growing belief is that there will be no sports until a vaccine is developed, although a full proof treatment might make playing without fans possible. But even playing with such a treatment is risky, especially given the transmissibility of the disease, and the expectation of a second wave in the fall.
I really don’t think this will happen. It seems so overwhelmingly impossible to think of people gathering in a few months right now but this has all happened so fast. I honestly believe it will turn the other way just as fast at some point. A lot is going to ride on antibody testing imo.
growing belief is that there will be no sports until a vaccine is developed, although a full proof treatment might make playing without fans possible. But even playing with such a treatment is risky, especially given the transmissibility of the disease, and the expectation of a second wave in the fall.
I doubt that. Why stop at sports then? Why not everything else non essential?
I agree it's a bit premature. We'll know more by Memorial Day, but the situation is dire right now. I'm not sure people will want to incur the risk.
Vince McMahon and the NASCAR commissioner are included.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
yes, it's this weekend, will be interesting to see if it is canceled, last I read it was still on.
It was all recorded 2 weeks ago in their Performance Center & a separate facility w/o any fans,so it's already to go,it won't be canceled. It's on tonight & tomorrow!
Is that it’s not just the players. Even with a skeleton crew you still have (often old) coaches, team staff, (often old) referees, etc. Andy Reid is 60+ and obese for example, he’s not going to be in great shape if he gets infected. You think the NFL wants senior staff dying to get some games on?
The medical aspect of this needs to take priority unfortunately. I want sports back badly but I don’t see it being realistic for a while.
Is that it’s not just the players. Even with a skeleton crew you still have (often old) coaches, team staff, (often old) referees, etc. Andy Reid is 60+ and obese for example, he’s not going to be in great shape if he gets infected. You think the NFL wants senior staff dying to get some games on?
The medical aspect of this needs to take priority unfortunately. I want sports back badly but I don’t see it being realistic for a while.
do you think the country is going to be shutdown for months and months? it is not going to happen..
i do think nba and nhl will cancel but people saying no soirts until 2021 is crazy..
there is going to come a point where we are just going to have start our lives back up and learn to live with this in the universe..
Like the whole world has shut down for fun and we’ll all call it a day soon. Humans are not in control of the situation if you haven’t noticed, there is a virus running wild around the globe. Life is not going to return to normal until we regain control. That could take a while, especially because we haven’t even agreed on the best way to approach it yet (hint: it’s not just saying “fuck it” and ignoring the virus).
Like the whole world has shut down for fun and we’ll all call it a day soon. Humans are not in control of the situation if you haven’t noticed, there is a virus running wild around the globe. Life is not going to return to normal until we regain control. That could take a while, especially because we haven’t even agreed on the best way to approach it yet (hint: it’s not just saying “fuck it” and ignoring the virus).
ok so we shutdown for 12 to 18 months until a vaccine is created, what is going to do more damage the virus or being shutdown for months?.
I am not even saying this is not serious, it is very serious, and j am not even saying ok time to go back to normal is now or maybe even a month from now, but saying we have to wait for a vaccine is nkt going to happen
I saw a post on the Golf Channel’s Facebook page that rumors are the PGA will resume in June and they’ll get all 4 majors in. The PGA Championship being the first one. Ending with the Masters the 2nd week in November.
I think you can ply golf and keep social distance an precautions.
Basketball is at the other end of the spectrum (right next to wrestling).
Bob Papa said the other day on his show a PGA tour exec told him that there is no way they can financially hold a tour event without the revenue they get from crowd attendance
Rapid, accurate testing and a widely accepted and enforced set of guidelines for infected people would be a great starting point. That’s probably the minimum requirement for getting back to normal.
and a new spike in sickness and death results from the crowds it would entail. They would go over well right? It will scare people 3 times as much as we are now. The reality is Virus 1 mankind 0. Until we can change that score, life as we’ve known it is screwed. Wishful thinking doesn’t change that.
and a new spike in sickness and death results from the crowds it would entail. They would go over well right? It will scare people 3 times as much as we are now. The reality is Virus 1 mankind 0. Until we can change that score, life as we’ve known it is screwed. Wishful thinking doesn’t change that.
So what is your solution? If enough people have antibodies it will eventually die off..
Secondly if a second surge were to hapoen it would not be nearly as bad because we would be much better oreoared for it plus the hardest hit areas like new york and new jersey would not surge because the virus would not spread as easily...
Like the whole world has shut down for fun and we’ll all call it a day soon. Humans are not in control of the situation if you haven’t noticed, there is a virus running wild around the globe. Life is not going to return to normal until we regain control. That could take a while, especially because we haven’t even agreed on the best way to approach it yet (hint: it’s not just saying “fuck it” and ignoring the virus).
Well, Humans aren't really in control of a whole lot of anything on this planet. I am of the crowd that thinks if we go too far in trying to "control" this disease, we're going to do more damage than good.
I see the current plan of self isolation lasting until Memorial Day. If the country is told "you know, we gotta keep doing this for another x amount of months..." people are going to say "f it" and go back to work, and out to dinner, etc...
I think we will see some sort of Sports this year not until the summer with No fans or major restrictions at stadiums.
You cannot keep the country on lock down for months and months. This has nothing to do with the Fucking stock market, but people need to work and bring in income ,states and local municipalities need to collect Taxes to function.
With the so called stimulus we will be ok for two months but after that the Government cant just keep printing money,
Start Incrementality with the healthiest maybe ages 19 -40 keep the people most at risk under quarantine.
The President has repeatedly suggested reopening the economy. This might be about how to reopen, when and under what circumstances.
I agree. They will figure something out, there’s many ways they can make it work. Most of the solutions will be no fans, and that’s fine for a while.
Exactly. I'd be happy watching sports with no fans for a period of time. I'd be happy watching anything besides the paint dry in my home office. This is brutal. Let's start working towards some sort of normalcy.
So all sports are def feasible it’s whether you want
For players - you take the abbot test 2 hours before every game. If a player tests positive they cannot play. You have stipulations in place if a whole team has to go on quarantine and forfeiture processes etc.
You have every player take an antibody test as well so you know who has been exposed already and who hasn’t and you take necessary precautions.
For stadiums you essentially need to start to get ahead of this thing and see where new infections are come June 1 and more importantly start to administer mass antibody testing so that we have an understanding for who (likely) has immunity until a vaccine is in play. Once you start to have that number you can evaluate second surges and the like.
In a conference call with major league sports commissioners on Saturday, President Donald Trump said he believes the NFL season should start on time in September, sources familiar with the call told ESPN. Link - ( New Window )
What about players and coaches? Do we say "screw em", we don't care if they are safe or not! We just need our sports! The "right" decision is no sports until Everyone can be protected, whether its 1 month, 6 months a year or never!
What about players and coaches? Do we say "screw em", we don't care if they are safe or not! We just need our sports! The "right" decision is no sports until Everyone can be protected, whether its 1 month, 6 months a year or never!
Dude what do you think we are not going tl go back to normal until this is gone? i got a bridge to sell you if you believe that..
What about players and coaches? Do we say "screw em", we don't care if they are safe or not! We just need our sports! The "right" decision is no sports until Everyone can be protected, whether its 1 month, 6 months a year or never!
Some said that for elderly and people with underlying conditions, so im sure people feel the same about athletes
The virus is so easily communicated that the players in any of the major sports will infect each other during practice, in the locker rooms, traveling on a plane, or in a game. Then they will take the virus back home to their families, friends and communities where they can and will infect others before they show symptoms.
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
On his daily press briefing just now
@GavinNewsom
tells me flatly re #NFL starting season on time w/fans in stands in the CA stadiums: "I’m not anticipating that happening in this state."
@AdamSchefter
The virus is so easily communicated that the players in any of the major sports will infect each other during practice, in the locker rooms, traveling on a plane, or in a game. Then they will take the virus back home to their families, friends and communities where they can and will infect others before they show symptoms.
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
When it comes to players I'm sure they can stay on top of it with testing. They are in fact part of the important people out there that seem to be able to get tested whenever they need to. Us normies left to fend for ourselves however shouldn't be going out playing pick up games.
The other thing to take into consideration with the players is, they are in peak physical condition. The disease seems to attack the lungs of people with prior conditions and not in great shape. Yes, it does in fact kill people that are in peak condition, but the level is much much lower. And I'm sure the leagues can afford to have the top of the line support for any players that may contract the disease. If the government gets on board with them playing then they should provide the support needed to help keep the players safe.
We are talking about a couple thousand of the most physically fit people, and multi millionaires in the world. I think they would be safe playing with the right precautions.
The overall fear of sporting events is the crowd size and not the players on the court. And I don't mean the players don't matter. The thing they are trying to avoid is mass gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people across the country with sweaty, drunk, screaming fans, slapping high fives, spitting beer and saliva as they scream, and flinging sweat from thrashing around while cheering. Then those hundreds of thousand of people across the nation leave the event and their cars go in 50 different directions in the vicinity of the stadiums. Often times into surrounding states with different responses and requirements for the virus. That is the "major" problem with sporting events.
Yeah good luck with starting the Fall sports on reg sched
Millions of people probably have had it or currently have it without even knowing it.. If there is a 2nd surge it will not spread like it is now, not even close because because there will be a lot less people for it to spread to..
For example new york it will not spread as wuickly or barely at all because it is getting hit hard right now..
This isnt going to come back and everyone is going to get it again.
I think most people are good at following the 'Stay Home' directive
for awhile. For awhile. But if we're still told to remain at home in like July...people are going to lose it. That's not a joke either. People will really lose their minds. A nation of Jack Torrances.
for awhile. For awhile. But if we're still told to remain at home in like July...people are going to lose it. That's not a joke either. People will really lose their minds. A nation of Jack Torrances.
Lose minds, lose their houses, lose their cars, lose a lot of things..
How long do you think people will not collect rent?
The resulting cascade effect shut down all sports.
If the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. returns in June and a player tests positive, that league will invariably shut down again.
Forget empty arena talk. Leagues would need to sequester players, coaches, staffs and then test to ensure no confirmed cases AND then hope they never confirm a case.
Millions of people probably have had it or currently have it without even knowing it.. If there is a 2nd surge it will not spread like it is now, not even close because because there will be a lot less people for it to spread to..
For example new york it will not spread as wuickly or barely at all because it is getting hit hard right now..
This isnt going to come back and everyone is going to get it again.
The virus is so easily communicated that the players in any of the major sports will infect each other during practice, in the locker rooms, traveling on a plane, or in a game. Then they will take the virus back home to their families, friends and communities where they can and will infect others before they show symptoms.
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
When it comes to players I'm sure they can stay on top of it with testing. They are in fact part of the important people out there that seem to be able to get tested whenever they need to. Us normies left to fend for ourselves however shouldn't be going out playing pick up games.
The other thing to take into consideration with the players is, they are in peak physical condition. The disease seems to attack the lungs of people with prior conditions and not in great shape. Yes, it does in fact kill people that are in peak condition, but the level is much much lower. And I'm sure the leagues can afford to have the top of the line support for any players that may contract the disease. If the government gets on board with them playing then they should provide the support needed to help keep the players safe.
We are talking about a couple thousand of the most physically fit people, and multi millionaires in the world. I think they would be safe playing with the right precautions.
The overall fear of sporting events is the crowd size and not the players on the court. And I don't mean the players don't matter. The thing they are trying to avoid is mass gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people across the country with sweaty, drunk, screaming fans, slapping high fives, spitting beer and saliva as they scream, and flinging sweat from thrashing around while cheering. Then those hundreds of thousand of people across the nation leave the event and their cars go in 50 different directions in the vicinity of the stadiums. Often times into surrounding states with different responses and requirements for the virus. That is the "major" problem with sporting events.
Here's two important things.
1. All it takes is ONE weekend of games with ONE infected person on the field, in the locker room, or encountering someone during transit, and you are likely looking at 90% of the entire team, and the opposing team, and their respective families to spread the virus. It's not far-fetched to state every NFL game in week 1 has one infected and undetected host participating. Even if you test up until gameday morning, if someone gets it between the morning and on the way to the stadium somehow, your morning test is worthless, and it would be too late to stop it, as the game would go on with no detections that morning.
Now, it's weeks 2 and 3. Some players and others infected from each game will be getting sick during those next 14 days after the game, not showing any symptoms yet, some not noticing being sick at all, and inevitably there will be deaths (baring a vaccine or potential cure, but both of those have far off timelines with little hope for a quick turnaround by the global health and science communities).
Based on your life experience to this point in the litigious (and in such a theoretical case, justified) USA, what happens in the following weeks or months? How many dead players, coaches, staff, family, or those infected multiple levels down the tree via virus tracing back to that NFL game will occur (civil courts only require 'more likely than not' as grounds for winning the case).
If it stays this virulent or even near this bad up until then, you're likely talking about a minimum of 100 dead people due to one week of games, plus too many players would be sick or scared to show up for weeks 2 and 3 and so on, so games would be cancelled. How do you even host playoffs if most of the teams have different amounts of games played? The amount of wrongful death lawsuits will likely destroy the NFL even with their huge insurance policies. Even if everything is covered under a hugely expensive and expansive liability policy, who the hell is going to insure the NFL for future games? Also, not an insurance expert, but a pandemic is likely considered as an "act of god" and not covered under the policy, but it wouldn't really matter either way.
But wait, there's more. On the hugely optimistic side (and this is even without fans), it just takes one dude for every two teams each and every week of the season for the league's doomsday scenario to play out.
2. Per the quote from California's governor above, he already said there won't be games in September in Cal. stadiums that include fans. Again, barring a mirculous vaccine or cure, I honestly don't see this dying out by September for the scientific community to advise any governor of risking so many lives (about 200 people per game with all staff of both teams and camera crew, refs, etc.?), based on exactly what I stated in point #1. It's not just about the healthy players, but their respective families with co-morbidities, young children, and perhaps those in utero too (I haven't read anything on that topic).
I hate this shit more than anything. I waited the entire offseason for Formula 1 to begin and the first race was cancelled literally two days prior to the race in Australia. We're now about six races cancelled so far, it's not looking good for that season either, because you're throwing in 22 different countries and their respective governments/travel bans/emergency orders. I'm hoping there's a chance at just starting next season in early 2021, but that possibility grows less likely by the day.
For sure, this will be one of the most infamous times in human history due to the technology and globalization of the planet when compared to prior pandemics throughout history.
I really don’t think this will happen. It seems so overwhelmingly impossible to think of people gathering in a few months right now but this has all happened so fast. I honestly believe it will turn the other way just as fast at some point. A lot is going to ride on antibody testing imo.
This is serious.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
Great and fuck them.
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Vince McMahon and the NASCAR commissioner are included.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
yes, it's this weekend, will be interesting to see if it is canceled, last I read it was still on.
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growing belief is that there will be no sports until a vaccine is developed, although a full proof treatment might make playing without fans possible. But even playing with such a treatment is risky, especially given the transmissibility of the disease, and the expectation of a second wave in the fall.
I doubt that. Why stop at sports then? Why not everything else non essential?
I agree it's a bit premature. We'll know more by Memorial Day, but the situation is dire right now. I'm not sure people will want to incur the risk.
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Vince McMahon and the NASCAR commissioner are included.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
yes, it's this weekend, will be interesting to see if it is canceled, last I read it was still on.
Its been taped and will be on 2 nights, tonight and 2morrow
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Vince McMahon and the NASCAR commissioner are included.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
yes, it's this weekend, will be interesting to see if it is canceled, last I read it was still on.
matches are already taped
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Vince McMahon and the NASCAR commissioner are included.
This is serious.
Isn’t Wrestle mania this weekend? Vince gonna cxl it?
yes, it's this weekend, will be interesting to see if it is canceled, last I read it was still on.
It was all recorded 2 weeks ago in their Performance Center & a separate facility w/o any fans,so it's already to go,it won't be canceled. It's on tonight & tomorrow!
I agree. They will figure something out, there’s many ways they can make it work. Most of the solutions will be no fans, and that’s fine for a while.
The medical aspect of this needs to take priority unfortunately. I want sports back badly but I don’t see it being realistic for a while.
The medical aspect of this needs to take priority unfortunately. I want sports back badly but I don’t see it being realistic for a while.
do you think the country is going to be shutdown for months and months? it is not going to happen..
i do think nba and nhl will cancel but people saying no soirts until 2021 is crazy..
there is going to come a point where we are just going to have start our lives back up and learn to live with this in the universe..
ok so we shutdown for 12 to 18 months until a vaccine is created, what is going to do more damage the virus or being shutdown for months?.
I am not even saying this is not serious, it is very serious, and j am not even saying ok time to go back to normal is now or maybe even a month from now, but saying we have to wait for a vaccine is nkt going to happen
They postponed, didn’t cancel yet.
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I saw a post on the Golf Channel’s Facebook page that rumors are the PGA will resume in June and they’ll get all 4 majors in. The PGA Championship being the first one. Ending with the Masters the 2nd week in November.
I think you can ply golf and keep social distance an precautions.
Basketball is at the other end of the spectrum (right next to wrestling).
Bob Papa said the other day on his show a PGA tour exec told him that there is no way they can financially hold a tour event without the revenue they get from crowd attendance
So what is your solution? If enough people have antibodies it will eventually die off..
Secondly if a second surge were to hapoen it would not be nearly as bad because we would be much better oreoared for it plus the hardest hit areas like new york and new jersey would not surge because the virus would not spread as easily...
Its an option. The leagues should modify a bunch of fields and stadiums to remove the stands, or how hard is it to create a simple baseball field?
Well, Humans aren't really in control of a whole lot of anything on this planet. I am of the crowd that thinks if we go too far in trying to "control" this disease, we're going to do more damage than good.
I see the current plan of self isolation lasting until Memorial Day. If the country is told "you know, we gotta keep doing this for another x amount of months..." people are going to say "f it" and go back to work, and out to dinner, etc...
You cannot keep the country on lock down for months and months. This has nothing to do with the Fucking stock market, but people need to work and bring in income ,states and local municipalities need to collect Taxes to function.
With the so called stimulus we will be ok for two months but after that the Government cant just keep printing money,
Start Incrementality with the healthiest maybe ages 19 -40 keep the people most at risk under quarantine.
And prepare to see a lot of empty seat when they return & if people are allowed to attend the events.
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The President has repeatedly suggested reopening the economy. This might be about how to reopen, when and under what circumstances.
I agree. They will figure something out, there’s many ways they can make it work. Most of the solutions will be no fans, and that’s fine for a while.
Exactly. I'd be happy watching sports with no fans for a period of time. I'd be happy watching anything besides the paint dry in my home office. This is brutal. Let's start working towards some sort of normalcy.
For players - you take the abbot test 2 hours before every game. If a player tests positive they cannot play. You have stipulations in place if a whole team has to go on quarantine and forfeiture processes etc.
You have every player take an antibody test as well so you know who has been exposed already and who hasn’t and you take necessary precautions.
For stadiums you essentially need to start to get ahead of this thing and see where new infections are come June 1 and more importantly start to administer mass antibody testing so that we have an understanding for who (likely) has immunity until a vaccine is in play. Once you start to have that number you can evaluate second surges and the like.
Link - ( New Window )
Dude what do you think we are not going tl go back to normal until this is gone? i got a bridge to sell you if you believe that..
Some said that for elderly and people with underlying conditions, so im sure people feel the same about athletes
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
@GavinNewsom
tells me flatly re #NFL starting season on time w/fans in stands in the CA stadiums: "I’m not anticipating that happening in this state."
@AdamSchefter
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
When it comes to players I'm sure they can stay on top of it with testing. They are in fact part of the important people out there that seem to be able to get tested whenever they need to. Us normies left to fend for ourselves however shouldn't be going out playing pick up games.
The other thing to take into consideration with the players is, they are in peak physical condition. The disease seems to attack the lungs of people with prior conditions and not in great shape. Yes, it does in fact kill people that are in peak condition, but the level is much much lower. And I'm sure the leagues can afford to have the top of the line support for any players that may contract the disease. If the government gets on board with them playing then they should provide the support needed to help keep the players safe.
We are talking about a couple thousand of the most physically fit people, and multi millionaires in the world. I think they would be safe playing with the right precautions.
The overall fear of sporting events is the crowd size and not the players on the court. And I don't mean the players don't matter. The thing they are trying to avoid is mass gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people across the country with sweaty, drunk, screaming fans, slapping high fives, spitting beer and saliva as they scream, and flinging sweat from thrashing around while cheering. Then those hundreds of thousand of people across the nation leave the event and their cars go in 50 different directions in the vicinity of the stadiums. Often times into surrounding states with different responses and requirements for the virus. That is the "major" problem with sporting events.
For example new york it will not spread as wuickly or barely at all because it is getting hit hard right now..
This isnt going to come back and everyone is going to get it again.
Why would they need to remove stands, let alone build new fields to play in?
Lose minds, lose their houses, lose their cars, lose a lot of things..
How long do you think people will not collect rent?
If the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. returns in June and a player tests positive, that league will invariably shut down again.
Forget empty arena talk. Leagues would need to sequester players, coaches, staffs and then test to ensure no confirmed cases AND then hope they never confirm a case.
For example new york it will not spread as wuickly or barely at all because it is getting hit hard right now..
This isnt going to come back and everyone is going to get it again.
You need to read about the Spanish Flu.
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The virus is so easily communicated that the players in any of the major sports will infect each other during practice, in the locker rooms, traveling on a plane, or in a game. Then they will take the virus back home to their families, friends and communities where they can and will infect others before they show symptoms.
They may try to play games, especially under pressure from the owners, etc., but I don't think it is going to work out.
What happens if some of the key players (QB, OL, defensive backs) get sick during pre-season and during the season?
Didn't the Chinese Basketball Association (or South Korean?) try to play games but it didn't work out?
It really sucks, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how any of the professional leagues have significant seasons before a vaccine is developed.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Certainly not this summer.
When it comes to players I'm sure they can stay on top of it with testing. They are in fact part of the important people out there that seem to be able to get tested whenever they need to. Us normies left to fend for ourselves however shouldn't be going out playing pick up games.
The other thing to take into consideration with the players is, they are in peak physical condition. The disease seems to attack the lungs of people with prior conditions and not in great shape. Yes, it does in fact kill people that are in peak condition, but the level is much much lower. And I'm sure the leagues can afford to have the top of the line support for any players that may contract the disease. If the government gets on board with them playing then they should provide the support needed to help keep the players safe.
We are talking about a couple thousand of the most physically fit people, and multi millionaires in the world. I think they would be safe playing with the right precautions.
The overall fear of sporting events is the crowd size and not the players on the court. And I don't mean the players don't matter. The thing they are trying to avoid is mass gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people across the country with sweaty, drunk, screaming fans, slapping high fives, spitting beer and saliva as they scream, and flinging sweat from thrashing around while cheering. Then those hundreds of thousand of people across the nation leave the event and their cars go in 50 different directions in the vicinity of the stadiums. Often times into surrounding states with different responses and requirements for the virus. That is the "major" problem with sporting events.
Here's two important things.
1. All it takes is ONE weekend of games with ONE infected person on the field, in the locker room, or encountering someone during transit, and you are likely looking at 90% of the entire team, and the opposing team, and their respective families to spread the virus. It's not far-fetched to state every NFL game in week 1 has one infected and undetected host participating. Even if you test up until gameday morning, if someone gets it between the morning and on the way to the stadium somehow, your morning test is worthless, and it would be too late to stop it, as the game would go on with no detections that morning.
Now, it's weeks 2 and 3. Some players and others infected from each game will be getting sick during those next 14 days after the game, not showing any symptoms yet, some not noticing being sick at all, and inevitably there will be deaths (baring a vaccine or potential cure, but both of those have far off timelines with little hope for a quick turnaround by the global health and science communities).
Based on your life experience to this point in the litigious (and in such a theoretical case, justified) USA, what happens in the following weeks or months? How many dead players, coaches, staff, family, or those infected multiple levels down the tree via virus tracing back to that NFL game will occur (civil courts only require 'more likely than not' as grounds for winning the case).
If it stays this virulent or even near this bad up until then, you're likely talking about a minimum of 100 dead people due to one week of games, plus too many players would be sick or scared to show up for weeks 2 and 3 and so on, so games would be cancelled. How do you even host playoffs if most of the teams have different amounts of games played? The amount of wrongful death lawsuits will likely destroy the NFL even with their huge insurance policies. Even if everything is covered under a hugely expensive and expansive liability policy, who the hell is going to insure the NFL for future games? Also, not an insurance expert, but a pandemic is likely considered as an "act of god" and not covered under the policy, but it wouldn't really matter either way.
But wait, there's more. On the hugely optimistic side (and this is even without fans), it just takes one dude for every two teams each and every week of the season for the league's doomsday scenario to play out.
2. Per the quote from California's governor above, he already said there won't be games in September in Cal. stadiums that include fans. Again, barring a mirculous vaccine or cure, I honestly don't see this dying out by September for the scientific community to advise any governor of risking so many lives (about 200 people per game with all staff of both teams and camera crew, refs, etc.?), based on exactly what I stated in point #1. It's not just about the healthy players, but their respective families with co-morbidities, young children, and perhaps those in utero too (I haven't read anything on that topic).
I hate this shit more than anything. I waited the entire offseason for Formula 1 to begin and the first race was cancelled literally two days prior to the race in Australia. We're now about six races cancelled so far, it's not looking good for that season either, because you're throwing in 22 different countries and their respective governments/travel bans/emergency orders. I'm hoping there's a chance at just starting next season in early 2021, but that possibility grows less likely by the day.
For sure, this will be one of the most infamous times in human history due to the technology and globalization of the planet when compared to prior pandemics throughout history.
Be safe ya'll.