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Matt Miller: Buzz building Giants picking Wirfs #4 overall

CromartiesKid21 : 4/4/2020 5:44 pm
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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller reports that there is a "quiet buzz building" that the New York Giants could select Iowa T Tristan Wirfs with the No. 4 overall pick.
At this juncture, Miller's intel indicates that Clemson's Isaiah Simmons may have the inside track to land with the Giants. But watch out for Wirfs. Writes the evaluator, "It's notable that around this time last year, the talk of Daniel Jones to the Giants heated up... " Miller notes that the difference this time around, of course, is that both Simmons and Wirfs are exceedingly logical picks for New York. Can't really go wrong either way.

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Idiots  
PaulN : 4/5/2020 12:49 pm : link
Like this are telling us who Giants should draft.
RE: RE: Nonsense Wirfs is a good track athlete who played  
TMS : 4/6/2020 1:36 am : link
In comment 14859827 Gatorade Dunk said:
[quote] In comment 14859808 TMS said:


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7 games at guard in college and never played OT. We are not taking a project like that with the 4th pick in the draft. We have to get starters and win games or we will have a new GM next year. Maybe Garrett. Might be why we bought him here as HC this year. DG knows this I AM SURE.


Never played OT?

Can you please go back to eating styrofoam peanuts for lunch and stop posting? [/quote. Why dont you you GF your self. and stop posting nonsense. We are not drafting this guy this guy at #4. period.
RE: He’s the least preferred OT of mine because many think he’s an OG.  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/6/2020 3:51 am : link
In comment 14859349 The_Boss said:
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So naturally Dave will choose him.


Join the club, buddy. Last year Jones was the least favorite QB for many here, including me!
Wirfs is boy wonder in shorts, but Thomas and Wills  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/6/2020 4:01 am : link
both have considerably better game tape.

And if you really want to run the ball, it's Thomas all day.

Note his agility #s (3-cone and short shuffle) were better than Wirfs, despite Wirfs' superior "athleticism" leaping and sprinting.

I favor Thomas or Wills, and think the Wirfs rumbling is subterfuge.
RE: He’s the least preferred OT of mine because many think he’s an OG.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/6/2020 6:37 am : link
In comment 14859349 The_Boss said:
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So naturally Dave will choose him.


Because DG hates BBIers and will do all he can to spite them..
Wait what?  
UGADawgs7 : 4/6/2020 7:00 am : link
Didn’t Miller say Simmons 100% at 4?
Also Wills over Wirfs easily imo I’d go Wills, Thomas, Wirfs, Becton as my ranks but I’m not a scout. Game tape it seems like Wirfs might end up moving to Guard.
RE: RE: RE: Nonsense Wirfs is a good track athlete who played  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/6/2020 7:05 am : link
In comment 14860336 TMS said:
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In comment 14859827 Gatorade Dunk said:
[quote] In comment 14859808 TMS said:


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7 games at guard in college and never played OT. We are not taking a project like that with the 4th pick in the draft. We have to get starters and win games or we will have a new GM next year. Maybe Garrett. Might be why we bought him here as HC this year. DG knows this I AM SURE.


Never played OT?

Can you please go back to eating styrofoam peanuts for lunch and stop posting? [/quote. Why dont you you GF your self. and stop posting nonsense. We are not drafting this guy this guy at #4. period.

You're getting close to jtgiants territory on this. Chances are we won't pick him at #4, but that also applies - statistically speaking - to every single draft prospect. The odds for the field will always far exceed the odds for any one prospect at any one draft slot. But Wirfs is almost certainly in consideration at #4.

I want to read more about how Wirfs has never played OT. Can you expand on that while I'm effing myself? Thanks in advance.
Wirfs  
LBH15 : 4/6/2020 8:09 am : link
Stats: Three-year starter for the Hawkeyes and the first true freshman to start at offensive tackle under current head coach Kirk Ferentz, according to Hawkeyesports.com.

Wirfs started all 13 games in 2019, 10 at right tackle and three at left. He was named the Rimington-Pace Offensive Lineman of the Year in the Big Ten, earned First-Team All-American honors by multiple outlets and was an All-Big Ten selection his junior year.
GD - you're a better poster than this.  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/6/2020 8:13 am : link
Let's discuss the merits of the top tackles after Sy proffers his opinions of them.
RE: GD - you're a better poster than this.  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/6/2020 8:18 am : link
In comment 14860381 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Let's discuss the merits of the top tackles after Sy proffers his opinions of them.

I understand what you mean, Lou. But it annoys me when people speak in certainties, like "DG knows this I AM SURE" when they don't even know what position a prospect played.

TMS in particular has a habit of posting things as though they're facts when they're anything but. Like I said before, very jtgiants-esque.
We know they love Wirfs  
JonC : 4/6/2020 9:02 am : link
but I'd be surprised if he's the pick at #4. RT prospect who might be better suited at OG is a scary gamble given the defender prospects who could be there at #4.
RE: We know they love Wirfs  
Sean : 4/6/2020 9:07 am : link
In comment 14860429 JonC said:
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but I'd be surprised if he's the pick at #4. RT prospect who might be better suited at OG is a scary gamble given the defender prospects who could be there at #4.


Yup. We just lived it with Flowers.
I like Wirfs, but I think taking him at 4  
Section331 : 4/6/2020 9:14 am : link
is a mistake. Trade down a couple of spots and pick up another 2nd rounder. It's a good OT class, trade down and take the one remaining that you like best.
Skins took Scherff at #5 and even though he didn't stick at tackle  
shyster : 4/6/2020 10:20 am : link
they made the right choice, when you look at how the remainder of that year's top ten has ended up.

You have to pick from the choices that are there, which may not be ideal or as good as the choices at the same pick in other drafts.

As for the Flowers comparison, there was nothing that stood out about Flowers' combine, except his bench press. Wirfs is a combine star.

Doesn't mean Wirfs will be an NFL success but, athletically speaking, he's not Flowers, at all.

Everybody wants the trade down but it may not be on the table.
RE: Wirfs is boy wonder in shorts, but Thomas and Wills  
Strahan91 : 4/6/2020 10:29 am : link
In comment 14860340 BlueLou'sBack said:
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both have considerably better game tape.

And if you really want to run the ball, it's Thomas all day.

Note his agility #s (3-cone and short shuffle) were better than Wirfs, despite Wirfs' superior "athleticism" leaping and sprinting.

I favor Thomas or Wills, and think the Wirfs rumbling is subterfuge.

Who the better prospect is is debatable but Wirfs is definitely the better athlete. You're talking about a .02 difference in the short shuffle and a .07 difference in the 3 cone. Wirfs demolished him in every other combine result.
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