Lets for a minute assume they aren't 100% on Burrows (putting the Ohio thing aside). If they could trade down a couple of spots and still get one of the top 3 QBs, plus probably get a whole lot of other picks, it may be worth considering
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Lets for a minute assume they aren't 100% on Burrows (putting the Ohio thing aside). If they could trade down a couple of spots and still get one of the top 3 QBs, plus probably get a whole lot of other picks, it may be worth considering
I agree ... and Dalton is only 32, At #5, the Bengals might still get Tua and he can sit a year to get totally healthy ... or 1 of the other top QBs. Burrows by himself is not going to save that franchise.
Which is that this is a one QB draft, Burrow or bust. All of the other prospects would concern me a lot for different reasons. I would not feel good about the Giants taking any of them. Tua I guess is the most intriguing but I am not sure about him as a prospect or player leaving the injury out of it, and these teams can’t just ignore the injury either.
If I’m Cincy I’d stay put, draft Burrow and move on.
have to listen, but it would take a ton to get me to move to #5. At that point, you may well miss out on Burrow, Tua, and maybe even Herbert, unless you're willing to trade back up. I'd also be leery of Tua because of his injury history.
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and you trade back? No chance. This marriage between the Bengals and hometown hero Burrow is just too good to pass up.
But is Burrow really the hometown hero? I didn't think he had any connection to Cincinnati, but rather Ohio in general.
Not to mention it's not even like he was born in Ohio. He spent part of his childhood there because his father took a job there (and I think he lived 2 hours from Cinci). It would be like saying Philly is my hometown because I'm from North Jersey. Not to mention who's to say just because he lived there automatically means he wants to go back to Ohio and live there his whole life? I moved out of Jersey for college and never returned to live there.
but that doesn't mean they are attempting anything.
The real question is whether its to take Burrow or Tua. Talk about a draft shake up...
Can you imagine if Miami moves up and takes Tua with Burrow falling to Washington? Washington would get a haul to sell the #2 pick. Or even worse for us is if they take Burrow and dump the Sweaty Selfie.
It's not like the Burrow camp was all warm and fuzzy about being a Bengal from the jump.
Could be an opportunity for the Bengals to save some face if they got some sort of heads up from the Burrow camp that he wasn't interested in playing in Cincy.
What if Miami offers the 5th, 18th, and 26th overall picks and perhaps another high 2021 pick for #1? That's an enticing offer if the Bengals are high on Tua, Herbert, or Love.
The Bengals roster is much better than a team like Miami's. Their biggest holes are at RT, ER, and QB. If they acquired those 1st round picks from Miami then the Bengals could come away with Tua, OT Austin Jackson, and ER Yetur Gross-Matos in round 1.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
RE: You're in perfect position to draft your franchise QB
have to listen, but it would take a ton to get me to move to #5. At that point, you may well miss out on Burrow, Tua, and maybe even Herbert, unless you're willing to trade back up. I'd also be leery of Tua because of his injury history.
What if Miami offers the 5th, 18th, and 26th overall picks and perhaps another high 2021 pick for #1? That's an enticing offer if the Bengals are high on Tua, Herbert, or Love.
The Bengals roster is much better than a team like Miami's. Their biggest holes are at RT, ER, and QB. If they acquired those 1st round picks from Miami then the Bengals could come away with Tua, OT Austin Jackson, and ER Yetur Gross-Matos in round 1.
Tua,Austin, and Yetur or Burrow....if you have a high grade on Tua despite the injury history that's a tough one to say no to. But it could be Herbert if one of Chargers or Panthers trade up.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
If that was the offer, I would say yes pretty quickly. And get my QB next year.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
If that was the offer, I would say yes pretty quickly. And get my QB next year.
if they got a high grade on Herbert or Love they probably get one. Tua would need a trade up. Herbert is 50/50. But a Herbert trade up likely costs less because it may be to only move up 1 spot especially if Skins go Young.
If one if the other QBs make the grade then it’s a no brainer.
I am just saying there is nothing wrong with putting good young players all over the place in 2020 and let them learn while likely still losing under “whomever” at QB. Then go QB next year.
I think the town of Cincinnati has as much patience as needed.
Really truly believe Burrow is a future franchise qb, there aren't enough picks to entice you out of that spot. You don't know if the other picks end up as good players and, contrary to popular BBI belief, you can't just bank on getting your qb next year. It's how you end up with a qb like Baker Mayfield instead of Patrick Mahomes or Carson Wentz (aside from some injuries).
Now, if you don't feel that qb is the guy, and maybe the other qbs in the draft aren't as well, of course you take three #1's.
Burrow truly isn’t their guy at 1? What if Bengals really are sold on Herbert let’s say? Is it possible that Bengals have Burrow at a grade 84, Herbert 83 grade, Love 83 grade etc (just looking at SYs grading scale) but can get pick 18 this year, Miami 2nd round this year as well as a 2021 1st round pick maybe 2022 2nd as well? At that point IF they don’t really have Burrow crazily higher than the remaining QBs, one would think they would strongly have to consider jumping all over that trade. Can stock up for the future. For Bengals sake, have to hope that whatever QB they do take is the right choice.
So number 5, number 18
Want to say number 39?(2nd this year not sure what #)
2021 1st
2022 2nd
For 2021 #1...
that may be too much but it would have to be too much to be in consideration
The Dolphins have made too many moves to acquire picks to get outmanuvered for the QB they want. The trade won't be with the Bengals but I fully expect them to be in possession of one of the top 3 picks before the draft begins. With the players they signed in the off season they know they will not be picking in the top 10 next year. It is 2020 draft or bust for them for a QB. My guess is that the trade will be with the Redskins. This would be good for us as it increases the small chance that Young falls to us but more importantly, it heats up the market for Herbert as the remaining teams who need a QB will be scrambling for the last of the big three. This in turn would mean we would be looking at Young or a trade down if he gets taken at No. 3 both of which would be good options for us.
Burrow to Cincy is as close to a lock as the Draft has ever had
Lets for a minute assume they aren't 100% on Burrows (putting the Ohio thing aside). If they could trade down a couple of spots and still get one of the top 3 QBs, plus probably get a whole lot of other picks, it may be worth considering
I agree ... and Dalton is only 32, At #5, the Bengals might still get Tua and he can sit a year to get totally healthy ... or 1 of the other top QBs. Burrows by himself is not going to save that franchise.
I do it in a minute if I'm Cin. Mia. has alot of chips to throw on the table. Good point on Dalton
But is Burrow really the hometown hero? I didn't think he had any connection to Cincinnati, but rather Ohio in general.
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and you trade back? No chance. This marriage between the Bengals and hometown hero Burrow is just too good to pass up.
But is Burrow really the hometown hero? I didn't think he had any connection to Cincinnati, but rather Ohio in general.
What do I know, but a buddy of mine who lives in OH claims that Cincinnati is more KY than OH. ;-)
I agree ... and Dalton is only 32, At #5, the Bengals might still get Tua and he can sit a year to get totally healthy ... or 1 of the other top QBs. Burrows by himself is not going to save that franchise.
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and you trade back? No chance. This marriage between the Bengals and hometown hero Burrow is just too good to pass up.
But is Burrow really the hometown hero? I didn't think he had any connection to Cincinnati, but rather Ohio in general.
What do I know, but a buddy of mine who lives in OH claims that Cincinnati is more KY than OH. ;-)
You knew Les Nessman too??
The real question is whether its to take Burrow or Tua. Talk about a draft shake up...
If I’m Cincy I’d stay put, draft Burrow and move on.
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and you trade back? No chance. This marriage between the Bengals and hometown hero Burrow is just too good to pass up.
But is Burrow really the hometown hero? I didn't think he had any connection to Cincinnati, but rather Ohio in general.
Not to mention it's not even like he was born in Ohio. He spent part of his childhood there because his father took a job there (and I think he lived 2 hours from Cinci). It would be like saying Philly is my hometown because I'm from North Jersey. Not to mention who's to say just because he lived there automatically means he wants to go back to Ohio and live there his whole life? I moved out of Jersey for college and never returned to live there.
The real question is whether its to take Burrow or Tua. Talk about a draft shake up...
Can you imagine if Miami moves up and takes Tua with Burrow falling to Washington? Washington would get a haul to sell the #2 pick. Or even worse for us is if they take Burrow and dump the Sweaty Selfie.
Cincy also loves the cost controlled players.
It's not like the Burrow camp was all warm and fuzzy about being a Bengal from the jump.
Could be an opportunity for the Bengals to save some face if they got some sort of heads up from the Burrow camp that he wasn't interested in playing in Cincy.
What if Miami offers the 5th, 18th, and 26th overall picks and perhaps another high 2021 pick for #1? That's an enticing offer if the Bengals are high on Tua, Herbert, or Love.
The Bengals roster is much better than a team like Miami's. Their biggest holes are at RT, ER, and QB. If they acquired those 1st round picks from Miami then the Bengals could come away with Tua, OT Austin Jackson, and ER Yetur Gross-Matos in round 1.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
Miss out on all three at 5,, I doubt that
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out of that spot.
What if Miami offers the 5th, 18th, and 26th overall picks and perhaps another high 2021 pick for #1? That's an enticing offer if the Bengals are high on Tua, Herbert, or Love.
The Bengals roster is much better than a team like Miami's. Their biggest holes are at RT, ER, and QB. If they acquired those 1st round picks from Miami then the Bengals could come away with Tua, OT Austin Jackson, and ER Yetur Gross-Matos in round 1.
Tua,Austin, and Yetur or Burrow....if you have a high grade on Tua despite the injury history that's a tough one to say no to. But it could be Herbert if one of Chargers or Panthers trade up.
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for the ages.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
If that was the offer, I would say yes pretty quickly. And get my QB next year.
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for the ages.
Dolphins could offer 3 1st round picks and a 2nd and STILL have picks in every single round. Not saying they do this but their offer can be substantial while still having a pretty good amount of picks left over.
If that was the offer, I would say yes pretty quickly. And get my QB next year.
if they got a high grade on Herbert or Love they probably get one. Tua would need a trade up. Herbert is 50/50. But a Herbert trade up likely costs less because it may be to only move up 1 spot especially if Skins go Young.
I am just saying there is nothing wrong with putting good young players all over the place in 2020 and let them learn while likely still losing under “whomever” at QB. Then go QB next year.
I think the town of Cincinnati has as much patience as needed.
Now, if you don't feel that qb is the guy, and maybe the other qbs in the draft aren't as well, of course you take three #1's.
So number 5, number 18
Want to say number 39?(2nd this year not sure what #)
2021 1st
2022 2nd
For 2021 #1...
that may be too much but it would have to be too much to be in consideration
serious question: Who bedsides the Chargers?
Jax? Carolina? Raiders? What's the realistic competition to move up for Herbert instead of Love?
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Lets for a minute assume they aren't 100% on Burrows (putting the Ohio thing aside). If they could trade down a couple of spots and still get one of the top 3 QBs, plus probably get a whole lot of other picks, it may be worth considering
I agree ... and Dalton is only 32, At #5, the Bengals might still get Tua and he can sit a year to get totally healthy ... or 1 of the other top QBs. Burrows by himself is not going to save that franchise.
I do it in a minute if I'm Cin. Mia. has alot of chips to throw on the table. Good point on Dalton