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My Stay Home Stay Safe Mock Draft

blueblood : 4/1/2020 12:22 am
I never do mock drafts. I usually dont know enough about players past around round 3 to do a good one. I found the ProfootballNetwork Mock Draft that allows you to do trades and its free so I gave it a whirl.. Tell me what you think...

I made a trade with Miami to move up one spot. I tried to get more out of them but all I could manage was a #3 which was 70 overall. That gave the Giants 4 picks out of the top 100 players. I tried to go with the best player available that also addressed a need in most cases. In that later rounds I took some fliers on players Ive seen others talk about or mentioned.. I probably took one to many receiver later in the draft, but I was thinking if one shines maybe Tate gets released...

Anyway here goes

Round 1- Isaiah Simmons-Defense (ha ha) Clemson

Round 2- Yetur Gross-Matos DE Penn State

Round 3a-Isaiah Wilson-OT Georgia

Round 3b-Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame

Round 4- Nick Harris C- Washington

Round 5-Saddiq Charles OT- LSU (going for competition and depth was surprised he was still there)

Round 6- JR Reed- S Georgia- Picked him on Sy56 recommendation from Safety Class review

Round 7- Isaiah Coulter-WR- Rhode Island ( I remember reading or hearing somewhere that the Giants talked to him and Joe Judge showed some interest

Round 7 - Derrek Tuszka DE-NDST- seen a few clips here and there.. could help on Special Teams

Round 7 - Juwan Johnson-WR Oregon- This is the one pick I just couldnt decide. Big 6'4" 230 WR.. 4.58 aint bad for someone his size. His three cone was 2nd among receivers at the combine.. Its the 7th round.. what the hell... why not..

Round 7 - James Smith-Williams- DE NC State.. Practice Squad candidate.. good DE size..

I will say this.. I would not want this job.. once you get to end of round 3 round 4.. I dont know enough. NFL GM is not a job I would want...

I  
BleedBlue : 4/1/2020 2:06 am : link
cannot see our first two picks going defense...one of those has to be OL. To be honest, i expect 2 of first 3 to be OL
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section125 : 4/1/2020 4:46 am : link
In comment 14855776 BleedBlue said:
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cannot see our first two picks going defense...one of those has to be OL. To be honest, i expect 2 of first 3 to be OL


I can. I can see them going to build the defense this year. I can also see them going total offense. I'm not sure that they try to balance the rebuild and try to build both sides of the ball together.
I'm beginning to think that since DG missed Josh Allen last year, he goes after Simmons this year since he can attack from anywhere. He can also cover TEs and RBs, one of the biggest failings of the Giants defense for years.

I'm as torn as anyone between OT and Simmons. And I can see it going either way. The big thing is nobody really knows what Judge is thinking. We kind of know what DG thinks(hog mollies and run the ball). But Judge is the unknown. He did preach versatility. Simmons is that kind of player. I also think they will let the draft come to them. There are so many holes that I think that after the 1st pick they just go BPA.
Where did the second 3rd round pick come from?  
JFIB : 4/1/2020 7:21 am : link
Did I miss something in the last few days? We traded our 3rd this year to the Jets.
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joeinpa : 4/1/2020 7:24 am : link
In comment 14855782 section125 said:
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In comment 14855776 BleedBlue said:


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cannot see our first two picks going defense...one of those has to be OL. To be honest, i expect 2 of first 3 to be OL



I can. I can see them going to build the defense this year. I can also see them going total offense. I'm not sure that they try to balance the rebuild and try to build both sides of the ball together.
I'm beginning to think that since DG missed Josh Allen last year, he goes after Simmons this year since he can attack from anywhere. He can also cover TEs and RBs, one of the biggest failings of the Giants defense for years.

I'm as torn as anyone between OT and Simmons. And I can see it going either way. The big thing is nobody really knows what Judge is thinking. We kind of know what DG thinks(hog mollies and run the ball). But Judge is the unknown. He did preach versatility. Simmons is that kind of player. I also think they will let the draft come to them. There are so many holes that I think that after the 1st pick they just go BPA.


Listening to BBK yesterday they had two draft guys from NFL Network on.

I was walking and too lazy to go back and look up names, who while stating they believed any of the four tackles would be a good pick at 4, they liked Thomas the best; they liked a few other tackles they feel will be available with Giants second pick.

Makes me think Giants should go defense if they really like Simmons or Okudah they go there.
Like it for the most psrt  
jeff57 : 4/1/2020 7:24 am : link
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RE: Where did the second 3rd round pick come from?  
jeff57 : 4/1/2020 7:24 am : link
In comment 14855806 JFIB said:
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Did I miss something in the last few days? We traded our 3rd this year to the Jets.


He said he would trade down with Miami
RE: Where did the second 3rd round pick come from?  
section125 : 4/1/2020 7:25 am : link
In comment 14855806 JFIB said:
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Did I miss something in the last few days? We traded our 3rd this year to the Jets.


He traded with Miami for their 3rd #70
RE: RE: Where did the second 3rd round pick come from?  
JFIB : 4/1/2020 7:34 am : link
In comment 14855810 section125 said:
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In comment 14855806 JFIB said:


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Did I miss something in the last few days? We traded our 3rd this year to the Jets.



He traded with Miami for their 3rd #70


But he's got two picks in the third round, Is he getting two picks or does the a) and b) represent two options? I'm so confused.
RE: RE: RE: Where did the second 3rd round pick come from?  
JFIB : 4/1/2020 7:37 am : link
In comment 14855815 JFIB said:
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In comment 14855810 section125 said:


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In comment 14855806 JFIB said:


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Did I miss something in the last few days? We traded our 3rd this year to the Jets.



He traded with Miami for their 3rd #70



But he's got two picks in the third round, Is he getting two picks or does the a) and b) represent two options? I'm so confused.


Forgot about the comp pick. Duh!
Really like this draft  
PhilSimms15 : 4/1/2020 7:40 am : link
The defense has zero playmakers and zero potential pro bowl players. Taking the two defenders first and second gives the Giants the potential of two playmakers in one fell swoop.

Love Simmons and as much as the Giants need an OL, I’d hate to pass on such an unusual and successful football player.
I can live without the Offensive Tackle in the first  
barens : 4/1/2020 8:40 am : link
two rounds if we came away with those 2 plus an extra 3rd round pick.

I'm not as high on Wilson, but Charles is someone I could get excited about.
I’d  
GoDeep13 : 4/1/2020 8:45 am : link
Sign up for those first three picks right now.
This terrible because  
superspynyg : 4/1/2020 9:07 am : link
Rds 2-4 the guys won’t be there where you are picking them.
Also we do t have 2 3rd round picks

RE: This terrible because  
blueblood : 4/1/2020 9:20 am : link
In comment 14855864 superspynyg said:
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Rds 2-4 the guys won’t be there where you are picking them.
Also we do t have 2 3rd round picks


This wasnt about what I think we will get. The mock draft simulator had those players available.
RE: This terrible because  
Saquads26 : 4/1/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 14855864 superspynyg said:
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Rds 2-4 the guys won’t be there where you are picking them.
Also we do t have 2 3rd round picks


Maybe try reading
On the fence  
lugnut : 4/1/2020 9:26 am : link
On one hand it looks good; on the other...3 DEs and 3 WRs?
would love that draft  
Dave : 4/1/2020 9:29 am : link
go talk to dg
I suspect  
Bones : 4/1/2020 9:32 am : link
The 2nd Rd pick will go in the 1st, and The 3rd Rd OT will go in the 2nd. I would swap the WR and C picks (take C before WR). I think Reed will go at least 2 rounds before when you have him going, but I like the players you chose. I would probably take OT with our first pick, but Simmons would be awfully tempting.
Simmons  
Tuckrule : 4/1/2020 9:52 am : link
I compared him to Taylor mays and got killed by everyone including Dave Te Thomas. I Listened to big blue banter the other day and the guest, who’s a professional scout, compared mays and Simmons. The host of bbb said he can see that but mays was a little stiffer in his movements. Sorry to say Simmons will end up being Taylor mays. He’ll be a safety. Period. If he’s near the los he’ll get destroyed. He cannot cover deep like he did in college. NFL speed and agility will eat him up. He doesn’t have the burst that people talk about. Stiff hips. Watch the kid turn and run. Neville gallimore has more fluid hips. It’s like asking lavonte David to play safety. How will that go? Simmons is a tweener who won’t have a position and who will be about average in the nfl. If you want average low impact player take Simmons at 4. Washed out in the run game basically useless. Zero pass rush ability. His game was purely speed. He will drop on draft day and many will be surprised. I’ve been saying this for a long time and it’s becoming more apparent.
That draft is crazy  
Jeever : 4/1/2020 10:52 am : link
I did some research on time of possession (ex OT). The Giants were 30th out of 32 teams. Almost all of the top teams made the playoffs. Our number was 47.26%. I believe this number is elevated by the fact that teams will give ground late in games that they have leads to keep you between the 20's and off the board. It's probably closer to 42% if we're honest.

Go ahead and pick all the defense you want because you're going to need them all if our defense is on the field for 60% of the game.

If we concentrate on fixing the OL now we increase our time of possession, take advantage of our potential HOF RB and protect our QB. It may not translate into points but it will rest our defense enhancing their production and keep games closer where our young talent on offense can steal a few games.

If this team wins 8 games next year (if there is a season) I'd consider that like winning a superbowl with what we've had to endure for the last several seasons. A more realistic number would 6-10.
Should have added  
Jeever : 4/1/2020 11:08 am : link
the link
Time of possesion net OT - ( New Window )
that would be  
ryanmkeane : 4/1/2020 11:34 am : link
a phenomenal draft
RE: That draft is crazy  
Old Dirty : 4/1/2020 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14855985 Jeever said:
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I did some research on time of possession (ex OT). The Giants were 30th out of 32 teams. Almost all of the top teams made the playoffs. Our number was 47.26%. I believe this number is elevated by the fact that teams will give ground late in games that they have leads to keep you between the 20's and off the board. It's probably closer to 42% if we're honest.

Go ahead and pick all the defense you want because you're going to need them all if our defense is on the field for 60% of the game.

If we concentrate on fixing the OL now we increase our time of possession, take advantage of our potential HOF RB and protect our QB. It may not translate into points but it will rest our defense enhancing their production and keep games closer where our young talent on offense can steal a few games.

If this team wins 8 games next year (if there is a season) I'd consider that like winning a superbowl with what we've had to endure for the last several seasons. A more realistic number would 6-10.


I would like to take your argument and flip it on its head. You cite the time of possession ranking as being in favor of not drafting defense. I'm here to tell you that our shit defense was the reason for the low ranking in the time of possession column. I love this mock draft by blueblood. If we draft two defensive studs in the first 2 rounds (provided the defense is better coached), the offense will be on the field more because we are stopping the opponent's drives. Remember our 1990 & 2007 Superbowl appearances? We stopped those great offenses & gave the ball back to our offense. I know we need to improve the OL, but not at #4. The value isn't there & it might not be at #37 either. Isiah Simmons is a great pick at #4 (#5 in this case).
Nice job  
Rjanyg : 4/1/2020 10:59 pm : link
Simmons will be great. Gross Matos is a steal in round 2. Love the 2 OL and WR in rounds 3 & 4.

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