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blueblood'11 : 4/3/2020 5:06 pm
I want to thank you for taking the time to help me out. Maybe you should send me a bill. I know you can only go on what I tell you but it gave me a lot of peace of mind. Plus it is helping me better understand what's going on down there. For as much as running is such a big part of my life, I know, when I do try to get back to running, I'm going to be very reluctant because I've never an injury quite like this and it scared the hell out of me. I've had my share, as all runners do, and always bounce back. But this one got me thinking, are my running days over. Anyway, i will not tempt myself until I feel I'm fully healed.
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rmc3981 : 4/4/2020 4:19 pm : link
Hey, thank you for the "thank you". My pleasure. My partner at the office is an avid runner and a good one. He's 52 but last year ran a 2:37 full marathon. I came home one day and went into my garage and stood to the side of my treadmill, put it up to the speed he runs the 26 miles at and the motor was working so hard, it was like a jet engine taking off. Couldn't believe how fast a 2:37 marathon is. (my wife looked at me and said "why can't you do that :)"In December he fractured his cuboid and had to be immobilized for six weeks. He refused to be non weight bearing. He wore the boot and is back running without pain. You will get through this and do great. If you have any questions in the future don't hesitate. Wishing you all the best.
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blueblood'11 : 4/4/2020 7:04 pm : link
I looked that cuboid bone up on google. Wow. That looked nasty. Well, I came across, I wish I hadn't, accessory navicular bone syndrome. Is that something you are born with and could that part of my problem? If so why after all these years of running would it not have affected me sooner? Believe me when I say I have logged many many miles over the years. I'm looking into getting a boot. Well, I haven't told my wife what I was contemplating yet. You know how that goes. Anyway what are your thoughts on that.
An x ray....  
rmc3981 : 4/5/2020 8:54 am : link
will tell you whether or not you have an accessory navicular. Yes, it is congenital and you would have one on both left and right foot (bilaterally). It certainly could have gotten irritated from activity because it is a separate joint and the posterior tibial tendon inserts into it and, as such, excessive repetitive motion can irritate it. They have a tendency to stay symptomatic because, unlike your hand, its constantly going through trauma every step you take. I know that it is hard to get a film taken because so many offices are closed, as are radiology centers but you may have had one previously, and if you did, you may be able to pull it up on the portal of the place you had it.

Regarding obtaining CAM boot. If you feel like you can be compliant with it and wear it all times except sleeping, showering and driving (if its your right foot or you don't drive a manual), then pick one up on Amazon. If you want to try a sneaker that will take stress off of it, the Brooks Beast will do that. Make a goal of shutting it down as much as you can until, say, April 20th and then try a run (to tolerance) but only do 1/4 of your normal distance and see how it feels. If it isn't symptomatic, gradually increase. If it is, as soon as everything is back and running in the country, get the MRI. (btw: the accessory navicular is that round bone to the right.
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blueblood'11 : 4/5/2020 11:38 am : link
I notice that my regular running shoes , which I wear constantly eventually start to really irritate the area. Then when I take them off and walk around barefooted eventually, of all things, it settles down to the point where I wouldn't even know anything is wrong. With regards to the CAM boot, since I don't have one, I improvised using a very comfortable winter boot that goes half way up my shin. It is flexible enough yet rigid enough to the point where it gives me support and holds me in and the foot and ankle stays somewhat mobilized. I walked around all morning so far and I think I'm going to try cutting my grass with it on. Does that sound crazy?
We're in quarantine...  
rmc3981 : 4/5/2020 12:35 pm : link
NOTHING'S crazy. :) (also, look at the outside of your running shoes. If the outsides by the heel are wearing down more than the inside, change them out)
A 2:37 marathon for a 52 year old?  
Marty866b : 4/5/2020 1:03 pm : link
That is beyond incredible!
Yes.... and he  
rmc3981 : 4/5/2020 1:10 pm : link
works a full schedule. Phenomenal runner, meh athlete :)
rmc  
blueblood'11 : 4/5/2020 1:41 pm : link
My daughter and her husband and her 5 month old newborn live in Hoboken. I don't know where located but I'm assuming you live somewhere in the vacinity. Yeah I'm very anal when it comes to my running shoes. I don't go very long before I change them out.
Ironically...  
rmc3981 : 4/5/2020 1:44 pm : link
I was born in Hoboken and moved to Freehold, NJ when I was three but my parents are both from Hoboken. I have lived in Tucson, Arizona for 35 years following my residency. Still have my parents in Freehold and and older brother in Pittstown.
Marty...  
rmc3981 : 4/5/2020 1:58 pm : link
regarding his 2:37, he was not quite 51 and, at the time, his time was only about 18 minutes off of world record pace. He has since had hip and foot problems. His 2:37 was his best marathon time. He ran a 2:41 when he was 45. Stunned even himself that he was older and actually faster.
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