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Hypothetical - what if the 2020 season is canceled?

Oscar : 4/1/2020 8:36 am
Still seems unlikely that the full season would get canceled, and a decision is still a ways off. Even so, I was thinking about potential implications:

- What would happen to player contracts, are they paused or would a year just expire or would this have to be negotiated between the union and the owners? Thinking in particular about Barkley and Jones here, two cornerstone players on their rookie deals. It would be unfortunate to lose a cost controlled year (matters a lot more for Jones than Barkley, who is already making upper-end RB money). Obviously it would also unfortunate to lose a prime Barkley year and a critical development year for Jones but that may be unavoidable.

- Assuming contracts were just put on "pause" and rolled over to 2021, do you think we'd see mass holdouts? Barkley for example is scheduled to enter the final year of his rookie deal in 2021 and would likely want (and would get) a new contract under normal circumstances. Isn't it likely he'd still want the new deal? He's still another year older and running backs don't last very long.

- Would it have any impact on the 2020 draft class? If 2020 contracts are put on hold could players have the option to re-enter the draft in 2021? What about a 2020 draft pick who holds out into training camp only to have the season canceled? Also how would they determine the 2021 draft order?

I assume this will impact sports at all levels. College recruiting would be difficult if high school sports are canceled nationwide.

I know there are more important things going on right now but just thinking about the impact on sports in general and the NFL in particular.
Buy guns, prepare for Armageddon .....because  
George from PA : 4/1/2020 8:43 am : link
We will have bigger issues then football....if this quarantine keeps going on....into next year.
Yeah  
Canton : 4/1/2020 8:47 am : link
If this is still going on well into the fall and beginning of winter. The last thing on our minds will be football.
although the MLB & NFL unions are different  
Giantsfan79 : 4/1/2020 8:52 am : link
MLB just worked out an agreement with the union to resolve these types of issues which could become a framework for the other leagues.
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My prediction...  
EricJ : 4/1/2020 8:57 am : link
this will be over before training camp...

but the attendance for the upcoming season will be at an all time low.

Meanwhile, if the NFL was smart, they would air older historic games constantly on Thursday and Sunday nights. People need something to do and I think the ratings may do well.
RE: My prediction...  
EricJ : 4/1/2020 8:58 am : link
In comment 14855853 EricJ said:
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this will be over before training camp...

but the attendance for the upcoming season will be at an all time low.

Meanwhile, if the NFL was smart, they would air older historic games constantly on Thursday and Sunday nights. People need something to do and I think the ratings may do well.


^^^ I mean NOW, not this fall
My Prediction  
Manning10 : 4/1/2020 9:04 am : link
Training camps will open, with NO public practices.

I strongly suspect given the fact that flu season starts again in November and most likely there will not be a vaccine for Covid 19 until early 2021, games will be played with no fans in attendance.
Baseball and the NBA have hinted as much for their seasons.
RE: My Prediction  
JohnB : 4/1/2020 9:10 am : link
In comment 14855862 Manning10 said:
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Training camps will open, with NO public practices.

I strongly suspect given the fact that flu season starts again in November and most likely there will not be a vaccine for Covid 19 until early 2021, games will be played with no fans in attendance.
Baseball and the NBA have hinted as much for their seasons.


this! They are not cancelling the season but there might not be fans in the stands
Gettleman survives  
Metnut : 4/1/2020 9:19 am : link
another year as Giants GM
So fans can't congregate  
Giantgator : 4/1/2020 9:40 am : link
but we'll ask players, coaches, and staff to practice, attend meetings, and play against each other before there's a vaccine?

I hate to think about it, but I have a bad feeling there won't be a season.

Curious how this affects contracts and team control. I think career length will be the same amount of years, but with a year gap if they don't play. A year off to heal might even extend the careers of some vets.
There would have to be some negotiating  
Biteymax22 : 4/1/2020 9:46 am : link
Players want salaries, clubs don't want to pay them unless the players play. Teams also don't want to lose a year of control on a star player for a season they don't play, so they'd need to work something out. Maybe partial salaries, but it doesn't count as a year of service or something.

In reality, if this whole thing is still going on by training camp, they are more than likely going to find a way to run the league, just without fans at games.

Whoever the first sport back is, their TV ratings are going to be crazy.
I could envision a world  
ron mexico : 4/1/2020 9:57 am : link
Where we are slowly getting back to normal but still don’t want 60-80k people in the same place.

I have no idea what will happen with contracts and the like.
Games Played in Empty Stadiums Won't Work...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/1/2020 9:59 am : link
Because it would still be putting a significant number of people at risk.

Think about it.

Between players, coaches, med staff, ball boys, etc. each team would have a minimum of 80 people (probably more) in close-quarter contact with each other, five days a week.

Each NFL team would be like their own mini-cruise ship, where if one or two players get the coronavirus, then a significant number of those 80 people would get it too.

And with 32 NFL teams that means the minimum potential number of infected people is 2,560. (80 x 32 = 2,560)

Of course all of those people are not going to be quarantined for the season. They will go home to their families, friends and neighbors and they still have to shop for groceries, get gas for their cars, etc.

The number of people infected by the original 2,560 potential cases ALSO have family, friends and neighbors that would now be put at risk.

And for what? So that America can have football?

I miss sports as much as the next guy, but I don't see sports coming back in any form until there is a vaccine.
I was thinking about this and how it would impact the NFL draft  
Rjanyg : 4/1/2020 10:02 am : link
Let's say the 2020 season doesn't happen. What happens to the 2021 NFL draft? How is draft order determined? Do we get the 4th overall pick next year as well? It could change draft strategy this year IMO.

I hope it doesn't come to this but NFL people have to be thinking this to some degree.
Yeah, the season isn’t going to happen...  
Default : 4/1/2020 10:05 am : link
Won’t be shocked if the draft is postponed as well.
My guess  
HowardInLondon : 4/1/2020 10:05 am : link
is that they'll be a truncated season: maybe just divisional games and then some kind of playoff.

There'll likely be no pre-season so teams should be allowed to start the season, whenever that is, with a much expanded roster, maybe the full 90.
Fear this is the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2020 10:06 am : link
likeliest option. I pray to God we're wrong.
RE: Games Played in Empty Stadiums Won't Work...  
ron mexico : 4/1/2020 10:10 am : link
In comment 14855919 Jim in Tampa said:
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Because it would still be putting a significant number of people at risk.

Think about it.

Between players, coaches, med staff, ball boys, etc. each team would have a minimum of 80 people (probably more) in close-quarter contact with each other, five days a week.

Each NFL team would be like their own mini-cruise ship, where if one or two players get the coronavirus, then a significant number of those 80 people would get it too.

And with 32 NFL teams that means the minimum potential number of infected people is 2,560. (80 x 32 = 2,560)

Of course all of those people are not going to be quarantined for the season. They will go home to their families, friends and neighbors and they still have to shop for groceries, get gas for their cars, etc.

The number of people infected by the original 2,560 potential cases ALSO have family, friends and neighbors that would now be put at risk.

And for what? So that America can have football?

I miss sports as much as the next guy, but I don't see sports coming back in any form until there is a vaccine.


Testing should be available and able to accommodate that level of interaction by then.
RE: My guess  
ron mexico : 4/1/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 14855931 HowardInLondon said:
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is that they'll be a truncated season: maybe just divisional games and then some kind of playoff.

There'll likely be no pre-season so teams should be allowed to start the season, whenever that is, with a much expanded roster, maybe the full 90.


That all makes sense except for the expanded roster.
Less games = less bodies needed
Also less income = owners wanting to cut costs as much as possible.
RE: I was thinking about this and how it would impact the NFL draft  
Jim in Tampa : 4/1/2020 10:14 am : link
In comment 14855925 Rjanyg said:
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Let's say the 2020 season doesn't happen. What happens to the 2021 NFL draft? How is draft order determined? Do we get the 4th overall pick next year as well? It could change draft strategy this year IMO.

I hope it doesn't come to this but NFL people have to be thinking this to some degree.

I would think that they would do some sort of NBA-style draft-position lottery, where the bad teams have a better chance of getting the top picks.

There is precedence however for the NFL to hold an additional draft based on the draft order of the previous year.

I believe that when the USFL folded (or shortly before) the NFL held a draft of USFL players not under NFL contracts... and the draft order was the same as the draft order for that year's regular NFL draft.

I think it was 1984, but I could be wrong.
RE: RE: I was thinking about this and how it would impact the NFL draft  
flycatcher : 4/1/2020 10:55 am : link
In comment 14855944 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14855925 Rjanyg said:


Quote:


Let's say the 2020 season doesn't happen. What happens to the 2021 NFL draft? How is draft order determined? Do we get the 4th overall pick next year as well? It could change draft strategy this year IMO.

I hope it doesn't come to this but NFL people have to be thinking this to some degree.


I would think that they would do some sort of NBA-style draft-position lottery, where the bad teams have a better chance of getting the top picks.

There is precedence however for the NFL to hold an additional draft based on the draft order of the previous year.

I believe that when the USFL folded (or shortly before) the NFL held a draft of USFL players not under NFL contracts... and the draft order was the same as the draft order for that year's regular NFL draft.

I think it was 1984, but I could be wrong.

Let's face it, there is no way the team owners are  
Marty in Albany : 4/1/2020 11:01 am : link
giving back billions of dollars to the TV networks.

What will they do? Let's see:

Formations with each player at least six feet apart;
Hand-washing after each play;
Surgical face masks worn behind the helmet face mask;
10 yard penalty for sneezing;
Soap & water dunk instead of a Gatorade dunk. (Grin)
If the NFL season is canceled  
JFIB : 4/1/2020 11:21 am : link
Than I would expect the NCAA football season will also be canceled. Thus there would be no draft next year. This years draft picks will enter next season as rookies and the NFL and The NFLPA would enter into negotiations on some form of off season (all be it a very long off season) compensation for the players to stay in shape and maintain social distancing until such time as the NFL declares they can get back to work. Perhaps there might be longer training camp for the 2021 season, who knows?
The SEASON IS CANCELLED...  
x meadowlander : 4/1/2020 12:06 pm : link
...earliest vaccine at a year away, the wave of CoVid illnesses will likely subside in early summer, but it won't go away completely - common expectation is an autumn wave of the illness.

It's hard to accept the reality of it. Social Distancing has to last until the vaccine is released, until then it is ridiculous to think we should be filling 70,000 seat stadiums and having full contact football games.

The only way I see the season starting  
pizbo : 4/1/2020 12:43 pm : link
is if all players and staff are first quarantined then stay isolated to play in front of empty stadiums. It wouldn't be too different than something like the Olympic village. Just curious if there is infrastructure somewhere that would allow them to do this.

They could recover revenue by televising and staggering all the games to maximize TV ad-revenue.

Just a thought but I can't imagine any other way of moving forward besides this.
If we are still in a lock down situation  
Manning10 : 4/1/2020 1:46 pm : link
6 months from now, forget the Sports seasons we are talking Anarchy and what comes from that. That's Terrifying to think about.
Being a season ticket holder  
Maijay : 4/1/2020 1:55 pm : link
I have come to the conclusion that if there is a season I will not attend any games. My wife told me if I sit in a packed stadium she will kill me before I contract any virus. I am of the age and medical history demographic group where getting Covid-19 could be lethal.

So I will take the financial hit for the season tickets . Plus I will not put them up for sale because I wouldn't want to be responsible for somebody else getting sick even if it was their decision to take the chance.

Having said that, after listening to the health experts almost guarantee the virus will have a resurgence in the fall attending a football game seems ludicrous. I love my Giants but the NFL can not be so morally and ethically bankrupt to allow a season to go in pursuit of the almighty buck. NFL please listen to the health experts and make their recommendations guide you on the fate of the upcoming season.

Bracing for it  
micky : 4/1/2020 2:08 pm : link
This is going to be awhile esp in this country
The longer this goes entertainers athletes etc  
Rolyrock : 4/1/2020 11:02 pm : link
Will start to lose money and be well worthless. It would be about survival. Not leisure time entertainment.
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