Trade down to 5 or 6 and pickup and extra 2nd at a minimum.
1. Jedrick Wills - OT
2a. Ceasar Ruiz - C
2b. Top EDGE/LB/FS on the board
In this scenario, we solidify the o-line and add a nice piece to the defense. The Giants are still a year or two away, but this positions them extremely well for the future.
I am curious to hear everyone's take on Wills.
I am convinced he is the best tackle in this draft. He has incredible body control, moves his hips well, has sticky hands, is athletic (tested off the charts), gets downfield well, and has a really high football IQ. He's a surefire a prospect as they come, in my opinion. I don't care if he stays at RT or eventually transitions over to LT. He should be the guy.
Andrew Thomas is the second best tackle in this draft. He's a monster in the run game but lacks at times in pass protection. Has some mechanical issues that can be worked out. Wills and Thomas are in a class of their own. I'd be happy with either.
Wirfs has big-time upside but is sloppy and doesn't play to his size and strength. While I think he can make it as a starting tackle, he is probably best suited to play guard.
Becton is a mammoth but nothing more than a project at this point.
Many scouts have said they view Ruiz as a better NFL Guard. Would be kind of crappy to take him early on as your C option if he doesn’t pan out. Would be a lot happier if Wirfs was drafted and moved to Guard in a few years vs Ruiz being drafted as a C to have to move to Guard. Hennessy has been compared to Jason Kelce, would love that as the future C.
Last thing. If NYG gain an extra round 2 pick, it wouldn’t be awful if they decided OT, WR ala Pittman who is tall and can be a 1 WR on this team or Claypool who could be a big bodied TE/WR and C in the first 3 picks. Yes the D does need help but Shep has concussion concerns, 1 more he definitely needs to retire, Tate is a very good slot receiver at this point and Slayton was a 5th round rookie who had a very good season. NYG do need another outside weapon especially to help DJ and Barkley.
Any one of the top 4 OTs would start for NYG Day 1.
That's fair. I'm assuming 2b is 1 to 2 picks after 2a.
If I'm wrong and a team like Miami, LAC or Carolina does trade up for Tua, it's far more likely that they trade with Detroit at 3.
For the Giants to be able to trade down it almost has to mean that teams are willing to trade up to 3/4 for two of these three players (Tua, Herbert and Simmons).
Combine all that with the fact that DG has never traded down and I think the Giants stay at 4 and take either Simmons or their top OT.
Solder and Flemming will be more trusted by the coaches more then any of the rookies, at least in the beginning.
When asked where Wirfs should play in the NFL, his Iowa coach Kirk Frentz, who is widely respected as an OL coach, did not hesitate and said LT.
I just think some of the narratives have acquired legs for no legitimate reason.
When asked where Wirfs should play in the NFL, his Iowa coach Kirk Frentz, who is widely respected as an OL coach, did not hesitate and said LT.
I just think some of the narratives have acquired legs for no legitimate reason.
I'm hoping that we can swap something like 4/36/110 for 5/18/56.
-Smmons
-maybe we get lucky with a top 4 OT fall, but more likely a Josh Jones
-Then take the best C at 56
2. Denzel Mims/Tee Higgins
Trade up in the 3rd. Tyler Biadasz
Wirfs went to Iowa as a tackle. Ferentz figured it could be on either side. It became both sides, but mostly on the right, and not because he wouldn’t have been (in Ferentz’s mind) just as good on the left.
“I would play him at left tackle if I was still in the NFL,” Ferentz said. “Maybe that’s why I’m not, but that’s where I’d play him. Tackles are such a valuable commodity ... at any level.”
Ferentz explained why Wirfs’ regular spot at Iowa became right tackle.
The Hawkeyes prepared for their 2017 season with two bright prospects at tackle, but neither slated to start. One was Alaric Jackson, who got to Iowa a year before Wirfs and took a redshirt in 2016.
Both Iowa starting tackles got hurt early in ’17. Jackson, who wound up making second team All-Big Ten in 2019, had been with the program longer and got first shot at left tackle.
Ferentz is good at recruiting and developing offensive linemen and prefers not to use kids fresh out of high school, but when the right tackle job soon came open, Wirfs plugged in and played most of the season, emerging as Ferentz’s first true freshman to start in the offensive trenches.
Wirfs wound up playing three games at left tackle in 2019 when Jackson was hurt.
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Talk is cheap.
i listened to something that sid they tried but alairic jackson was horrible on the right side
Solder and Flemming will be more trusted by the coaches more then any of the rookies, at least in the beginning.
Fleming's contract looks an awful lot like that of a swing backup.
Of course the rookie would have to unseat him. In the case of Wills I think he would sooner rather than later.
While I know the this draft is deep with OL, we need to face facts...this NYG defense cannot pressure the QB and Simmons “may” be the edge rusher we need. A guy who can both blitz AND cover...something even LT couldn’t even do.
In the past few seasons, how many games have been lost by this porous defense? How many times has this defense given opposing QBs eons in the pocket?? If the Giants are to be competitive, 2020 needs to be the year of a defensive-weighted draft. We can’t just signed a named FA Edge rusher, as this team is way to far from making the playoffs at this point.