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What is your surprise draft prediction for the Giants?

AcidTest : 4/4/2020 11:10 am
What would the Giants do that would really surprise you on draft day?

(1) Pick anything you want.
(2) You can change your mind as we get closer to the draft.
(3) You do not have to agree with your prediction.

Here is mine:

Burrow and Young go #1 and #2 as predicted. Miami trades up with Detroit, but for Herbert, not Tua. The Giants aren't offered enough to trade down. Gettleman decides to stick to his board and picks his BPA: Derrick Brown. BBI melts down. As the first round progresses, the Giants trade #36, Tomlinson, and Engram as a package to trade back into the first round, and take either Austin Jackson or Josh Jones.

I do not want to pick Brown at #4. I'd rather take Simmons, who I would only consider if I could not trade down. But Brown can play in multiple fronts, is relentless, and has unquestioned character. I could absolutely see him being the pick.
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ryanmkeane : 4/4/2020 11:17 am : link
Derrick Brown
Derrick Brown  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/4/2020 11:20 am : link
It wouldn’t surprise me, but it would surprise a lot of people.

I think it would be a terrible pick (not a terrible player, but terrible for this team) but I can 100% see Gettleman doing it.
Brown is an excellent player,but for a team that traded (SMH) for  
TheMick7 : 4/4/2020 11:26 am : link
Williams & franchised him,spent a 1st on Lawrence last year,Tomlinson,Hill & McIntosh in 2018,this would be grounds for Gettleman's firing! Gotta be OT or Simmons!
Trading up to 1 for Chase Young  
The_Boss : 4/4/2020 11:26 am : link
And drafting Brown, not because he’s a bad player, but how does he fit along a crowded, albeit overrated, DL?
RE: Trading up to 1 for Chase Young  
The_Boss : 4/4/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14859018 The_Boss said:
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And drafting Brown, not because he’s a bad player, but how does he fit along a crowded, albeit overrated, DL?


OR drafting Brown.
Getting it perfect.....  
George from PA : 4/4/2020 11:29 am : link
Have draft go ideally for the Giants.....abling to get OTs, Center, WR, FS and Edge rusher
If they go bpa  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/4/2020 11:33 am : link
I'd rather have Okudah than Brown.
RE: If they go bpa  
The_Boss : 4/4/2020 11:35 am : link
In comment 14859026 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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I'd rather have Okudah than Brown.


Agree.
Brown  
JonC : 4/4/2020 11:39 am : link
Giants apparently love him. I wouldn't pick him, he's sun dial slow.
I doubt it would happen  
3rdnlong : 4/4/2020 11:42 am : link
But going Jeudy wouldn’t shock me.
Or trading down and  
3rdnlong : 4/4/2020 11:44 am : link
Drafting K'Lavon Chaisson
RE: Brown  
Jay on the Island : 4/4/2020 11:51 am : link
In comment 14859039 JonC said:
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Giants apparently love him. I wouldn't pick him, he's sun dial slow.

Please tell me he’s not going to be the pick. It’s not that he’s a bad prospect but with Leonard Williams, Dexter Lawrence, Dalvin Tomlinson, Austin Johnson, BJ Hill, and McIntosh on board already it would be a bad decision to take another DL with Simmons, Okudah, and all the OT’s on the board.
The Giants trade down from #36  
Torrag : 4/4/2020 11:52 am : link
...to Draft Cushenberry in Round 2.
At #36 NYG draft S Jeremy Chinn  
No Where Man : 4/4/2020 12:01 pm : link
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Dalvin Tomlinson and Evan Engram both get traded.  
Klaatu : 4/4/2020 12:06 pm : link
Tomlinson for a player, Engram for a pick.
Brown..Total shock and disapointment.  
Blue21 : 4/4/2020 12:07 pm : link
Please no.
Giants draft surprise  
OBJRoyal : 4/4/2020 12:27 pm : link
Would be the call coming in, and its announced that Cee Dee Lamb or Jerry Jeudy is the pick
If you go by pick independent of each other  
DonnieD89 : 4/4/2020 12:34 pm : link
Brown at #4
Tee Higgins at #36
RE: Giants draft surprise  
The_Boss : 4/4/2020 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14859106 OBJRoyal said:
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Would be the call coming in, and its announced that Cee Dee Lamb or Jerry Jeudy is the pick


I personally think one or both of those are better than the top graded OT.
Giants trade down, gathering a few extra early picks  
LBH15 : 4/4/2020 12:44 pm : link
and use them to largely invest in the Offensive Line.

This logical approach would be surprising.


RE: Brown..Total shock and disapointment.  
jnoble : 4/4/2020 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14859079 Blue21 said:
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Please no.

Why? It's not liking drafting players in the past with the last name Brown has ever...
Oh. Right.
RE: RE: Giants draft surprise  
OBJRoyal : 4/4/2020 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14859118 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14859106 OBJRoyal said:


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Would be the call coming in, and its announced that Cee Dee Lamb or Jerry Jeudy is the pick



I personally think one or both of those are better than the top graded OT.


I dont disagree...
Picking Brown would be a big surprise at #4. Not a big surprise if  
Ivan15 : 4/4/2020 1:02 pm : link
He was picked after A trade down to 9-12. Giants don’t need another DT right now.

Young falling to #4 would be a surprise but if it happens, he should be the pick.

If an OT is the pick at #4 with Simmons or Okudah still available, that would be a surprise to me but the Giants may see more value for an OT.
Trade # 4 for Yannick  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/4/2020 1:16 pm : link
and a later pick.
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christian : 4/4/2020 1:19 pm : link
A surprise player drops and the Giants don't trade out, select Wirfs.
Giants Don't Draft an OL in the First Two Rounds  
Jim in Tampa : 4/4/2020 2:26 pm : link
They choose the top defensive player available (probably Simmons, but Okuduh if Simmons is gone or Young if both the 'Skins and the Lions are stupid).

Then the Giants play to the strength of the draft and take a WR as one of Mims, Higgins or Justin Jefferson falls to the top of RD-2.

Other than the QBs (which the Giants don't need) the four defensive players are the top ones in the draft. They should NOT reach for an OT just based on need, as they have needs at a number of positions.

Also, I'm sure that some are thinking that the Giants can get a WR in Rds 3-7. But the reality is that they can only get a WR with true #1 potential in the top 36 spots.
Giants are not taking Brown  
bc4life : 4/4/2020 2:39 pm : link
No way, no how. Regardless of the love. If they took him it would be incredibly stupid. When they traded for Williams they had already lost 6 games. They could have seen they were going to struggle to even finish .500 - why the hell would you trade for Williams who you would then have to sign, then turn aorund a draft another tackle in Round 1, after you just drafted 1 in Round 1 the previous year?

If I had to pick pick a surprise pick - they take the top WR in the draft.
RE: Trade # 4 for Yannick  
Diver_Down : 4/4/2020 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14859160 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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and a later pick.


Dammit, you took mine. Swap pick #4/#9 - we get Yannick and our OT.
Lots of posters here love to stress BPA  
ryanmkeane : 4/4/2020 2:51 pm : link
well to me Brown would be BPA. He might end up being the best defensive player from this draft
I can’t comprehend, and maybe it’s just smoke(maybe not)  
barens : 4/4/2020 2:53 pm : link
How people/scouts have Brown rated higher than some of the offensive tackles in this draft. Is Brown that explosive of a player? I think OT is a very hard position to grade, because it’s so much easier to make a mistake. Especially in today’s NFL, you’re never going to find the perfect OT.

But Brown, are we talking about greatness here?
Trading down a place or two from 4 and picking up an extra pick.  
Ira : 4/4/2020 2:56 pm : link
Then use that extra pick to trade up from 36 into the 1st round. The targets - Josh Jones or Denzel Mims.
Chase Young falls to 4...  
Sean : 4/4/2020 2:56 pm : link
but the Giants draft Wirfs, BBI meltdown.
I take that back  
bc4life : 4/4/2020 3:08 pm : link
No way are they taking a Wr at 4.
RE: Giants are not taking Brown  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/4/2020 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14859239 bc4life said:
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No way, no how. Regardless of the love. If they took him it would be incredibly stupid. When they traded for Williams they had already lost 6 games. They could have seen they were going to struggle to even finish .500 - why the hell would you trade for Williams who you would then have to sign, then turn aorund a draft another tackle in Round 1, after you just drafted 1 in Round 1 the previous year?


I agree it would be stupid. It would be as stupid as having a terrible OL, and after drafting a RB and QB high in the first round, using two picks to trade up into the first round... to draft a CB, especially after already burning a 3rd rounder to draft a CB in the supplemental draft.
barens  
ryanmkeane : 4/4/2020 3:38 pm : link
Brown has greatness in him. Dude has a relentless motor and is extremely athletic for being 6’5 326. I think his ceiling is a better Fletcher Cox.
We aren’t winning the SB this year  
ryanmkeane : 4/4/2020 3:43 pm : link
if they think Brown is far and away the best player available when they are up at 4, I would take him. Brown and Lawrence in the middle together is frightening. There will be OL available in round 2.
I would be shocked  
Bones : 4/4/2020 3:50 pm : link
If we took Simmons or one of the OT's because that is what everyone expects them to do.
Brown just makes no sense  
bc4life : 4/4/2020 3:56 pm : link
Williams, Lawrence, and we just signed Johnson.

Gettleman has drafted pretty well so far. I don't him making a dumb move like that.
Colin@gbn made a pretty good case for taking a WR @ 4  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/4/2020 4:32 pm : link
so it's not entirely out of the question -- I really like Cee Dee
I think they take Simmons at 4.  
Giant John : 4/4/2020 4:57 pm : link
Then trade back into the first yo get their tackle. That’s what I’d be thinking about doing.
Brown is a pure BPA pick  
JonC : 4/4/2020 5:21 pm : link
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Chase Young  
Hades07 : 4/4/2020 5:25 pm : link
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No OL in first 3 rounds  
adamg : 4/4/2020 5:28 pm : link
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Burrow first, Young second  
Biteymax22 : 4/4/2020 5:36 pm : link
Detroit trades out and Tua goes 3. Giants don’t take Oline, Simmons or Brown, they take Okudah.
RE: Colin@gbn made a pretty good case for taking a WR @ 4  
LBH15 : 4/4/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14859307 gidiefor said:
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so it's not entirely out of the question -- I really like Cee Dee


And what was the case he made...stretch the defense or the like?
RE: Giants Don't Draft an OL in the First Two Rounds  
M.S. : 4/4/2020 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14859235 Jim in Tampa said:
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They choose the top defensive player available (probably Simmons, but Okuduh if Simmons is gone or Young if both the 'Skins and the Lions are stupid).

Then the Giants play to the strength of the draft and take a WR as one of Mims, Higgins or Justin Jefferson falls to the top of RD-2.

Other than the QBs (which the Giants don't need) the four defensive players are the top ones in the draft. They should NOT reach for an OT just based on need, as they have needs at a number of positions.

Also, I'm sure that some are thinking that the Giants can get a WR in Rds 3-7. But the reality is that they can only get a WR with true #1 potential in the top 36 spots.

I like your thinking. And would love this scenario. But you could knock me over with a feather if Justin Jefferson is still on the Board at 36. I wouldn't even wait for the Commish to say the Giants are on the clock.
RE: Colin@gbn made a pretty good case for taking a WR @ 4  
SGMen : 4/4/2020 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14859307 gidiefor said:
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so it's not entirely out of the question -- I really like Cee Dee
BPA at #4 if they can't trade down. It could very well be Cee Dee!
the biggest surprise  
BigBlueCane : 4/4/2020 8:17 pm : link
will be if they trade out of the #4 spot.
I'll be surprised if the pick isn't  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/4/2020 8:29 pm : link
Simmons, assuming he's there.
RE: Brown is a pure BPA pick  
section125 : 4/4/2020 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14859328 JonC said:
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FWIW, you and Sy say the same thing...Would not be surprised to see Sy rate him between 87-89...

If they take Brown, Williams is let go. He becomes redundant at $13 mill per.
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