to accommodate the national acts and Broadway touring productions. Look up the Swamp Rabbit Trail - fantastic for the family year round.

Further west if you like water, hiking (waterfalls) the area just west of Clemson has all that and is also growing. Two huge lakes (Keowee and Hartwell) still have relatively affordable waterfront living; and of course wooded "interior" lots. Our home is adjacent to a golf course.
We are also an hour away from the NC Blue Ridge Mountains (Asheville etc).
My last sentence should have read  
Fred-in-Florida : 3/30/2020 6:08 pm : link
And if you don't like it, and miss 'back home', you're not locked in.
RE: Don’t move to Orlando or the Orlando area  
John In CO : 3/30/2020 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14854443 Ben in Tampa said:
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Just don’t do it


I lived in Orlando for 25 years and esca....er...moved out of there 10 years ago for Colorado. Havent regretted that move a single day since. Someone mentioned it in this thread somewhere, but in addition to the heat, humidity, bugs, high crime rate, traffic, etc......I found that I really did miss the change of seasons. I was ready for something different. Miss all my friends in Orlando, and the parks and beach were always fun, but thats about it.
Stan  
GFiLA : 3/30/2020 8:17 pm : link
You are crazy. Southern California has so much going for it but the bands are clearly outweighing the goods. I live near Pasadena and the wife and I are looking to get out. Six digit income does not allow comfortable living.
Moved to north Atlanta suburbs a little over two years ago from....  
Crispino : 3/30/2020 10:13 pm : link
Bergen County, NJ.

There’s good and bad. The traffic is bad. Really bad. We are too far from the ocean here. Five hours, so that’s an adjustment. The bagels and pizza are brutal.

But the price of a home and taxes are FAR more affordable. And the people are lovely. Just friendly folks from all over the country. And the weather beats the crap out of the Tri State. Plenty of great restaurants and cultural things to do. All in all, a good move.

One more thing...Greenville is a really nice small city as others noted, but I wouldn’t want to live there. Not much going on when the colleges aren’t in session.

I like Roanoke VA, which is worth a look. That’s in Southwest Virginia in the Blue Ridge Mountains, not DelMarVa.

Also, Chattanooga Tennessee is a nice area.

Good luck!
KeoweeFan  
Lurts : 3/30/2020 10:21 pm : link
Weve been down from LI a couple of times and really like the Key neighborhood. Seems perfect for what we're looking for. Other than a nuke in the yard. Your handle seems like you're all in, right?
I'm not a huge..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2020 10:28 pm : link
Greenville fan when compared to the Charlotte area.

I lived in Anderson (20 minutes from Greenville) for about 4 years. We'd go to Greenville to shop and to eat out and they have a pretty cool downtown area. But they've been doing endless construction on I-85 for the past 12 years, and their school district is spotty at best.

Also, if you are flying out of Greenville/Spartanburg, you usually have a connection.

It is by no means a bad area to live, but I prefer the Charlotte area much more.
Fats, I still remember when you recommended that I visit The Dugout...  
Crispino : 3/31/2020 10:19 am : link
in Anderson. One of the great roadhouse bars I’ve ever been to. NASCAR or football on 50 screens, folks smoking cigarettes like they were good for them. Had an incredibly fun night there when my son was attending Clemson. Watching karaoke there was phenomenal. No matter how bad the singer, the crowd reacted to every single one of them as if they just heard a Grammy worthy performance.


Too bad it shut down. It was a fantastic place.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/31/2020 10:25 am : link
funny you said that. I tried to go back to the Dugout a couple years ago and it was gone!

Now that I'm going to have two at Clemson, we'll be making regular stays down there.
Good luck to your boys at Clemson.  
Crispino : 3/31/2020 10:41 am : link
It’s a special place. Almost had my daughter choose it, but she opted for University of Georgia.
I was never a big fan of Clemson because of the silly stuff Dabo  
Spider56 : 3/31/2020 12:37 pm : link
does on the sidelines between plays ... but he turned me around when he made the kid who fought in a game take the bus home with the band. He’s now my favorite college coach.
Dabo’s really a great guy.  
Crispino : 3/31/2020 1:32 pm : link
He sees to it that players participate in all kinds of community based activities in the off-season like Habitat for Humanity. He can get a little goofy on the sideline but he’s a good person and role model for the players.
RE: I live in Clermont.  
allstarjim : 3/31/2020 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14854449 Fred-in-Florida said:
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I've been here for 15 years. It's grown and still growing by leaps and bounds. It's a nice town has everything you could ask for. Stores and shopping no need to travel. Most of the restaurants are franchise types not to many private ones. Can't comment on the schools since I'm retired but they're all new facilities and from I understand are one of the better school districts in Lake County. Basically a good place to bring up your kids.

Windermere is an upscale community. Has a brand new High school and is one of the better school districts in Orange County. The Real Estate values reflect it's upscaledness (wow is that a word!).

Yes the humidity is pretty bad in the summer from late May into October. I definitely recommend a pool.

We're not far from Windermere but also look into Winter Garden/Oakland which is in between us and Windermere.


Hey Fred! I've visited your fine town a couple of times and am anxious to make another trip.

I am in the Elks and always stop in the Clermont Lodge, lots of friendly folks there.
LOL - well I guess I'm the only person who likes Central Florida  
PatersonPlank : 3/31/2020 11:01 pm : link
Must be the Disney fan in me (and the UCF Knights football team).
Charlotte area supposed to be pretty nice  
bc4life : 4/1/2020 1:37 pm : link
With the lttle one, I'd check re: school districts first.

Tennessee is also nice.

Might also want to consider proximity to other areas. Charlotte - how far a drive is it if you wanted to check out other areas.

Also, taxes are way less down here some placed better than others. Tennessee is nice - Live near Nashville, but I wouldn't want to live in Memphis or any place else.

If we didn't live here - probably look at Atlanta suburbs or Charlotte area.
RE: Sports in Nashville  
bc4life : 4/1/2020 1:41 pm : link
Titans, Predators, and just got a pro soccer team.

Lot of outdoor stuff to do. Place is growing exponentially.

Housing is reasonable. Taxes are really low. If you live outsude the city and are patient- would probably be shocked at the type of house you could get into. BUT- pay atention to the school districts
I just moved south in June of 2019  
Tom from LI : 4/1/2020 1:50 pm : link
I rented in Clayton, NC. Meh...

I landed my dream job in Durham and just bought a house in Youngsville.. I am 2 blocks from Wake Forest.

My wife and I absolutely love this area. I moved from Long Island, NY. The cost of living is noticeable. Very noticeable.

I don't think you can wrong anywhere south of DC. I just love living down here.

It was an expensive transition. ESP registering your cars. The move itself was not cheap, but once you survive that it is smooth sailing!

RE: Greeneville, SC  
BigBluesman : 4/1/2020 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14854346 MarvelousMike said:
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I am transplant from around Utica, NY, but went to grad school at Clemson. Greeneville, SC is a good choice as you are only a couple hours from Charlotte, Atlanta, Charleston, and mountains around Asheville, NC.
Down by Charleston, the humidity in the summer will wipe you out (4 years there in USN).

Utican in Los Angeles, here.

I daydream about moving back to the South. I was in Memphis for a couple years. I love how people say hello to everyone and talk with each other like they have nothing to do. I love the opportunities afforded to me here in LA but could see a time when the cost of living might not be worth it.

There are a lot of underrated spots in the South. OKC is a pretty good size town and its nice. I'd like to check out Arkansas some more.
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