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NFT: Medical Bill Question

Bob in Vt : 3/31/2020 7:22 pm
My wife had her gall bladder removed last year. A few days after she was released, she had to go back to the hospital by ambulance. Turned out, she had a bile leak and she needed to have a drain installed.

This happened in May of last year. I thought we had paid all the bills. Then out of nowhere, we get a bill for over $8,000 for the bile leak. This is after our insurance (a decent one) paid their portion. The original bill was for over $43K. I checked my insurance and no bill had been submitted to be paid by me until this month. Wierd it took so long ...

But my real question is this : Do I have any leg to stand on to challenge the bill ? I see the bile leak as a failure by the Dr to remove the gall bladder correctly. However, I don't really know and I don't really know who to turn to for help. A football site is not my preferred method to find help, but I am not sure whom else to ask (sad, huh ?)

Any advice would be welcome. I know I am opening myself up for abuse, but am hoping someone gives me some good direction. Thanks
Id be very surprised if you had to pay that.  
Jerz44 : 3/31/2020 7:50 pm : link
Do you have an out of pocket max? If so, did you already hit it?

Sometimes you get billed like this bc the provider never submitted it to your insurance company.

Either way I’d check with your insurance first and then the provider.
Not sure...  
trueblueinpw : 3/31/2020 8:04 pm : link
Any time you get a lawyer involved it’s been my experience you essentially double your problem. There’s the problem you bring to the lawyer and then there’s the lawyer. So, two problems. Again, just my experience. With the medical malpractice you sometimes really have no choice because the bills are so high and then there’s times when you just can’t believe the doctors should get away with gross negligence. One thing you can count on is that the insurance company will do everything they can to screw you.

Gosh darn, I’m sorry. The older I get the more frequently I hear these stories about peoples lives and health being ruined by medical mistakes and a lot of stories about people being ruined financially by health problems and malpractice. It shouldn’t be this way. Sorry and best of luck to you.
They're not always "medical mistakes"  
rmc3981 : 3/31/2020 8:24 pm : link
Most often times they're not. They're called "complications". You sign a consent form that thoroughly goes through them. Oftentimes you can literally do everything perfectly as a surgeon and get a less than ideal result. It's an art, not a science. Not everything is in your control. Example, you do a total knee implant and have a blood clot form. You never see it coming and you manage it as fast and as efficiently as you can. I've had friends have patients die from elective surgical cases from pulmonary emboli and there was no way anyone could see it coming.

Also, physicians that continually do bad work, get litigated, often, quickly dropped by their insurance carrier and have to leave the profession. So, you know, your surgeon cannot charge your insurance for ninety days after surgery, it's called globalization of charges. The hospital, likely can but being the really, really squeaky wheel can help, and, at the very least, get the amount reduced markedly. I'm sorry for what you and Mrs are going through. I've been an ortho surgeon for thirty seven years, done thousands and thousands of cases, never been litigated (ever), knock on wood, and truly anguish when even small things aren't going well. Most surgeons do. Some because they're good people, some because they don't want to get dropped by their carrier and then cannot practice in the hospital/surgical center and usually both.
Bob ... I would contact your insurance company  
CMc in 342 : 3/31/2020 9:56 pm : link
after asking the hospital for a detailed bill breakdown. One thing to check is that the charges are considered "Usual and Customary" for the procedure performed by the doctor. As far as charges by the hospital -- check with the hospital -- they usually have an office of patient relations that can act as an ombudsman for complaints and work directly with the billing department to iron out billing mistakes.

Also, many hospitals have a form you can request for consideration of hardship or other petition for forgiveness of debt for charitable purposes.

See link below for an interesting article on hospital pricing in CT. Good luck!

Story re creating medical pricing charges at hospitals - ( New Window )
Work with your insurance carrier  
TyreeHelmet : 3/31/2020 10:02 pm : link
From what you’re saying- doubtful you’re on the hook for that.
Agree with the above  
GIANTS128 : 4/1/2020 8:11 am : link
Something like that sounds like it would be included with the initial surgical bill. I would pay nothing until the insurance carrier processes the bill.
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