Giants
Lombardo NJ.com: Giants meeting coronavirus challenge like many of you are, as offseason program set to begin
https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/04/giants-meeting-coronavirus-challenge-like-many-of-you-are-as-offseason-program-set-to-begin.html
Traina Locked on Giants Podcast: On today's podcast, @MattMoscona of @lockedonlsu joins the program to give the lowdown on the LSU draft prospects (Audio)
https://dcs.megaphone.fm/LKN9292468207.mp3?key=69c1dab39448771a5e0ee1d5c369d7ca
QB
Eisen Giants.com: Colt McCoy eager to work with Daniel Jones
https://www.giants.com/news/colt-mccoy-daniel-jones-joe-judge-quarterback-jason-garrett-nfl-free-agency
Schwartz NYP: Giants’ Colt McCoy has Daniel Jones’ back during messy times
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/giants-colt-mccoy-has-daniel-jones-back-during-messy-times/amp/
Stapleton The Record: Colt McCoy: What new NY Giants QB shared about his signing, role as Daniel Jones' backup
https://amp.app.com/amp/5103279002}
Traina SI.com: Why Jason Garrett's Player-to-Coach Transition Inspires Colt McCoy
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/why-jason-garrett-player-to-coach-transition-inspires-colt-mccoy
RB
Schwartz NYP: When Giants could look for Saquon Barkley backup in 2020 NFL Draft
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/when-giants-could-look-for-saquon-barkley-backup-in-2020-nfl-draft/amp/
TE
Eisen Giants.com: Super Bowl heartaches drive TE Levine Toilolo
https://www.giants.com/news/levine-toilolo-super-bowl-li-liv-san-francisco-49ers-atlanta-falcons-stanford
Traina SI.com: For the Giants to One Day Be Super, It Needs to Be All About Team
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/for-the-giants-to-be-super-it-needs-to-be-all-about-team
RT
Schmeelk Giants.com: Film Study: How OT Cam Fleming fits Giants
https://www.giants.com/news/cam-fleming-dallas-cowboys-giants-scheme-nfl-free-agency-2020
C
Rosenblatt NJ.com: Why haven’t Giants made a move yet to upgrade center? Possible reasons (Spencer Pulley?), solutions (NFL Draft?) and potential targets
https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/04/why-havent-giants-made-a-move-yet-to-upgrade-center-possible-reasons-spencer-pulley-solutions-nfl-draft-and-potential-targets.html
Edge/OLB
Raanan ESPN NY: Giants need pass-rush help, but Markus Golden unlikely to return
“It certainly doesn't appear the Giants were an option at anywhere near that asking price. And New York signed outside linebacker Kyler Fackrell for one year and $4.6 million. The Giants' plan from there was to add another pass-rusher at a lower price point than Golden desired. It seems unlikely Golden and the Giants will be a financial fit this offseason.
So Golden is expected to be patient in his second crack at free agency.
"The $10 million is gone. Don't think he's getting [$8 million]. But it won't be too far off," said another source with knowledge of the NFL's market for edge rushers.”
https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/60595/giants-need-pass-rush-help-but-markus-golden-unlikely-to-return?
RV SNY: RV SNY: Everything we know about the Jets and Giants' interest in free agent Jadeveon Clowney
“Many teams -- the Giants included, per sources -- are very wary of making a big-money commitment to a player with that kind of injury history. Presumably that has factored into the Jets' thinking as well.
Could Clowney's price drop far enough to change the thinking of either team? That's certainly always possible. But if his asking price really is $17-18 million, he might have to nearly cut that in half to draw the New York teams in. Even then, the Giants probably wouldn't have the cap room to sign him unless they rescinded the $16.1 million franchise tag from Leonard Williams -- something they are not intending to do, according to a source.”
Also noted in here that teams believe the Jaguars are beginning discussions for a trade of Yannick Ngakoue at a first round pick, plus more.
https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/everything-we-know-about-the-jets-and-giants-interest-in-free-agent-jadeveon-clowney/313196826
ST
Leonard NYDN: Nate Ebner provides early example of new ‘Patriot Way’ in Giants locker room
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-nate-ebner-patriots-20200401-se6xpmsbpfa65kdsu7hteqhyii-story.html
LS
Eisen Giants.com: Giants sign long snapper Casey Kreiter
https://www.giants.com/news/casey-kreiter-long-snapper-sign-free-agency-nfl-2020-denver-broncos
Leonard NYDN: Giants sign long-snapper Casey Kreiter as Zak DeOssie’s 13-year run likely up
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-casey-kreiter-zak-deossie-long-snapper-free-agency-aldrick-rosas-20200401-twxmzsyaovcnbmsuku23s2qedy-story.html
NFL
Barnwell ESPN: 2020 NFL free-agency lessons: What happened to the record-setting deals?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28982519/2020-nfl-free-agency-lessons-happened-record-setting-deals
Corry CBS Sports.com: Agent's Take: Inside the financials behind 2020 NFL free agency's biggest deals
“James Bradberry, CB, Giants
Contract value: $43.5 million for three years ($14.5 million per year average)
Contract guarantees: $31.9 million ($9 million as signing bonus)
Fully guaranteed at signing: $29.9 million
Earliest realistic exit point: 2022 ($30 million earned)
Conventional wisdom suggested that Bradberry would rejoin former Panthers head coach Ron Rivera with the Redskins. He landed with another one of his connections. Giants general manager Dave Gettleman selected Bradberry in the second round of the 2016 draft when he was running the Panthers”
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-inside-the-financials-behind-2020-nfl-free-agencys-biggest-deals/
Renner PFF: Average of the top-10 contract $APY by position for 2020 (good barometer for positional value in draft):
QB: $32.0m
RB: $9.2m
WR: $18.0m
TE: $8.6m
OT: $15.4m
IOL: $12.8m
DT: $17.4m
EDGE: $18.9m
LB: $13.9m
CB: $14.5m
S: $12.6m
K: $4.3m
P: $3.1m
LS: $1.2m
Yates ESPN: From impact players to situational veterans, there are plenty of available pass rushers still:
▪️Jadeveon Clowney
▪️Markus Golden
▪️Everson Griffen
▪️Clay Matthews
▪️Michael Bennett
▪️Terrell Suggs
▪️Cameron Wake
▪️Jabaal Sheard
▪️Vinny Curry
ARIZONA
McManaman AZ Central: Arizona Cardinals' Justin Murray signs exclusive rights tender with team
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2020/04/02/arizona-cardinals-justin-murray-signs-exclusive-rights-tender/5113675002/
ATLANTA
Ledbetter AJC: On Khari Lee’s journey from Bowie State to the Falcons
https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/khari-lee-journey-from-bowie-state-atlanta/1K9O97ckkD0KWIR334upAM/
BALTIMORE
Shaffer Baltimore Sun: Ravens film study: How Calais Campbell and Derek Wolfe can bring ‘sack city’ to a middling pass rush
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/gameday/bs-sp-ravens-film-study-calais-campbell-derek-wolfe-20200401-3rtnw6jo3ff33czwhn52w7n74m-story.html
BUFFALO
Skurski Buffalo News: Josh Allen gets creative in offseason work, focusing on deep ball
https://buffalonews.com/2020/04/01/jordan-palmer-josh-allen-nfl-offseason-quarterback-buffalo-bills-skurski/
Skurski Buffalo News: Brandon Beane said he's treating Stefon Diggs as the #Bills' first-round pick. He added that the draft capital he moved in the deal would have only been enough to move him up about four spots in the draft -- not high enough in his mind to get a premier receiver.
CAROLINA
Newton ESPN Charlotte: Teddy Bridgewater's comeback 'represents hope' beyond Panthers
https://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/33509/back-in-the-race-teddy-bridgewater-represents-hope-to-panthers
CLEVELAND
Williams Cleveland Plain Dealer: Browns land a run-stopping defensive tackle in Andrew Billings, who will challenge for a starting spot -- Film review
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/04/browns-land-a-run-stopping-defensive-tackle-in-andrew-billings-who-will-challenge-for-a-starting-spot-film-review.html
DALLAS
Gehlken Dallas Morning News: Source: Cowboys reach 1-year deal with pass rusher Aldon Smith
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2020/04/02/cowboys-reach-one-year-deal-with-lb-aldon-smith/
DENVER
O’Halloran Denver Post: Broncos Draft Board: Iowa’s A.J. Epenesa would bring pass-rush production and potential versatility
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/01/broncos-draft-board-aj-epenesa-iowa/
GREEN BAY
Owaczarski Mil JS: Wisconsin's Jonathan Taylor well-suited for Matt LaFleur's Packers offense
https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2020/04/02/wisconsins-jonathan-taylor-well-suited-matt-lafleurs-packers-offense/2928163001/
HOUSTON
McClain Houston Chronicle: Texans working from home, just like the rest of us
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/john-mcclain/article/McClain-Texans-working-from-home-just-like-the-15172909.php
LAS VEGAS
Bair NBC Bay Area: Why Nick Kwiatkoski thought Raiders were 'best fit' in NFL free agency
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/why-nick-kwiatkoski-thought-raiders-were-best-fit-nfl-free-agency
LOS ANGELES RAMS
Klein LA Times: Austin Blythe’s versatility makes him valuable commodity for Rams
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2020-04-01/austin-blythes-versatility-makes-him-valuable-commodity-for-rams
MIAMI
Deen Sun Sentinel: Dolphins likely to fill O-line needs based on QB they draft. Here’s how the best available tackles fit in Miami
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-draft-dolphins-deen-ol-20200401-jyolsxn4y5hqdaae7zqjljd5be-story.html
MINNESOTA
Tomasson Twincities.com: #Vikings need about $4.5 million to sign their draft picks so they have about $8.4 million of cap room for other stuff Along with other things they're still looking at some veteran cornerbacks, looking into a possible Dalvin Cook contract extension and will sign more minimum guys
NEW ENGLAND
Price Boston Globe: Bill Belichick’s message for surviving coronavirus: ‘Let’s keep stringing good days together’
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/01/sports/bill-belichicks-message-surviving-coronavirus-lets-keep-stringing-good-days-together/
Volin Boston Globe: Bill Belichick and the Patriots are always happy to let other teams pay their employees
“In 2018, the Patriots hired Bielema as a “consultant to the head coach” when he was fired after five seasons at Arkansas. Bielema’s agent is Neil Cornrich, who is also the agent for — you guessed it — Belichick.
Earlier in 2018, Arkansas’ Razorback Foundation negotiated a settlement with Bielema that would pay him $11.935 million over a three-year period ending in 2020. Per the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Bielema was an unpaid volunteer for the Patriots in 2018.
For the 2019 season, the Patriots promoted Bielema to defensive line coach, though it is not clear whether the Patriots paid him a salary. A legal dispute brewed last fall in which Arkansas stopped paying Bielema his monthly payments of $320,000 because it believed he had violated the settlement by not actively pursuing another job.
After spending two seasons in Foxborough — and winning a Super Bowl in 2018 — Bielema joined the Giants this offseason as their senior assistant and outside linebackers coach.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/01/sports/patriots-always-happy-let-other-teams-pay-their-employees/
Jim Nagy: During my time with Patriots, Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli came up with a grading scale that assigned a number value to draft prospects based on their projected role on our team. The scale was very specific. It forced scouts to get off the fence or just ballpark guys.
I recall BB saying, “What is a first-rounder? What does that even mean?” (Or something to that affect). This scale was based on a 3-year projection...What role will the player have by his third year in our system?
For example, scouts had to be definitive if a corner prospect was a No. 2 CB (all-downs starter), No. 3 CB (sub-downs starter), No. 4 CB with ST value, No. 4 CB w/out ST value, etc. Many teams, mostly from Belichick tree, are currently using some variation of this scale.
Daniels Providence Journal: Patriots cut QB Cody Kessler
https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20200401/patriots-cut-qb-cody-kessler
Daniels Providence Journal: These 5 DEs could be on Pats’ radar
https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20200401/these-5-des-could-be-on-patsrsquo-radar
McBride Boston Globe: Patriots took some hits at the linebacker position this offseason
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/01/sports/patriots-took-some-hits-linebacker-position-this-offseason/
NEW YORK JETS
Mehta NYDN: Joe Douglas says Jets looked into adding pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-jadeveon-clowney-20200401-kn3x7e4anvez3hpjpdlxr2raoq-story.html
PHILADELPHIA
Kempski Phillyvoice: A look at the likelihood of wide receivers being drafted before the Eagles' pick
https://www.phillyvoice.com/look-likelihood-wide-receivers-being-selected-20-draft-slots-eagles-pick/
PITTSBURGH
Batko Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Steelers mailbag: No, you should not mention Eric Ebron with Antonio Brown
Just because Eric Ebron speaks his mind and is very online doesn't mean Steelers fans should worry that he's the next organizational headache. Or at least that's my 2 cents
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2020/04/02/eric-ebron-pittsburgh-steelers-antonio-brown-mark-barron/stories/202004020127
SEATTLE
Josina Anderson: My understanding is, from Seattle's perspective, Jadeveon Clowney doesn't seem quite ready to make a decision but need to continue conducting business; thus deal to sign DE Benson Mayowa. I'm told move cd adjust budget for possible Clowney return. Team still thinks highly of him.
TAMPA BAY
Reid Florida Times Union: Former Jaguars QB Blaine Gabbert re-signs with Bucs to become Tom Brady’s backup
https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20200402/former-jaguars-qb-blaine-gabbert-re-signs-with-bucs-to-become-tom-bradys-backup
TENNESSEE
Bacharach The Tennessean: Titans, Derrick Henry working toward multiyear extension
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/04/01/derrick-henry-titans-contract-extension-franchise-tag/5102594002/
Davenport ESPN Nashville: Vrabel on Jadeveon Clowney: The health issue isn't for me to decide. When I coached him (w/Texans) he was prepared. We did a lot w/him and put him in different places to affect the game. He played extremely hard. We asked him to do a lot and he did a lot for us
WASHINGTON
Bullock The Athletic: I think they’re drafting Chase Young regardless of scheme, unless they get an offer like all of Miami’s firsts this year and next, which I very much doubt is coming. I think it would be the right decision too. Young is so good
Yes he is [Young is better than Simmons] I like Isaiah Simmons. He has some rare traits and could become one of the best coverage defenders in the NFL. But there's still a projection there and he needs the right coaching. Young is more refined at this stage and still has a higher ceiling in terms of potential
Colleges/Draft
Zenitz Alabama.com: NFL evaluators share thoughts on Tua Tagovailoa, other Alabama draft prospects
“Tua Tagovailoa
While it’s still very much a possibility that Tagovailoa will end up being a top-five draft pick, that doesn’t seem to be a sure thing at this point.
At least some NFL evaluators rank Oregon’s Justin Herbert ahead of Tagovailoa. There are even some who view Utah State’s Jordan Love as a better prospect.
“I have it Burrow, Herbert, Love and then Tua is 4,” a longtime NFL evaluator said.
At the Senior Bowl in late January, the 6-foot-6, 235-pound Herbert was selected as both the overall practice player of the week and the MVP of the actual Senior Bowl game.
Herbert threw for 3,471 yards with 32 touchdown passes and only six interceptions as a senior at Oregon last season.
“Forget the injury with Tua. I just think Herbert’s the better prospect,” that longtime evaluator said. “The more I watched him, the more I liked him. The more I watched Tua, the less I liked him. He played with way better people than the people he was lining up against in most cases. … I think he’s going to be a good player. I think there are five guys in this draft that can be winning starting quarterbacks. I think Tua’s one of them. But I don’t think he’s a slam dunk franchise quarterback. I think he can win games and can be a good player. I don’t see a superstar.”
“Justin Herbert is probably cleaner (as a prospect than Tua) and probably more upside truth be told,” another longtime NFL evaluator said. “Some people feel like Tua’s kind of maxed out. There are definitely some negatives with Tua, including that he’s small and that he’s been hurt. And it’s tricky now when you get into these medicals. I know he’s moving around and doing the videos, but doing a workout’s a lot different than playing NFL football.”
— The consensus seems to be that offensive tackle Jedrick Wills will likely go in the top 15 picks. Maybe even the top 10.
— Xavier McKinney appears to still be in position to be the first safety drafted. “Just by the nature of his position, I don’t think he’s top-15, but I do think he’s first round, back half of the first round,” an evaluator said. “I think he’s maintained his status through all this.”
— Outside linebacker Terrell Lewis is one other Alabama player who seems to have a decent chance of going at some point during the first three rounds. “He looks the part and was supposed to be the part but he never really played the part,” an evaluator said. “I think someone will roll the dice on him because of the lack of pass rushers in the draft. I don’t think he’s going in the first round, but he’s probably a second or third rounder. And if not, he’ll be a fourth rounder and people will be talking about what a steal he is.”
— Fellow outside linebacker Anfernee Jennings seems to be a fourth to fifth round type prospect.”
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2020/04/nfl-evaluators-share-thoughts-on-tua-tagovailoa-other-alabama-draft-prospects.html
Geoff Schwartz SB Nation: The 2020 NFL Draft will be different than any other. That hurts lesser-known prospects most of all
After talking to agents, scouts, and coaches, Geoff Schwartz outlines how the lack of pro days and pre-draft visits will affect some players more than others.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/1/21202058/nfl-draft-2020-changes-prospects-pro-days-medical-team-visits-scouts-film
Brandt NFL.com: Internet Q’s
About No. 16. My first 16 ranked players I have no qualms about seeing them as sure starters. From 17-60 are pretty much the same player. Some very good players in the second and third rounds
QB
Miami still wants Tua but it wouldn't surprise me if they took a position player first, then hope he slides. We don't have the medicals on Tua we normally would. Some think he could slide. When I saw him at combine jumping around at his medical testing he didn't look restricted.
My comparison to Love is Jay Cutler coming out of school. Both skill sets are very similar. Cutler's upside was off the charts but never fully realized. We will find out about Love.
All depends on who is available so I guess my answer is yes. I like Stidham and I know Belichick does too. That system Bill has works well with his skill set. Still want to see it happen in games, and I think he'll get his shot this year regardless if Patriots take a QB or not.
WR
Not sure who comes off first but I have them almost even, Lamb one ahead of Jeudy in my rankings.
Collin Johnson doesn't have top speed but has good NFL pedigree with his dad in the league for a long time. The receiver I really like there is Devin Duvernay (Kyler Murray's cousin), who ran a 4.39 at the combine and caught more than 100 passes last season.
TE
This is an interesting question only because we don't have a lot of info on the small-school guys that usually get drafted Day 3. One of the guys I really like who did have a PD was So. Illinois TE Nigel Kilby (6-7 5/8, 254). Ran a 4.69 40.
OT
Good-looking player [Cleveland]. Got to meet him personally when he was in Dallas here working out. Really was helped by the combine. Doesn't look strong, looks lean, but threw the bar up 30 times. I've got him in the first round because of his upside.
The HBCUs, as you well know, have a great reputation for supplying NFL talent. This year isn't exceptional but I do like Alex Taylor (6-8 3/8, 306, 36 1/8 arms) the OT from SC State who ran a 5.22 40 at the combine. Basketball player in HS. Still a little raw but has upside.
DE
I think Chase Young is locked in there, but they could be tempted with a trade. Rivera is a very proud coach and he will do anything to turn the program around. Chase is a player who can help do that for Dan Snyder, who desperately wants to win just like Ron does.
Brooks NFL.com: Top 5 Prospects w/ the highest ceilings
1. Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson
2. Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
3. Henry Ruggs, III, WR, Alabama
4. Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
5. K’Lavon Chassion, EDGE, LSU
Schrager NFL.com: Schrager mock draft 1.0: Fins go ALL IN on offense
4. Wills T Alabama
“School: Alabama | Year: Junior
Dave Gettleman's never traded his first selection in an NFL draft. If things shake out the way they do here, he'll be able to pick any of the top four offensive linemen in this year's class. Joe Judge has a history with Alabama's Nick Saban, who has spoken positively of Wills to coaches around the league. Multiple coaches have told me Wills is the guy who goes first.”
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107996/article/peter-schrager-nfl-mock-draft-10-dolphins-take-qb-wr-rb
QB
Wyche NFL.com: Tua Tagovailoa deems himself '100 percent'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108096/article/tua-tagovailoa-says-hes-100-percent-could-play-today
Pete Thamel: Sources: Graduate transfer quarterback Anthony Brown will choose Oregon for his final year of eligibility. He was a three-year starter at Boston College.
RB
Pflum BBV: 2020 NFL Draft prospect profile: JK Dobbins, RB, Ohio State
https://www.bigblueview.com/2020/4/2/21201440/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-jk-dobbins-rb-ohio-state-scouting-report-ny-giants
T
Zierlein NFL.com: When I've spoken with NFL people - especially OL coaches - at some point the topic turns to "How do you have the tackles?"
I've got:
1. J. Wills
2. M. Becton
T3. A. Thomas
T3. T. Wirfs
5. Josh Jones
T6. I. Wilson
T6. Austin Jackson
8. Ezra Cleveland
How do you have it?
Keep in mind that there isn't much that separates #5 and #8. I see them all in the same batch.
Cleveland: To me, his tape was a big problem. He had a toe injury that prevented him from redirecting his weight and kept him out of practice for most of the year. I actually raised his grade once I found out about the injury. Strength is still a concern. VG athlete.
I had Niang higher as well... just worried a little about the hip.
NFL People I’ve Spoken To: From my conversations, I think it goes -
Wills
Becton
Thomas
Wirfs
Wilson
A. Jackson
Cleveland
J. Jones (to guard)
Niang: If healthy, is a top 8 tackle. That means 2nd rounder. Worse case scenario 3rd rounder
Reid The Draft Network: IDENTIFYING THE NEXT TIER: 2020 OFFENSIVE TACKLES
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/identifying-the-next-tier--2020-offensive-tackles
Reid The Draft Network: A prospect who’s been very busy is LSU LT Saahdiq Charles. He’s had formal interviews with the Dolphins, Vikings, Chiefs, Redskins, and Packers, among many others. Many teams are doing their homework on him.
Edge
Edholm Yahoo Sports: 33. Penn State EDGE Yetur Gross-Matos
6-foot-5, 266 pounds
Yahoo Sports draft grade: 5.99
TL;DR scouting report: “Well-built, high-motor, productive rush talent who might not ever be a dominant NFL end
The skinny: A 4-star Rivals recruit (top 150 nationally), Gross-Matos turned down offers from schools such as Clemson and Alabama to sign with the Nittany Lions. He played in 13 games as a true freshman in 2017, mostly as a pass-rush specialist, making 17 tackles (two for loss) and 1.5 sacks.
In 2018, Gross-Matos was named third-team All-Big Ten and earned Penn State's Defensive Lineman of the Year award, making 54 tackles (20 for loss), eight sacks and two forced fumbles in 13 games. As a junior, Gross-Matos had 40 tackles (15 for loss) and 9.5 sacks and was named first-team all-conference.
Gross-Matos, who turned 22 in February, declared early for the 2020 NFL draft and attended the scouting combine. There he participated in the positional drills, bench press (20 reps), vertical jump (34 inches) and broad jump (120 inches).
Upside: Ideal frame for an edge defender — has the mass and reach to handle work inside and out. Extremely long wingspan (82 1/4 inches). Thick, side and strong base. Frame not yet maxed out suggesting he still has room to grow. Good explosive athleticism.
Really nice get-off as he times up snaps well and bursts off the line. Flexibility to bend around the edge. Transitions quickly on his countermoves. Nice change-of-direction ability to pivot in a jiffy. Tough to cut block, athletic enough to simply jump over or past it. Can accelerate through contact and keep on his rush trajectory. Opened eyes with smooth, fluid effort in the “hoop” drill at the combine — dipped and bent with ease.
Smells blood and finishes well when bearing down on the QB. Effective on twists and stunts. Watch Gross-Matos wrap all the way around, pinball off the guard and finish the sack against Purdue:
Worked at PSU with noted DL coach Sean Spencer, who left Penn State for the New York Giants in January, and also has spent time on his own with DL guru Sudan Ellington. Has some nice rush moves he’s developed — a really strong rip, an inside club and a stab-club. Works underneath blockers well and exposes their leverage weaknesses. Can work the outside arm of a tackle and then whip back underneath.
Surprisingly effective as interior rusher. Rips underneath slower guards and works creases for disruption. Can handle duties anywhere from a pass-rushing 3-technique to a 7-technique. Lined up on both sides of the line and kicked inside — even took snaps at nose tackle (see bowl game vs. Memphis).
High-motor rusher. Plays through the whistle. Earns sacks and tackles for loss on second effort. Showed up in big games — showcase performance vs. Ohio State (two sacks, nine tackles, 3.5 TFLs).
Downside: Doesn’t always maximize his gifts — still learning how to consistently overpower blockers. More of a finesse player for his size. Strength doesn’t always translate — doesn’t shock with his hands. Gives up inside hand position and gets stalemated.
Run fits are inconsistent. Makes a lot of backside plays but doesn’t keep contain consistently. Must improve at setting a harder edge and shedding blocks better. Watch as Minnesota OT Sam Schlueter is able to reach him and doesn’t even need the tight end’s help to crumple Gross-Matos on the end-around run:
Streaky — sacks tended to come in bunches and could go stretches without much production or disruption. Far more natural and effective rushing from the right side — spent the majority of his time on that side and didn't appear as impactful from the left edge.
Will be too herky-jerky as a rusher — arms and legs flying everywhere. Appears to try to oversell holding calls against him that aren’t always there. Looks annoyed at facing double teams at times. Gets too high in his attack and will be stood up. Rush plan appears predetermined — will be 101-level curriculum for seasoned NFL blockers.
Missed tackles came in bunches down the stretch last season. Has battled immaturity and accountability issues at time, resulting in some minor discipline at Penn State. He’s only a true junior, but Gross-Matos is old for his class.
Best-suited destination: At Penn State, Gross-Matos most often lined up in a four-point stance as right end (also left end) in a four-man front, occasionally kicking inside on passing downs. He should have a similar role in the NFL, but he also could be tried as a stand-up rusher in a 3-4 system.
Among the teams that could be interested in his services include the Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, Minnesota Vikings, Kansas City Chiefs, Atlanta Falcons, Dallas Cowboys, New York Jets, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Chicago Bears and Cincinnati Bengals.
Did you know: Tragedy struck Gross-Matos more than once. His father, Michael Gross, died in a boating accident while saving Gross-Matos from drowning when he was 2. And his older brother, Chelal, was hit by lightning during a baseball game and died when Gross-Matos was 11 and Chelal was 12.
The remainder of the family — mother, Skinah; stepfather, Robert Matos; brother, Robby; and sisters, Qeturah and Cristina — have bonded together as best they can since. Gross-Matos opened up about his two major personal losses at the combine, explaining how the experiences changed him.
“[NFL teams] just asked me about what’s the hardest thing I ever went through,” he said. “Obviously for me, that was losing my older brother at a young age — and my dad. Just dealing with that. I want to do something better for my family and my mother and that’s kind of how I approached it. That’s the reality of it.”
They said it: “It’s not a great class for pass rushers overall. [Gross-Matos] has a chance to be pretty good. But I don’t think he’ll ever be a great edge setter, great against the run.”
— AFC senior college scout
Player comp: Ziggy Ansah
Expected draft range: Top-40 pick.”
https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-top-2020-nfl-draft-prospects-no-33-penn-state-edge-yetur-gross-matos-132346391.html
Jeremiah NFL.com: Tennessee edge rusher Darrell Taylor has been dealing with an injury (DNP Sr Bowl, no workout at combine) but he is very gifted. Watch him bend/corner/finish.
Stapleton The Record: I like Taylor as someone to watch for the Giants. Easy to connect the dots with Kevin Sherrer, and now the added bonus of Craig Fitzgerald as strength and conditioning coach from the Vols.
No Pro Days, visits for medical checks, etc. NYG may have more info than most on him.
LB
NFL Film Review
@NFLFilmReview
Thread on Isaiah Simmons:
Simmons is redefines being a "position-less player". Lining up at ILB, OLB, Slot, Safety and even the DE, Simmons is able to use his rare size and athleticism to be versatile in his usage and allow defenses to disguise their tendencies
Simmons is lined up at the SAM LB position. He is the perfect player to defend the read option concept that Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have revitalized. Simmons is able to read the exchange and make the open field tackle.
Isaiah Simmons is how you can neutralize the athleticism of players like Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson.
As a QB spy, he has the 4.39 speed to chase down on mobile QB's as the escape the pocket.
Simmons is an absolute wrecking ball blitzing from any position.
His closing speed is ridiculous. Nearly impossible to beat Simmons out to the edge.
Simmons is not just athlete, he has great instincts and football IQ. He sniffs out this boot leg at the goal line on 3rd down, preventing the TD.
Against the run, Simmons can run sideline to sideline and has a good judgement of pursuit angles.
You can trust Isaiah Simmons as the last man standing at safety. He is a very sure-handed tackler.
Simmons has the length to disrupt throwing lanes.
This is another QB spy, but I've never seen a linebacker (or whatever position he plays) with this much burst.
It is crazy how many different roles and techniques Simmons is able to do.
Watch on this play, how he is able to dip and bend like a pass rush to sack the QB.
Isaiah Simmons is really capable of lining up at all three levels.
Simmons has a good feel in zone coverage and does a great job of reading the QB's eyes.
From the middle safety position, Isaiah Simmons is able to cover so much ground with his speed.
However, he does still have coverage mishaps from time to time. I think his weakest position would be at a free safety position
His man coverage skills are great too. He stays glued to the TE on this play, but needs to turn his back to make a play on the ball.
Simmons is big enough to cover TE's and fast enough to cover smaller/shiftiest slot WR's.
He did a great job of defending Thaddeus Moss in the Championship game. Does a great job a break on the ball to force the incompletion.
Simmons has pretty fluid hips out in coverage. Stays glued to Moss again here.
I've literally never seen a player like Isaiah Simmons. For this thread, I really tried to look critically at Simmons, but ultimately it felt like I was nitpicking and doing a disservice to him as a prospect.
Especially while scouting Simmons, you need to look at all the things that he can do for you rather than the stuff he can't (which is like nothing) to fully maximize his skillset. Honestly, you can line him up anywhere and he could excel just with his athleticism alone.
NFL Comp: Tyrann Mathieu/Ryan Shazier in Julio Jones' body
CB
Edholm Yahoo Sports: 32. TCU CB Jeff Gladney
5-foot-10, 191 pounds
Yahoo Sports draft grade: 5.99
TL;DR scouting report: “Feisty, aggressive and undersized corner who will upgrade a secondary, even with struggles vs. bigger receivers
The skinny: A 3-star Rivals recruit, Gladney was being wooed by the likes of North Texas, Rice, Tulsa and UTSA as a wide receiver before TCU became his choice. Gladney redshirted in 2015, then started eight of the 12 games he played in 2016, making 46 tackles and six pass breakups.
In 2017, Gladney played in 13 games (11 starts) and made 28 tackles, two interceptions (one run back for an 84-yard score) and five pass breakups, being named honorable mention All-Big 12. The next season, he was named second-team all-conference, with 41 tackles (four for losses), two interceptions and 13 pass breakups.
Then in 2019, Gladney bumped up to first-team all-Big 12 mention after posting 31 tackles (1.5 for loss), one interception and a conference-best 14 passes defended in 12 starts.
Gladney, who turns 24 years old in December, pulled out of the Senior Bowl with a sore knee but was able to compete at the NFL scouting combine (except for passing on the shuttle drills) and complete all the athletic testing drills and on-field work.
Upside: Highly competitive, physical and aggressive cover man. Feisty, scrappy and fearless — never backs down from a challenge. Takes pride in facing opponents’ best receiver, no matter their size or skill — often was asked to shut down WR1 and more often than not got the job done.
Plays bigger than his size. Tackles very well and isn’t afraid to get his nose dirty — brings some pop to the party. Willing run supporter who fights through receivers’ blocks and does his job. Press-man skills — envelopes receivers at the line and reroutes effectively. Good arm length (31 7/8 inches). Knocks down receivers’ hands at the line and dictates the action. Reportedly squats 620 pounds, benches 400 and cleans 400.
Can turn and stick with vertical receivers. Fluid athleticism — explosiveness and flexibility are both plus traits. Good mirror skills with his foot quickness in man coverage — pitter-patter feet. Always seems to be around the ball, even on downfield passes.
Active hands — deflected more than one pass per game in college (43 in 42 contests). Allowed only 10 catches on 31 pass attempts in 10 games in 2019 outside of Baylor and Texas contests (see Downside for context of this statistic).
Pitched several shutouts — Oklahoma didn’t really even look his way in the second half (missed first half because of targeting call week prior). One of the best 2020 CB tapes we watched was Gladney’s 2018 game against Oklahoma State — allowed only one catch on 11 targets and deflected five passes. Received great weekly tests in practice past few years against TCU teammate, WR Jalen Reagor.
Shows some good zone instincts, too. Gives space to bait quarterbacks and closes fast. Good peripheral vision to spy receivers flooding his area and reacts quickly. Watch this play against Purdue where Gladney (No. 12) has his eyes in the backfield and immediately spots the flea flicker, turns, runs and makes the heads-up play to make the interception 15 yards downfield:
Extremely tough — played through pain and gave max effort on weekly basis. Bothered by a foot injury in the second half of the 2018 season but played some of his best ball at that point. Committed in the weight room. Accountable and mentally strong. Took young DBs under his wing past few seasons and was considered a team leader.
Downside: Size is prohibitive. Small tackling radius will show up at times. Ran disappointing 40-yard dash (4.48 seconds) after being timed in the 4.3s at TCU and might not quite have the makeup speed to recover when beat against NFL receivers. Also turned in shockingly slow 3-cone drill (7.26) that puts him in the bottom 10th percentile among all combine corners since 1999 — not what you want to see in a smaller corner.
Wasn’t able to contain bigger receivers such as Baylor’s Denzel Mims and Texas’ Collin Johnson — made plays against both but also gave up several passes in each matchup. Struggled to match their length and physicality at times — press coverage was just shrugged off at times. Also was stung a few times
Watch here as the 6-foot-6 Johnson crosses Gladney’s face, executes a little swim move to get free and even breaks the tackle attempt:
Pushes the envelope for what is allowed, contact-wise. Flagged for seven penalties last season, including three pass interferences, one hold, one unsportsmanlike conduct and one targeting call that got him ejected from the Texas Tech game. Also had several more handsy plays where he could have been flagged but wasn’t. Can’t be so overt with it — gets grabby way downfield and won’t get away with that as consistently in the NFL.
Not much slot experience — only a handful of inside snaps per game. Hands are just OK — times up deflections well but should have come up with more picks on catchable passes. Still learning pattern recognition and will gamble unnecessarily, squatting hard on short stuff.
Best-suited destination: Any secondary looking to add a dose of toughness to its room would want Gladney on its roster. His size is always going to be a limiting factor against bigger matchups, but we still believe his best home in the NFL will be in an outside role, perhaps for a defense that plays a lot of two-deep (man and zone) coverage.
Among the teams we could see being interested in Gladney’s services include the San Francisco 49ers, Denver Broncos, Miami Dolphins, Oakland Raiders, Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles, Detroit Lions, Tennessee Titans and Minnesota Vikings.
Did you know: Gladney had started 29 consecutive games at TCU heading into the Horned Frogs’ matchup with Oklahoma State this past season. Then on the first snap of the game, Gladney was on the sideline and freshman Kee’yon Stewart got the start instead.
What happened? Discipline? Injury? Missing helmet?
No, it turns out that Gladney had a “uniform issue” that prevented him from being out there. He came in on the second defensive snap and played the rest of the way.
It turns out that the officials deemed that Gladney’s undershirt beneath his uniform was too long. A few other TCU players had the same issue during that contest.
And in Gladney’s case, it cost him a chance to add to his impressive mark — of course, that streak was destined to fall eventually, as Gladney was hit with a targeting call three games later and would have to sit out the first half of the Oklahoma game.
They said it: “I feel like that's the best corner in this draft. He's very underrated, but ... that's what made me the receiver I am today, just going up against him since I was a freshman. It's good to go up against a great player every day.”
— Reagor on Gladney at the combine
Player comp: Jaire Alexander
Expected draft range: Top-40 pick, possibly even cracking the top 20”
https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-top-2020-nfl-draft-prospects-no-32-tcu-cb-jeff-gladney-170731411.html
Pflum BBV: 2020 NFL Draft prospect profile: Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
https://www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2020/4/1/21199831/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-bryce-hall-cb-virginia-scouting-report-ny-giants
S
Yates ESPN: Alabama S Xavier McKinney's snaps by alignment in 2019:
S: 393
CB: 166
ILB: 120
OLB: 113
Stats: 95 tackles, 4 FF, 3 INT, 3 sacks
Excellent leadership, versatility and communication skills. A ready-made fit for almost any NFL defense.
Former Giants News
Thompson SI.com: Where Are They Now? Running Back Orleans Darkwa Makes E-Sports Debut in NBA 2KL Three for All Showdown
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/where-are-they-now-running-back-orleans-darkwa-makes-e-sports-debut-in-nba-2kl-three-for-all-showdown
History
Smith ABH: It’s a shame that service academy football has lost its high regard
https://www.onlineathens.com/sports/20200402/loran-smith-its-shame-that-service-academy-football-has-lost-its-high-regard
Giants Birthdays 4-02
John Brandes TE/LS W-WAS 1992 NYG 1992 4-02-1964
Jim O’Bradovich TE D7-USC 1975 NYG 1975 4-02-1953
1976 Profile: Jim Obradovich
Tight End
No. 89
USC
"The 7th round choice last year, Obradovich earned his spurs in fine fashion during his rookie season, appearing in all 14 games, both as a member of the special teams and as the backup tight end in all short yardage situations. Nicknamed both 'O.B.' and 'Buffy,' Obradovich had one start- against the 49ers- and responded with four receptions for 52 yards. All told, Jim had seven receptions on the season for 65 yards and a touchdown against the Redskins.
A solid blocker, he has good hands and is a tough competitor. Those qualities stood out in all of his activity with the special teams.
O.B. began his collegiate career at El Camino Junior College, winning All-American Junior College honors before entering USC where he started for two seasons. He was named All-Pac 8 and caught the winning touchdown pass in the Rose Bowl win over Ohio State. Jim also won offensive MVP honors in the Senior Bowl and was named to the East-West Bowl.
James Robert Obradovich was born in Los Angeles and was a standout athlete at El Segundo (CA) High School. He still resides in the Golden State during the off-season."
-1976 New York Giants Media Guide
Jerry Reynolds T/G/C W-DAL 1996 NYG 1996-1998 4-02-1970
In Memoriam
Arnie Herber QB GB retired 1940 Signed my NYG 1944 NYG 1944-1945 Born 4-02-1910 Died 10-14-1969
Willis PFJ: The Top Quarterbacks Pre-WWII
“4) Arnie Herber (1930-1940, 1944-1945) A stocky, powerful passer, the 5-11, 203-pound Herber played 13 NFL seasons with the Giants, but mostly with the Packers (11 years). Because of short fingers and pudgy hands Herber gripped the ball with his thumb over the laces, helped him throw long passes without a wiggle. Mainly throwing out of a tailback spot in Lambeau’s Notre Dame box offense, Herber thrived in passing downfield. @Herber is the best long passer ever,” once said Curly Lambeau. He threw 81 career TD passes, including 31 that were 30-yards or more, at one point held all the NFL career passing marks, until Baugh passed him; career stats: attempts (1,175), completions (481), yards (8.041) and TDs (81). Helped the Packers win 2 NFL Championships, 1936, 1939, threw 4 TD passes in four career playoff games; including two in the 1936 game, a 21-6 victory over the Redskins. Named to NFL 1930s All-Decade Team; Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966; Named First-team All-Pro in 1932 by the NFL (HB) and UP; and in 1935 by Collyers; Second-team by NFL in 1935-1936; Collyers in 1932, 1936; and by GBPG in 1935, Honorable Mention by NFL in 1933 and 1937 and by the Football Writers in 1939. Elected to Packers Hall of Fame in 1972, durable player, played in 129 NFL games. Led the NFL in attempts, completions and TD passes 3 times, 1932, 1934 and 1936. He finished in top 5 in TD passes 9 times, elected to 1 Pro Bowl, 1939, not an effective runner, only 3 rushing TDs.
“Herber’s touchdown passes can be as demoralizing as a Ruthian home run. He has the uncanny knack of arching a long pass so that the receiver simply races to the spot, makes the catch and speeds on without breaking stride.” Clark Shaughnessy, on Herber.”
http://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-top-quarterbackspre-wwii.html
Quarterbacks to Hold the Career Passing Yards Record
Arnie Herber (11 years as record-holder)
The NFL didn’t maintain official tallies’ for non-scoring stats until 1932, so the original title holder is, by default, the leading passer from 1932.. That honor belongs to Packers legend Arnie Herber. A Green Bay native and Packers fan since childhood, Herber played football locally at the University of Wisconsin before transferring to the now defunct squad at Regis College in Colorado. Upon his return home, he worked as a clubhouse handyman for the Packers. In 1929, he received an invitation from coach Curly Lambeau to try out for the team at the young age of 20. He became one of the NFL’s most dynamic players and helped the Packers win two titles in his first two seasons. He was just 22 when the league began keeping statistics, and the numbers show a young man who was already the premier quarterback of the era.
If you want an example of how much the game has changed, note that Herber led the league in attempts and yards that season with 101 and 639, respectively. Given the spotty record-keeping of the antebellum NFL, it’s hard to know if he led the league the entire year or just finished the season on top. However, it’s likely he did lead the entire season, as he had the advantage of playing a September 18 game against the Cardinals a week before other teams saw any action. He also had the advantage of playing for one of just two teams that played in 14 games that year.1 He pushed the record to 6749 yards before his first retirement in 1940. In 1944, the New York Giants convinced him to come out of retirement to provide leadership to a deflated wartime roster. He added 1292 yards to his career total, but by that time his record had already fallen to the next man on the list.”
http://www.thegridfe.com/2016/03/09/1075/
PFB HOF
“Although the National Football League didn’t keep official statistics until 1932, Arnie Herber’s third season, there is ample evidence to support the popular contention that Herber was the league’s premier passer. That year, the Green Bay Packer quarterback won the league passing title, something he would do again in 1934 and 1936.
Arnie threw a touchdown pass to give the Packers a 7-0 victory in the first game of his rookie 1930 season. The Packers won NFL titles in both 1930 and 1931 and remained in a perpetual contending position throughout Herber's 11-year tenure. His passes were always a dominating factor but he could also run, catch passes, and punt with the very best.
The arrival of end Don Hutson in 1935 gave pro football its first lethal quarterback-receiver tandem. In Hutson’s second game in the NFL, against the Chicago Bears, he teamed with Herber for an 83-yard touchdown reception. In 1935, the Herber-to-Hutson duo connected 18 times for 420 yards and seven touchdowns. Although an injury in 1937 reduced his effectiveness some, the Herber-to-Hutson mystic continued until Herber retired in 1940.
With many players serving in the military during World War II, the New York Giants brought Herber out of retirement for two more years in 1944 and 1945. He then retired for good with the reputation of being pro football’s great long-distance passer.
Herber was a basketball and football star at Green Bay's West High School who sold game programs as a teenager so that he could see the Packers play. He eventually migrated to tiny Regis College in Denver, but he soon was back in Green Bay, where he worked as a handyman in the Packers’ clubhouse when coach Curly Lambeau decided to give the inexperienced player a tryout. For $75 a game, the Packers inherited the first pro quarterback who consistently used the forward pass with game-winning effectiveness.@
https://www.profootballhof.com/players/arnie-herber/
PFR:
“Arnie attended the University of Wisconsin as a freshman and then transferred to tiny Regis College in Denver, where Red Strader had visions of building a gridiron juggernaut. But the idea fizzled with the stock market crash and the depression that followed and Herber returned to Green Bay, where he became a handyman around the Packers clubhouse.
Lambeau, who himself was an above-average passer during his active NFL days of the 1920s, decided to give the 6-0, 200-pound Herber a try at quarterback because, among other things, he felt he might be a drawing card, a mighty important consideration in pro football’s earlier days. Curly agreed to pay Herber $75 a game. Herber didn’t complain. He was just happy to be a member of the 18-man squad.
In his very first game, he threw a touchdown pass to Lavern Dilweg to help the Packers to a 14-0 victory over the Chicago Cardinals. The Packers won the championship in Herber’s rookie season and again in his second season. While Herber’s passes were an important factor, he could do other things well, too. He could run, catch passes and punt with the best.
In one game in 1932 against the Staten Island Stapletons, Herber did all the punting, ran for 85- and 45- yard touchdowns and completed nine of 11 passes for three more six-pointers. Even though the Packers failed in their quest for a fourth straight championship, Herber made the all-NFL team.
Herber had a peculiar way of holding the ball. Handicapped by short fingers, he put his thumb over the laces to prevent the ball from wobbling and to assure plenty of spiraling action. Arnie’s passes quickly became noted for two qualities: distance and accuracy.
At the finish of one of their championship seasons, the Packers went to Hollywood to make a movie short. One sequence called for Herber to throw the ball from the 50-yard line and break a three-foot-square pane of glass which has been suspended from the crossbar between the goal posts. Arnie took a few warmup tosses and then, on his first attempt, hit the bulls-eye. But the director had failed to get the cameras rolling. He told Arnie he would have to do it again. Calmly on his very next toss, Herber duplicated the feat.
Arnie was with the Packers in an era when the quarterback was fair game, even after he threw the ball. This, added to the fact that he needed extra time for his receivers to get downfield for his long passes, meant that he took many fierce beatings. Yet in his early years with the Packers, he never wore a helmet.
During the 1937 season, Arnie suffered a leg injury that sharply reduced his effectiveness. In 1938, a new passer, Cecil Isbell from Purdue, began aIternating the quarterback chores with Herber. After the 1940 season, Arnie retired.
Four seasons later, the New York Giants, beset by the manpower problems of World War II, talked him into coming back. Arnie was 34 years old and had not thrown a football in three years when he reported to the Giants summer camp. He had so much surplus weight that newspaper writers described him as a “tub of lard.” But he went to work with fiery diligence and, by the start of the season, was down to his playing weight of 210 pounds.
In a game against the Eagles in that 1944 season, Herber completed five of six passes for 114 yards and two touchdowns in the last six minutes of the game to give the Giants a 21-21 tie. The Giants startled the sports world that season with a complete turn-about of fortunes that brought them an Eastern Division championship. A splendid defense that yielded only 75 points, a battering-ram fullback named Bill Pascal and one old man named Herber had made the New York victory possible. In the NFL title game against Arnie’s old team, the Packers, the Giants lost, 14-7.
The Giants slumped dismally in 1945, but Herber had his moments. The New Yorkers were trailing Philadelphia, 21-0, when Arnie entered the game in the third quarter. In the space of four minutes and 48 seconds, Herber exploded with three touchdown passes to an obscure end named Frank Liebel and then added a fourth to give the Giants a 28-21 victory. Playing in just the second half, Arnie completed 10 of 16 passes for 187 yards and the four touchdowns.
Since the season ended a week later, this big game proved to be the “last hurrah” for Herber, who hung up his spikes and returned home to Green Bay for good. Arnie left the active football scene with the reputation of being football’s greatest-ever long-distance passer.”
http://profootballresearchers.com/archives/Website_Files/Coffin_Corner/06-07-189.pdf 
