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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2020 7:28 pm
Been rewatching a lot of old classics & watched this game earlier. The tackle probably saved a TD. And in a game that ultimately went to OT, saved our season.

Some other general thoughts on the game-

1) That might have been the apex of the Eli to Plax connection. Both of them had big, big games. Plax just undressed Al Harris all game long.
2) The opening play was BJ just trucked Woodson. Beautiful.
3) Hixon with a huge fumble recovery on McQuarter's fumble late in the 4th.
4) Webster really turned the corner in that Buffalo game. I think most of us considered him a bust come late that year, but he took off in that Buffalo game & really became an elite CB after.
5) Tynes had big balls. Misses 2 long field goals in regulation & before TC can even make a decision in OT, Tynes is out there sprinting.

Good memories.
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Webster's turnaround was nothing short of remarkable.  
j_rud : 4/1/2020 7:46 pm : link
I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2020 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14856733 j_rud said:
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I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.


jrud, agree. I remember Week 1 vs. Dallas & the Cowboys torched Webster. A lot of us-myself included-really had written him off by the time of that Buffalo game. Then he has that pick 6 & it was a switch was flipped.

Great Giant.
RE: Webster's turnaround was nothing short of remarkable.  
rebel yell : 4/1/2020 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14856733 j_rud said:
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I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.

I think you have it absolutely right. Webster made the difference. That said, AP's tackle was the turning point in that game.
The McQuarters fumble was recovered by  
No Where Man : 4/1/2020 8:10 pm : link
Michael Johnson.
I'll never forget his nickname  
pizbo : 4/1/2020 8:15 pm : link
"Corey I'm suddenly amazing Webster"

For those few years he really was exceptional. I'll never forget how he basically shut down TO. A great Giant as was so many on the teams. Very fortunate to have witnessed it.
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j_rud : 4/1/2020 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14856738 rebel yell said:
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I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.


I think you have it absolutely right. Webster made the difference. That said, AP's tackle was the turning point in that game.


Absolutely, an incredible play. But I feel it gets the appropriate level of reverence. Everyone loves that play and recalls it fondly as well as somewhat regularly when discussing the 2007 run. I think Webster is often overlooked.

Just look at the storylines from that season: Eli and the Chris Mortensen report, the NASCAR package, Strahan's swan song, Eli's vindication, the Jacobs/Bradshaw combo, Plax and the season-long injury, the emergence of numerous rookies down the stretch...it truly was a remarkable year. And I think that its often overlooked that we watched an incredible career turnaround in Webster. He was a healthy scratch a little more than a month into the season. A healthy scratch! They had 5 CBs and decided it was best to not even let him dress. Fast forward a few months and hes the teams #1 CB, mirroring opposing offenses top receivers and picking off Brett Favre in overtime of the conference championship.

Typing this makes me want to get a Webster jersey lol...
RE: I'll never forget his nickname  
j_rud : 4/1/2020 8:24 pm : link
In comment 14856757 pizbo said:
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"Corey I'm suddenly amazing Webster"



Hahaha, that was CoachLubrano, a good poster from back in the day.
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rebel yell : 4/1/2020 8:28 pm : link
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I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.


I think you have it absolutely right. Webster made the difference. That said, AP's tackle was the turning point in that game.



Absolutely, an incredible play. But I feel it gets the appropriate level of reverence. Everyone loves that play and recalls it fondly as well as somewhat regularly when discussing the 2007 run. I think Webster is often overlooked.

Just look at the storylines from that season: Eli and the Chris Mortensen report, the NASCAR package, Strahan's swan song, Eli's vindication, the Jacobs/Bradshaw combo, Plax and the season-long injury, the emergence of numerous rookies down the stretch...it truly was a remarkable year. And I think that its often overlooked that we watched an incredible career turnaround in Webster. He was a healthy scratch a little more than a month into the season. A healthy scratch! They had 5 CBs and decided it was best to not even let him dress. Fast forward a few months and hes the teams #1 CB, mirroring opposing offenses top receivers and picking off Brett Favre in overtime of the conference championship.

Typing this makes me want to get a Webster jersey lol...

Really well argued. Impossible to refute any of it. Webster truly did become extraordinary when it mattered most.
RE: The McQuarters fumble was recovered by  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2020 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14856750 No Where Man said:
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Michael Johnson.


Johnson knocked the ball out of one of the Packers but Hixon fell on it.
The holding call on Snee  
St. Jimmy : 4/1/2020 8:52 pm : link
on the Bradshaw TD run was a killer. It went from game over to Packers ball just like that.
good thread  
Dr. D : 4/1/2020 9:04 pm : link
The AP tackle is 1 of my most memorable Giants D playoff moments.

The comments about Webster are so true and shows how coaching and experience can make a huge difference... which makes me somewhat optimistic for the future.

It was Webster's 3rd season, which shows how silly it is for anyone to write off Baker, et al before their 2nd.
That play took about 3 seconds  
gfinop : 4/1/2020 9:13 pm : link
before help arrived. I will never forget... It seemed like an eternity at the time.
This was the only game in that run  
Steve L : 4/1/2020 9:14 pm : link
I was worried about. I was very confident we’d beat TB and Dallas, but nervous as hell about this one. Icy cold day against Favre In Lambeau for the NFC Championship. That had Packer win written all over it. They were so good. Once we beat them, I knew we’d beat the Pats.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2020 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14856800 Steve L said:
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I was worried about. I was very confident we’d beat TB and Dallas, but nervous as hell about this one. Icy cold day against Favre In Lambeau for the NFC Championship. That had Packer win written all over it. They were so good. Once we beat them, I knew we’d beat the Pats.


Steve, I thought we'd beat GB. The game I was most worried about was the Dallas one.
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Steve L : 4/1/2020 9:21 pm : link
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I was worried about. I was very confident we’d beat TB and Dallas, but nervous as hell about this one. Icy cold day against Favre In Lambeau for the NFC Championship. That had Packer win written all over it. They were so good. Once we beat them, I knew we’d beat the Pats.



Steve, I thought we'd beat GB. The game I was most worried about was the Dallas one.


This one came back to TC for me. I was confident there was no way he was going to let the same team, let alone Dallas, beat him three times in the same season.
Im rewatching Giants Cowboys Week 11 2011  
John In CO : 4/1/2020 9:21 pm : link
Sunday night game, Giants comeback to defeat Cowboys and tie for top of NFC East. We all know what happened from here on out. But man....34-29, Cowboys ball, Romo has Austin 5 yards clear of the DB and misses him by a foot. Giants get the ball back and go on to win the game. But that play...all I could think of is how history would have changed if that pass is on target. Thank God it was not:)

As a side note, if anyone remembers, we pulled the ultimate no show the next week vs the Skins at home. Maybe the most perplexing Giants game ever. Just a total crapfest. I remember being so upset with that game. Guess they were too....didnt lose another game the rest of the way!
One of the most underrated plays in NYG history  
Sonic Youth : 4/1/2020 9:21 pm : link
Remember realizing how important it was while watching live.
RE: Webster's turnaround was nothing short of remarkable.  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/1/2020 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14856733 j_rud said:
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I dont think it gets the attention it deserves. I remember reading that he just didnt mesh with Tim Lewis and that he lost his confidence. Spags and Dave Merritt did an incredible job getting him back on track. Webster was a vital contributor to both of those SBs. While the pass rush gets the bulk of the credit, and understandably so, I dont think the 2007 season can end the way it did if Webster doesnt go from healthy scratch to mirroring opposing offenses #1's in a matter of 12 weeks.


This is really one of the most fascinating aspects of pro football; sometimes the lightbulb just comes on. Like for Toomer 1999. He said something like "I just knew I had to leave it all out on the field every single play or I'd be out of the league." It's totally mental.

Another example is Tuck in the last few games of 2011 and the playoffs, earlier in the yar he said injuries were dogging him and he was down on himself, but then he changed his mindset and was key to the Giants late run and playoff dominance.
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Setting the Tone Didnt Jacobs light him up on the first play?  
rocco8112 : 4/1/2020 9:34 pm : link
He obliterated him in the cold temps too. Hope we get physical play back for big blue soon.

Let Woodson tell you about it in his own words

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Seriously, I was out for a second after we made contact. Then I hit the ground and woke up. I remember being on the ground and one of my teammates was like, "Wood! Wood! You all right?!" I was shook -- really I was. I played the rest of the game, but I was out of it. That's a big regret for me, not going and hitting that guy low. That was a ROUGH day from then on out.
Until that tyree catch in the SB  
Scyber : 4/1/2020 10:07 pm : link
I thought Antonio's tackle in the NFC Championship would be the best play of the postseason. That play was just incredible.
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